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Team Negative1 - The Empire Strikes Back 1980 - 35mm Theatrical Version (Released) — Page 58

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There’s one very confusingly named thing on spleen which is made from Harmy’s. It is supposedly recolored based on the grindhouse but obviously that’s counterintuitive as that release is red faded.

I think the BD25 of the actual grindhouse release is still there, though negative1 deleted the mkv.

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Finnius said:

thought I would share my stupid comment here…

He also wanted all of these threads closed.

Also, I’d be happy to go the rest of my life without seeing that formatting again.

The Person in Question

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Ok, you guys are correct. The Renegade Grindhouse ESB from TN1 is still on the Spleen as an ISO. Does anyone know if GOUT synced 5.1 audio (via Harmy’s/Harry_hen) was presented for this version? Thanks for the info.

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Someone uploaded gout synced video of tn1’s sw and ESB releases just a few days ago, I think.

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Thanks, towne… I had a feeling it was out there somewhere.

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moviefreakedmind said:

Finnius said:

thought I would share my stupid comment here…

He also wanted all of these threads closed.

Also, I’d be happy to go the rest of my life without seeing that formatting again.

I agree
with you completely. But
sadly its
something that wont
ever fully go
away.

Later
-Frink

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I actually know someone else who had a similar posting style, but used longer lines.

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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towne32 said:

Someone uploaded gout synced video of tn1’s sw and ESB releases just a few days ago, I think.

His SSE “GOUT SYNC” isn’t.
Its STAR WARS title card appear at frame 666-- off by 23.
Consequently, instead of inserting blackness between reels,
the black bits are coming 23 frames after the reel change.

Of course it’s water under the bridge since Williarob anounced GOUT-sync’d 1.5

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r

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Hi all,
Curious to know if anyone kept hold of the “Technicolor and Empire Strikes Back Sanitised 35mm Previews 2016” folder before it was removed from the Spleen. I’ve seen the Reel 5 Tech IB preview, but would be interested to see in what ways they were able to colour correct that ESB print.
Any help greatly appreciated

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Got usenet?

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r

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I just uploaded on M/S a torrent containing a batch of audio files copied from Harmy’s DE 2.0 of Empire MKV that have been edited-down to synch with Renegade Grindhouse ESB: Blu Ray Compatible ISO—meaning, for each audio stream from Empire DE, I have trimmed the length of the audio to match the length of the Renegade Grindhouse Empire video of the release print scan and the edited audio is in synchronization with that video. You will not hear any audio anomalies of the edits-clicks, pops, etc.

All you have to do is mux the audio files with the video…provided that you extract video from the ISO disc image and join the six m2ts files to one long video file.

I decided to work with the ISO Compatible version instead of the previous MKV version of the same presentation because that MKV had a glitch in the final scene of the film where it was corrected in the ISO. Also, many folks had problems playing the MKV’s 4:2:2 colorspace format.

To make sure that the length of the GOUT audio files matches that length of ESB release print video, I had to compare the number of frames of each shot of the film between the release print video and the GOUT video. If so much as one frame is missing from the release print video, I have to go the GOUT audio to trim it. Fortunately, the avisynth scripts for syncing the release print video to the GOUT audio created by fandangos and Darth Mallwalker were a great start to finding these shots. My thanks to them for their work. However, I discovered other shots in the Grindhouse ESB that had missing frames. But, the thing is that, these shots show no evidence of skip-frames. This reminds me of this Hairy_Hen post…

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I’m actually fairly certain the GOUT does have more frames than might normally have been seen. The reason I say this is that if you listen extremely closely, you can actually hear small jump-cuts in the soundtracks where the audio has been looped, in order to extend it in length. Such a thing would only have been done if the video ended up being slightly longer than the audio, for the sake of maintaining synch.

Without fail, edits of this type occur each time there is a reel change. Since it happens about every ten to eleven minutes, these would correspond to the shorter reel lengths of a negative or interpositive, rather than the double length of a theatrical print. These are the same spots where different video transfers go out of synch with each other.

Most of this had to have been done for the Definitive Collection laserdiscs themselves back in 1993, but the GOUT also has a few additional edits of this nature that the laserdisc tracks do not, though for what reason I’m not sure. Since there can be so much discrepancy in frame counts between versions, even ones derived from the same master, picking one convenient reference and sticking to it—namely, the NTSC version of the GOUT—is the best way to ensure that audio synch issues are eliminated. I don’t especially like the idea of dropping any frames either, but in practice the differences are small enough not to be noticed when watching, and it is still more complete than a typical 35mm print (ie, the -1 version) would have been.

So, I did the trim of these shots in the GOUT audio.

For now, I’ve upload 8 audio files. The description of the files are as follows:

TRACK 1) 5.1 DTS-HD-MA [English] (1980 mix) (Yes, true 5.1 channel audio, not down mixed stereo)
TRACK 2) 2.0 DTS-HD-MA [English] (1980 mix)
TRACK 3) 1.0 DTS-HD-MA [English] (1980 16mm mono mix)
TRACK 4) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English] (1993 Laserdisc mix)
TRACK 5) 2.0 Dolby Digital [German] (1980 dub)
TRACK 6) 2.0 Dolby Digital [French] (1980 dub)
And for one of our members, Leoj… 😃
TRACK 7) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Spanish] (1980 Castilian dub)
TRACK 8) 1.0 Dolby Digital [Spanish] (1980 American Spanish dub)

Enjoy!

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Thank you very much, alex. I’m currently muxing a new blu-ray version with the german audio.

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Is there somewhere a wave/lossless GOUT synced file available of the 16mm mono mix?

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Assuming that you have downloaded the torrent already, that sound mix that you are asking can be found in this file:

English [eng] (dts-hd ma, 48000Hz, mono).dts

The 8 files that I mentioned above were copied from the audio stream of Harmy’s Empire Strikes Back Despecialized Edition, MKV container, so, the mono mix of the 1980 16mm version is in there.

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alexp120 said:

Assuming that you have downloaded the torrent already, that sound mix that you are asking can be found in this file:

English [eng] (dts-hd ma, 48000Hz, mono).dts

The 8 files that I mentioned above were copied from the audio stream of Harmy’s Empire Strikes Back Despecialized Edition, MKV container, so, the mono mix of the 1980 16mm version is in there.

It’s compressed though. He’s wanting the lossless file. I have it if you want but the sound isn’t any better. The source is very low fidelity so the garbage doesn’t get better with more bits.

EDIT: wait nevermind, if it’s DTS-HD then it’s lossless.

What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.

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alexp120 said:

Assuming that you have downloaded the torrent already, that sound mix that you are asking can be found in this file:

English [eng] (dts-hd ma, 48000Hz, mono).dts

The 8 files that I mentioned above were copied from the audio stream of Harmy’s Empire Strikes Back Despecialized Edition, MKV container, so, the mono mix of the 1980 16mm version is in there.

But those tracks have been synced to TESB Grindhouse, right?
I know Harmy’s Empire Strikes Back Despecialized has the track. I was just wondering if there is a track only download somewhere.