Team Negative1 - The Empire Strikes Back 1980 - 35mm Theatrical Version (Released) — Page 39

towne32 said:

Why would you not use the iso, then?

What it sounds like you're asking for would be for someone to download the iso and convert it into MKV format so you can convert it back to a blu-ray iso format. Is it a matter of not being able to add subs to the blu-ray easily? Still seems like the best option would be to use the corrected iso and play with that, rather than have someone make a new 20 gig upload for you.

The thing is there are no subs to use with the ISO. And someone said that the ISO and the 1080p MKV have different timing, so I can't use the MKV subs with the ISO.

I don't need any help, I'd just like to know if the team made a MKV with the corrected end scene. If not, I won't bother anyone.

Currently we don't have a corrected version in an mkv format with subtitles, sorry. However, the correction to the end scene was the only change, so that should not impact the rest of the film.

Team Negative1

Thank you. And thanks again for all your work !

Happy Star Wars day !

Happy May the 4th everyone, and continuing with the bonus previews.

Here is another 2 and half minutes preview of the end of the lightsaber battle ending Reel 5:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k57OJTyUhINaYgb2gz2

Note : Partially cleaned, and color corrected.

Team Negative1

Colors look amazing. So much better than the washed out GOUT.

Thanks for the comments, there will be a few more samples coming.

Team Negative1

Looks great!  My only critique/suggestion is to try to recover more of the blacks.  It is hard to see details like Darth Vader and anything dark.

Let me begin by saying that I have no fond childhood memories of any of the Star Wars movies, which might seem strange for someone born in the '70s. I don't think I even sat through any of the OT from start to finish until the early 2000's and I certainly didn't know they were "special editions" at the time. And while I enjoyed all three of them I never really viewed them as something special, from the standpoint of movie production, story telling and acting.

Last night I sat through the Grindhouse ESB and I was TRANSPORTED!

All the visuals and all the sound and all the pace and emotion, they all came together in this "unaltered version". This wasn't just some BS "blockbuster movie", it was a film! And a fine one at that.  I finally get why the OT is so highly regarded by so many people on this planet. And I can officially count myself as one of them.  :-)

FANTASTIC work Team Negative1 !!

Here is a sample of the cleanup that is being done.

This is from the Head of Reel 3, with some pretty drastic differences:

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Video:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k38D6EEHMK7pVLb4Syr

NOTE : There will be further corrections done to the color afterwards.

Team Negative1

Here is another sample clean up of a scene with the bounty hunters, including Boba Fett:

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Video:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k5TVJ1jLkMtGtUb4U8J

Team Negative1

Absolutely beautiful. 

These pictures illustrate exactly the issue I wanted to point out.  There are details in the darker areas that are being crushed into black (the first picture has more details than the second in each pair)...

Picture 1: whole left side is dark and you can't see the trees

Picture 2: bottom right corner can't see anything

Picture 3: bottom right corner, can't see the engine

Picture 4: Looks ok

Picture 5: Bottom area between the guys is to dark and can't see the details

Picture 6: Top area is too dark.  Is that a guy in the upper left corner or what?

Picture 7: same as picture 6 (duplicate)?

Picture 8: Can't see details in Dark Vader ;-)

Hope this helps!  Otherwise it looks great!  Just boost the lower end to not crush the dark areas into black.  In Adobe Levels, move the left arrow over to the right when stuff starts showing up on the curve to make the black stuff black, then move the middle arrow to the left a bit to boost the dark areas up so they aren't so dark.

I tend to agree with the blacks being crushed in those pictures. There seems to be not much if any detail left there. But it also seems to me that the overall image is somewhat on the dark side (heh) which could also lead to loss of detail in the shadow areas.

Are these the definitive levels or is this also just temporary for showing purposes?

Anyway, thank you guys for your hard work, you guys rock :)

I think all of you know that these are just temporary comparisons intended to show the results of the cleanup. We don't put up all the disclaimers anymore, because people tend not to read them.

The final versions will have some color correction done to them.

Contrast and brightness will be adjusted also. See the latest example of the Star Wars clips.

