Team Negative1 - The Empire Strikes Back 1980 - 35mm Theatrical Version (Released) — Page 6

team_negative1 said:

We are currently working with providing Harmy with ESB clips.

Adywan, as soon as we can get those clips/pictures to you we will. There are still a few more steps to go with them.

As with any major project here on OT, we can see what Harmy, Adywan, and Dark Jedi have to go through, with being asked when a project will be done.

Our answer is simply this, as Adywan put it, 'It's done when its done'.

For those that wish to follow us as we chronicle this project, we will continue to post HD clips, and a lot more High Resolution pictures as Works in Progress.

 

Team Negative1

Thank you.

:)

nightstalkerpoet said:

What if Tv's Frink IS -1? Talk about hoaxes...

Indeed...the way I keep ignoring my own perfectly valid and relevant question is the ideal smokescreen!

WOW, so the opening daylight scenes at Bespin are indeed very white with a slight hint of sky blue, probably amongst the few things the blu-ray got right.

Here are some of the many issues with the first Kodak Print:

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Crawl needed to be dewarped, bottom is fixed version:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k28044LsUdFEbW4WlDg

Another scene that needs major dewarping, bottom is fixed version:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k2IBxja4WyZBnP4WlF6

Team Negative1

More issues throughout the film:

Major cleanup on the Head of Real 4,

Top is cleaned, bottom is original:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k5TqezAotlfElQ4WlFy

Team Negative1

Here are 3 early Work in Progress clips, with corrections to color:

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Hoth Scene in 720p:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k51Qw2FsNfcEpF4WlGJ

Han and Leia Goodbye:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k3Id6rsJwQjERz4WlIh

Han C3P0:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k7I3rqLq9zs0HX4WlIx

Team Negative1

Lastly, a 3x, and 4x comparison between all the prints of ESB.

First, the 3x, with the Kodak 2, Fuji, and Kodak 1:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k1B5uUwZ6tGQ0a4Wm61

Mirrored here:

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http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-KQJ7k/i-N4sPdfW

And then a 4x, with the Kodak 2 , Replacement R3, Fuji, and Kodak 1:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k2Md9et0SsXAFU4Wm9n

Mirrored here:

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http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-KQJ7k/i-HNvWRjM

Team Negative1

TV's Frink said:

 

nightstalkerpoet said:

What if Tv's Frink IS -1? Talk about hoaxes...

Indeed...the way I keep ignoring my own perfectly valid and relevant question is the ideal smokescreen!

Well, you do keep ignoring the request to stop hijacking the thread ..... so it's not a total bust right?  

:)

Jetrell Fo said:

TV's Frink said:

 

nightstalkerpoet said:

What if Tv's Frink IS -1? Talk about hoaxes...

Indeed...the way I keep ignoring my own perfectly valid and relevant question is the ideal smokescreen!

Well, you do keep ignoring the request to stop hijacking the thread ..... so it's not a total bust right?  

:)

As I said, it's valid and relevant.

...

:)

Did everyone figure out which source is which for 3x, and 4x comparisons? Harmy was very quick last time.

Which do you think looks the best?

Team Negative1

Upper right corner - for me personally looks the best as far as details go, its one major flaw being the scene in which Piett approaches Vader while he is in his hyperbaric chamber which is way too sepia-toned.

Upper left corner - too washed out, too wobbly and too much loss of detail.

Lower left corner - too dark, it is however the one with most accurate colour palette in the Vader hypebaric chamber scene as far as I'm concerned.

Lower right corner - too blue.

Winner: Upper right corner, the most detailed of the four, only needs to have the sepia/orange corrected.

That's a good assessment. But we will be using mostly the one in the lower left corner. There will be a blend of all the sources as different frames  have different amounts of damage.

We will be posting a scene of Luke and Yoda in the hut, which highlights the difficulty of integrating multiple sources for one scene.

We would like everyone to look closely at it, once posted.

Team Negative1

Issues with frames missing from 4x:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k3XLDrjENbwgKf4WBJW

Another mirror here:

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http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-KQJ7k/i-B3cfzWZ

By the way, the cleanup of the Head of reel 4, took several weeks, so this kind of cleanup will also take a much longer time.

Team Negative1

team_negative1 said:

That's a good assessment. But we will be using mostly the one in the lower left corner. There will be a blend of all the sources as different frames  have different amounts of damage.

We will be posting a scene of Luke and Yoda in the hut, which highlights the difficulty of integrating multiple sources for one scene.

We would like everyone to look closely at it, once posted.

Team Negative1

Even me?

I'll look closely at the scene, if you promise there aren't any subliminal messages embedded.

Ok, now that you've taken a look at. What is the suggested course of integrating the sources. You need to take into account that each scan is at least 2k in size. You will need to evaluate each frame of each print. Then you will need to decide what frame should be inserted and the relative amount of damage on each frame.

Once you do that, you need to be aware of cropping, and distortion issues. As there may be some warping on the frame. You will need to compensate for those, and finally apply color correction to it.

There, you just finished 1 frame of the restoration, not including the audio.

Repeat approximately 170,000 more times, and there you go, the completed restoration of ESB, not including the downsampling, conversion, and synchronizing of it.

Team Negative1

Touche.

Sounds like a monumental task, to put it mildly. Good luck.

team_negative1 said:

Ok, now that you've taken a look at. What is the suggested course of integrating the sources. You need to take into account that each scan is at least 2k in size. You will need to evaluate each frame of each print. Then you will need to decide what frame should be inserted and the relative amount of damage on each frame.

Once you do that, you need to be aware of cropping, and distortion issues. As there may be some warping on the frame. You will need to compensate for those, and finally apply color correction to it.

There, you just finished 1 frame of the restoration, not including the audio.

Repeat approximately 170,000 more times, and there you go, the completed restoration of ESB, not including the downsampling, conversion, and synchronizing of it.

Team Negative1

So it's done, then?

TV's Frink said:

team_negative1 said:

That's a good assessment. But we will be using mostly the one in the lower left corner. There will be a blend of all the sources as different frames  have different amounts of damage.

We will be posting a scene of Luke and Yoda in the hut, which highlights the difficulty of integrating multiple sources for one scene.

We would like everyone to look closely at it, once posted.

Team Negative1

Even me?

Ahhhh the post stated everyone so If you're looking for a personal invitation just to sling more senseless nonsense I doubt it's coming any time soon.

I just want to be sure.  You can't be too careful these days.

That Full HD Cloud City clip looks beautiful. I hope we see a lot more 1080 clips!