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Team Negative1 - Star Wars 1977 - 35mm Eastman Vs Technicolot Theatrical Version (* unfinished project *) — Page 7

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every time I see a bluray compared here I hear mike verta’s “fuck, no” hahaha

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How about instead of V2 you call this one "Team Negative One Legacy Edition"?

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That looks incredible, completely amazing. The amount of resolvable detail looks to be pretty much on par with the official BD, and with the grain it looks far more natural and pleasing.

Why is the Technicolor frame cropped slightly? I’m sure it’s been covered before but is the cropping measurably different than, say, the BD version which looks to be more opened up especially on the sides?

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Stinky-Dinkins said:

That looks incredible, completely amazing. The amount of resolvable detail looks to be pretty much on par with the official BD, and with the grain it looks far more natural and pleasing.

Why is the Technicolor frame cropped slightly? I’m sure it’s been covered before but is the cropping measurably different than, say, the BD version which looks to be more opened up especially on the sides?

Actually the Tech has more information on all sides than the BD:

http://imgur.com/J4tOzjs

I looked into why it is so cropped here and found that it was erroneously cropped by Photoshop’s Edit -> Align Layers -> Auto, used to register the images.

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it’s funny how they made the bluray look NOT like film. It looks underexposed and the highlights get clipped very harshly. Almost like what you would expect from a cheap digital pocket camera.

As far as my knowledge goes, part of what makes film look like film is that it has a very gradual roll-off near the highlights, like what you see in the Tech and NOT in the bluray

The Tech almost seems to have more latitude in its dynamic range than the bluray.

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Still can’t believe all this is happening. Keep up with the good work, guys!

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Lasz said:

it’s funny how they made the bluray look NOT like film. It looks underexposed and the highlights get clipped very harshly. Almost like what you would expect from a cheap digital pocket camera.

As far as my knowledge goes, part of what makes film look like film is that it has a very gradual roll-off near the highlights, like what you see in the Tech and NOT in the bluray

The Tech almost seems to have more latitude in its dynamic range than the bluray.

As far as the highlights of the Blu-ray, there is almost no clipping in any shot if you look at the raw data in the file, it’s just that it’s severely clipped when it’s played. I can’t believe that it’s intentional, which means they just screwed up the encoding of the Blu-ray. I’ve been able to recover these highlights for Despecialized v3.0.

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NeverarGreat said:

As far as the highlights of the Blu-ray, there is almost no clipping in any shot if you look at the raw data in the file, it’s just that it’s severely clipped when it’s played. I can’t believe that it’s intentional, which means they just screwed up the encoding of the Blu-ray. I’ve been able to recover these highlights for Despecialized v3.0.

Take a look at the specular highlights on R2D2: they’re pretty much clipped in both images, but the transition from light to clipped is much smoother on the Tech image, which results in something much more pleasing to the eye.

The clipping on the bluray image looks much harsher, because the rest of the image is darker. It’s as if they completely screwed up the natural curve of the film.

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Williarob said:

Stinky-Dinkins said:

That looks incredible, completely amazing. The amount of resolvable detail looks to be pretty much on par with the official BD, and with the grain it looks far more natural and pleasing.

Why is the Technicolor frame cropped slightly? I’m sure it’s been covered before but is the cropping measurably different than, say, the BD version which looks to be more opened up especially on the sides?

Actually the Tech has more information on all sides than the BD:

http://imgur.com/J4tOzjs

I looked into why it is so cropped here and found that it was erroneously cropped by Photoshop’s Edit -> Align Layers -> Auto, used to register the images.

I take it back. I got my prints confused. The Tech has not been cropped at all. The larger image that looks like the Tech in the picture I posted to imgur is actually the LPP, colored to match the Tech! So the framing in the screenshot comparison is accurate.

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Now I’m confused.

You can clearly see more of the storm trooper on the left in the bluray. So the Technicolor is cropped. And a little bit from the top too. But bluray is cropped slightly from the right side.

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Rask40 said:

Now I’m confused.

You can clearly see more of the storm trooper on the left in the bluray. So the Technicolor is cropped. And a little bit from the top too. But bluray is cropped slightly from the right side.

Williarob said:

I looked into why it is so cropped here and found that it was erroneously cropped by Photoshop’s Edit -> Align Layers -> Auto, used to register the images.

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Rask40 said:

Now I’m confused.

You can clearly see more of the storm trooper on the left in the bluray. So the Technicolor is cropped. And a little bit from the top too. But bluray is cropped slightly from the right side.

Well the entire frame can be seen in the imgur shot as the image behind the Blu-ray. Presumably, the negative has at least that much information. From that, the blu-ray was cropped with more to the left than the right, while the Tech was cropped more to the right than the left… I have not cropped the images at all, and Photoshop was not to blame after all, I just grabbed the frame from the wrong folder when I went back to check. (Dre’s color match tool is so good it fooled me into thinking I was looking at the Tech!)

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But what does it mean?

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If I had to guess, it means some of the team (most?) disagreed with the way the scan was obtained. Or maybe they got spooked by all the media coverage. Or maybe -1 pulled the plug because he’s pissed about the team being banned.

I can think of about thirty reasons this might have happened.

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It means they either stole a print or illicitly scanned a print without the owner knowing they did it.

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How fucking utterly bizarre, and confusing.

A damn shame really, the Silver Screen Edition is so phenomenal. It would’ve been great to have a superior Technicolor scan equivalent.

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Density said:

It means they either stole a print or illicitly scanned a print without the owner knowing they did it.

Did I misunderstood the question? I thought he was asking why they disbanded, not why the team account is banned.

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Stinky-Dinkins said:

How fucking utterly bizarre, and confusing.

Honestly, are you really surprised something bizarre would happen with this team?

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TV’s Frink said:

Stinky-Dinkins said:

How fucking utterly bizarre, and confusing.

Honestly, are you really surprised something bizarre would happen with this team?

How many handcuffs are we going to need? That’s the real question here Frink and you know it, and the ultimate answer to this grand mystery.

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