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/team-negative1-star-wars-1977-35mm-theatrical-version-release-details-and-updates/post/768858/#TopicPost768858

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Here's the original videos of the cleaned up clips, without the comparisons:

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Video 1:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6R0D7NCx7oXA4b5fEG

Video 2:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/kCPQBblPvwB1xvb5fXw

Team Negative1

Very nice. It seems that after artifact clean-up and colour correction, one of your next obstacles is flicker. How do you correct for that?

team_negative1 said:

I think all of you know that these are just temporary comparisons intended to show the results of the cleanup. We don't put up all the disclaimers anymore, because people tend not to read them.

The final versions will have some color correction done to them.

Contrast and brightness will be adjusted also. See the latest example of the Star Wars clips.

 Great!  I figured speak now or forever hold my peace.  While I am at it, some of the corners are round so I would suggest cropping a bit tighter so they are square.  ;-)  I really love the work you are doing, and I am just giving my feedback to help maximize the quality of the final product.

Thanks for all the comments. There will be cropping done at a latter stage to be more theatrical.

Team Negative1

We hope to have the ESB deconstructed version appearing at the myspleen site in awhile.

Details:

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March 2015,

Here is an archive of original scan of the first print we had.

There are 2 versions included here:

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1 1080p Non corrected Raw Version

2 720p Color corrected Version

Also included are several comparisons of different prints,

using selected reels:

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1 - 2 prints [original and partial Fuji]

2 - 3 prints [original, Eastman, and Fuji]

3 - 4 prints [of reel 3]

The first can be used as a reference version, although a

small segment of Reel 2 has been inserted.

This is for people to see the origin of our scans, and

how some of it was used for the Grindhouse version.

You can experiment with fixing it, and to see a color reference,

we have included a 720p downscale also.

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There are also some test color corrections and cleanup

to show what can be done.

There are numerous issues with the scan as listed below,

although it is watchable.

For : Original Version 0 Deconstructed Workprint

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Format : 1080p MP4 high profile

        VIDEO : 1920x868 .h264 video

        AUDIO : AAC 192k 48k Stereo English

Corrections : Added in partial scene at Reel 2.

              Added in credits from Grindhouse.

- Uncropped

- Not letterboxed

- Original dirt and scratches

- No color correction

- Warped scenes

- Blurred scenes

- Unstabilized scenes

- Platter scratches

- Sprocket scratches

- Visible garbage mattes

- Visible mattes

- Visible effects in composite shots

- Header for Reel 1 and Footer for Reel 6

- NOT compatible with GOUT sound

- Includes a basic Stereo soundtrack

There are some glitches at the reel change areas, and also

a few sound glitches.The second half of Reel 3 has some

framerate issues, but stays in sync.

Compatibility : 

At this point, there is no GOUT compatibility and the audio is English only.

For : Color Corrected Internal Test Version 1

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Format : MP4 low bitrate

    Video : 1280x556 .h264 video

    Audio : AAC 128 48k Stereo English

Corrections : Extensive color correction. Substution of better Reel 3,

and fixes to sound.

- Cropped

- Not letterboxed.

- Original dirt and scratches

- Warped scenes

- Blurred scenes

- Unstabilized scenes

- Platter scratches

- Sprocket scratches

- NOT compatible with GOUT sound

- Includes a basic Stereo soundtrack

- Credits are partial.

Technical : This is a low bitrate downscale to 720p

Compatibility : 

At this point, there is no GOUT compatibility and the audio is English only.

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Team Negative1

Can't wait for the new cleaned up version.  I can't wait to print this out and live it like it's 1980 all over again.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fqy499bl6gla74x/AAAJiiJXvf6i_ZvYHMAIprc3a?dl=0#lh:null-EP5_ESB_VHS%20COVER.png

that is a gorgeous cover.

team_negative1 said:

Happy May the 4th everyone, and continuing with the bonus previews.

Here is another 2 and half minutes preview of the end of the lightsaber battle ending Reel 5:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k57OJTyUhINaYgb2gz2

Note : Partially cleaned, and color corrected.

Team Negative1

This sample made me smile.  The detail I saw reminded me of how I felt about Star Wars when I was a kid.  It looks ..... real.  Thank you.

We are still working on the cleanup pass for ESB 3.1, but it will take awhile to do the color correction. We will keep you posted on the progress.

Team Negative1

ESB deconstructed is now up on Myspleen. It includes many comparisons and another color corrected version.

Comments and relevant questions are welcome.

Team Negative1