Team Negative1 - Return of the Jedi 1983 - 35mm Theatrical Version (unfinished project) — Page 16

Author: Williarob
Time: 16-Jun-2015 2:52 PM
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SilverWook said:

Harmy said:

Plus, aren't 70mm prints more cropped on the sides?

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Author: team_negative1
Time: 17-Jun-2015 8:47 PM (Edited)
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We've been checking out our two current prints, and extra reels. We will be combining the best parts to make a preview cut.

There is still a lot of weave in them, and the colors are off. But the prints are mostly clean, so it won't take much time to do the cleaning on them.

This will be used to consider the master release version. We think one of the best will be all that is needed. We don't forsee much of a demand for a Grindhouse or other alternate ones, since this is the least requested movie of the trilogy, and possibly the least favorite.

We are busy with Star Wars, but will continue to work on the other prints in parallel using the resources we have. We hope to have the entire Original Trilogy preserved in the best manner possible.

It is possible that this might be completed before Empire Strikes Back. We shall see.

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Author: poita
Time: 17-Jun-2015 9:39 PM
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Yeah 70mm is cropped, so although it may have extra detail you miss quite a bit.

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Author: leecho
Time: 19-Jun-2015 3:38 AM
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But of course there is a demand for grindhouse ROTJ.

Author: Molly
Time: 19-Jun-2015 6:19 AM
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There's always a demand for grindhouse. ~.^

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Author: towne32
Time: 19-Jun-2015 7:02 AM
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I'd like a Grindhouse of this one. Of the three Team Negative 1 projects, it's definitely the one I'm most interested in.

Author: team_negative1
Time: 19-Jun-2015 12:25 PM
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We'll consider it. But besides the heads and tails. The prints are very clean, and don't really have a Grindhouse look to them.

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Author: jerclayv2
Time: 19-Jun-2015 3:32 PM
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Just bring it on guys! :)

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Author: Bobocop
Time: 19-Jun-2015 11:01 PM
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Bring it on. I prefer a straight fight to all this sneaking around ;)

Author: team_negative1
Time: 20-Jun-2015 3:06 PM
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This movie is currently 3rd in the queue behind the other movies. However, in a few weeks, we should have a hybrid workprint, so we can see what we have to work with, and what areas to concentrate on.

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Author: Asaki
Time: 21-Jun-2015 2:50 AM
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team_negative1 said:
We don't forsee much of a demand for a Grindhouse or other alternate ones, since this is the least requested movie of the trilogy, and possibly the least favorite.

Because of this, it is also the most neglected film, as far as preservations go.

Although, on the other hand, it's also the only film from the 2006 GOUT that isn't completely drowning in ugly DVNR.

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Author: team_negative1
Time: 21-Jun-2015 10:17 PM (Edited)
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True. The versions released of Return of the Jedi, have the least issues, so the only remaining one is to restore the original scenes back in, which won't be a problem.

As mentioned in the other threads, we do have 4k sources, that will be downsampled to provide the basis of the restoration. There is already plenty of detail in the shots, as shown from our previews, screens, and short clips that are up.

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Author: yoda-sama
Time: 22-Jun-2015 1:59 PM
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I wouldn't say to take greater love of the other two films as disdain for RotJ (or even most disdain of RotJ as hate toward RotJ). Sure, I love the other movies more than RotJ, but I still love RotJ, and it shouldn't have to take a back seat. If it is in better shape than the others, I see no reason to hold back its release, in any form you can give it to us. Heck, this is the only -1 forum thread I follow, since the other two movies are sure to get more attention than RotJ, so I lurk here for moments like this, to voice support for the 3rd most beloved, but still beloved, Original Trilogy Star Wars film (without which, it wouldn't be a trilogy, obviously).

Author: team_negative1
Time: 22-Jun-2015 2:44 PM
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We're not saying we hate the movie either. However, we only have so many resources, and those are definitely directed at the first and second movies respectively, since those are our priority.

Return of the Jedi, is not being neglected. It is placed lower on the priority list, because it is the best condition, and requires the least amount of work.

Although we did release Empire Strikes Back out of order, that was a Grindhouse version. We are trying to release the trilogy restored chronologically, so Jedi would be third anyways.

The lack of a Grindhouse version was explained before, as the condition of it does not warrant a release as such.

It's good to see a few people stand up for the movie, but that follows the general consensus about the demand for it.

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Author: crampedmisfit1990
Time: 22-Jun-2015 4:28 PM
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To tell you the truth, there are some things about ROTJ that are better than the first two movies, but in all honesty... Empire is really the best film. I find it hard to pick my very favorite Star Wars film, you basically just have to watch all three together as a package deal to feel right. haha

Author: team_negative1
Time: 22-Jun-2015 4:48 PM
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Right. It is important for the Trilogy, regardless of its quality. We've wouldn't have considered it, but since we acquired the resources, we will be including it.

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Author: team_negative1
Time: 5-Jul-2015 6:46 PM
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Not exact matches, but just to give you an idea about detail:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Team-Negative1-Return-of-the-Jedi-1983-35mm-Theatrical-Version-Release-Details-and-Updates/post/708913/#TopicPost708913

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http://imgur.com/lyTapxu

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http://screencapped.net/movie/starwars/albums/userpics/10002/SWVI_0324.jpg

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http://imgur.com/mOJZCD8

Bluray

http://screencapped.net/movie/starwars/albums/userpics/10002/SWVI_0640.jpg

http://imgur.com/jBixpRp

Bluray

http://screencapped.net/movie/starwars/albums/userpics/10002/SWVI_7977.jpg

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Author: crampedmisfit1990
Time: 5-Jul-2015 6:50 PM
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To my eyes, your transfer looks a lot more natural. It has an organic look, where the BD has a sort of filtered digital look. Great looking samples.

Author: clutchins
Time: 5-Jul-2015 6:52 PM
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crampedmisfit1990 said:

To my eyes, your transfer looks a lot more natural. It has an organic look, where the BD has a sort of filtered digital look. Great looking samples.

Very true, but keep in mind that there hasn't even been any color correction applied.

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Author: crampedmisfit1990
Time: 5-Jul-2015 6:54 PM
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clutchins said:

crampedmisfit1990 said:

To my eyes, your transfer looks a lot more natural. It has an organic look, where the BD has a sort of filtered digital look. Great looking samples.

Very true, but keep in mind that there hasn't even been any color correction applied.

Yes, I know. I was about to mention that the color correction will work wonders to what already looks great. The BD looks dark as hell.