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Terminator (1984) - Foreign versions! (now just Italian) (* unfinished project *) — Page 4

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Any of you guys with better eyes than mine (I'm colorblind) care to tell me if there's anything wrong with this picture? [click to enlarge]

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What type of input are you looking for, Leo?

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I just want to know if there's anything wrong with the colour. It looks alright to me, but I'm colorblind.

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Leonardo said:

Any of you guys with better eyes than mine (I'm colorblind) care to tell me if there's anything wrong with this picture? [click to enlarge]

 Yeah, there some things that seem odd, at the Moment I have not the time to point them out, I'll try to get the time this evening.

"I kill Gandalf." - Igor, Dork Tower

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So, english is not my native language, but I'll try to be as precise and clear, as I can describe the things not cortrect with the image. :)

1.: Just above the area you overlayed the transition is noticable, because the color of the inserted part is not as blue as the rest. The inserted Image is a shot more grey than blue. After noticing that the rest is also noticable not as blueish.

2.: The radiation of the lightbeam also indicates left and right, where the inserted part ends. first of all the center part of the beam seems a bit smaller, also the radiation is a bit mor violet, while the beam in the outer parts is just a tune more pink.

The beam seems to be a bit more sharper in the inserted part.

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I played a bit with GIMPs Color/Satuation setters, to make the areas not matching visible.

Maybe that helps. (I do not know, because I have no experience how color blindness works.)

"I kill Gandalf." - Igor, Dork Tower

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Thank you for that, your image helps!

I'll see what I can do to fix that.

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Little update, as I mentioned two pages ago, a very kind person who goes by the name of Yautja is making the font for this reconstruction. He gave me a w.i.p. version of it, and five minutes ago I quickly whipped up this little mockup.

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z192/luckydog21/LAITATEST_zpsuxhbn1ak.png~original

For reference, here's what the original looked like:

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z192/luckydog21/Terminator%20ITA/Composizione%205%200-01-01-16_zpsoiugnrrh.png~original

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Really looks great.

Even if the font on the reference Image seem a bit more heavy. But this might just occur because of the image quality and such.

Edit: I notice the color difference in the reinserted "clean" part of the image. Seem to be a slight notch lesser bluish/greenish than the rest.

"I kill Gandalf." - Igor, Dork Tower

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MrBrown said:

Really looks great.

Even if the font on the reference Image seem a bit more heavy. But this might just occur because of the image quality and such.

Yes, I must've messed up somewhere, but I just wanted test it, to see how it would look. I'll fix it.

Edit: I notice the color difference in the reinserted "clean" part of the image. Seem to be a slight notch lesser bluish/greenish than the rest.

 Yeah, about that. Do you have any suggestions? I've seen people messing around in Matlab lately, to automatically color match different sources, but I know nothing about the program. Methinks I should ask around.

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Leonardo said:


Edit: I notice the color difference in the reinserted "clean" part of the image. Seem to be a slight notch lesser bluish/greenish than the rest.

 Yeah, about that. Do you have any suggestions? I've seen people messing around in Matlab lately, to automatically color match different sources, but I know nothing about the program. Methinks I should ask around.

 

Sorry, no Idea on that. You may mess and try around, and then take snapshots and fiddle with the colors to check if you notice such odd things, like you see on the coller messed I showed. Or you try with one frame until you find the best match and then try to apply the color correction settings on tha movie parts.

"I kill Gandalf." - Igor, Dork Tower

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Interesting that in Italy they added "dopo la distruzione", which means "after the destruction" (or "after Judgment Day" as we call it since 1991) if I'm not mistaken. It's not there on the original English text and not in the French one either.

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I know, right? I guess whoever made that, read this book:

http://covers.dummies.com/applet_scripts/79580.png

Apparently writing "2029" and panning to a horrible dystopian mechanical nightmare wasn't enough. Maybe, if it weren't for that, in 1984 some italians might've looked at that and thought "oh, what a nice summer evening". They'd probably think it was a construction site on the A3 freeway.

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In the 70's and 80's "after the bomb" was a thing here in Italy, when they read it everybody knew imediately what it implied (as opposed to more generic sci-fi where humans have used up all the resources or similar plot lines) and it was trendy. I'm not surprised they added it.

Leo, maybe you should seek help in the more technical areas of the forum for the colour grading.

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Moving forward! As you may have guessed, I don't have much time on my hands lately, but progress is being made. I just need time to figure out some things in After Effects, like this shot here. Click to enlarge:

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Meanwhile I acquired original Italian posters and a lobby card for dvd and bluray custom covers

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Huh, I'd just use Aegisub/TextSub/Avisynth for that. o.o;

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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Molly said:

Huh, I'd just use Aegisub/TextSub/Avisynth for that. o.o;

 Just to clarify, the hard part is not the compositing of the text, it's making a clean plate in HD using the regraded bluray and a "patch" from the textless dvd release. Which is what I've been doing so far. It's not perfect yet, the patch still needs stabilizing, it doesn't look good in motion, but it's a step in the right direction I think.

Besides, as powerful as Aegisub is (I've used it) I'm not sure how feasible simulating gate weave on it would be. I'm guessing not very. The intent of this project is to try and recreate the italian version, and that entails making it look as authentic as possible, gate weave included. I'm not talking huge amounts, but it will be there, it has to be there to help "sell" the effect.

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I think this is the first time I've seen evidence of a broadcast of the open matte version. Sorry, I don't have it. Good luck on finding it.

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Leonardo said:

I think this is the first time I've seen evidence of a broadcast of the open matte version. Sorry, I don't have it. Good luck on finding it.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F0yWMBhe9w