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Taking a stand against toxic fandom (and other ) — Page 14

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Warbler said:

Additionally there have been multiple times I have felt like saying something in reply to something posted here, but have not felt that I would be allowed to do so due to the tone set by the OP. (and I don’t mean acting like an asshat or a racist)

You’re absolutely right. It’s one thing to insist folks keep to the subject at hand and be civil. It’s quite another to insist folks agree with all associated links/examples/opinions etc on principle. I respect the OP’s position here (as well as the Mod’s endorsement of said position) but I absolutely share your contention that this is by no means an actual discussion.

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wow , I go away for a day and come back to this . I said it several times and I will say it again , this is a place to stand up for those who have been harassed , not to debate whether or not they have been harassed . and I have repeatedly stated , as have the mods , that if you want to state your opposition , then feel free to start your own thread ,yet some people keep ignoring this , even to the point of being banned or locked out of the thread to prevent further derailment ,and then I see they are back again . Then I see disparaging remarks about this being a " safe space " ,I can’t see these behaviors as anything but harassment and it seems like some people are reinforcing the case that the issue indeed exists . If this is not toxicity , then I don’t know what is .

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screams in the void said:

Then I see disparaging remarks about this being a " safe space " ,I can’t see these behaviors as anything but harassment and it seems like some people are reinforcing the case that the issue indeed exists . If this is not toxicity , then I don’t know what is .

That seems a little over-the-top to me.

Discussing the purpose and purposefulness of this thread hardly qualifies as harassment or toxicity. Many are legitimately confused as to this thread’s purpose. I was at first, too. So it stands to reason that when you get newcomers to this thread you’re going to be met repeatedly with the same questions and confusion.

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So…no acting like an asshole permitted in this thread. No d!cks either. Only pu$$ies?

Sorry. It was too easy and had to be done.

I know you want to put a spin on this but this place welcomes one opinion. And it claims that one side is being attacked. But when you look at the thread again you have to wonder who is attacking who.

So let’s discusss fan toxicity but without involving the so called toxic fans? Aka…the a$$holes. But don’t say safe space because it’s derogatory.

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^ kid, get your priorities straight.

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dahmage said:

^ kid, get your priorities straight.

Explain. I have a good job. I’m not rich by any means but it’s a good paying job. I have a fiancé. A terrific gal and the love of my life. Her mother even likes me. I pay my taxes every year and I stay out of trouble. Was there something I forgot to do before jumping on a Star Wars forum with less than 30 posts to my credit and discussing an interest of mine?

My priorities are out of line? What if I disagreed?

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None of that has any bearing on your behavior here, where you seem hell bent on being or causing a problem. That is what seems out of line.

Sorry to the OP for my part in continuing this mess.

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luckydube56 said:

So…no acting like an asshole permitted in this thread. No d!cks either. Only pu$$ies?

Sorry. It was too easy and had to be done.

Reel it in.

We can discuss the state of toxic fandom without actually demonstrating it.

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Possessed said:
I was hoping she could give me her recipe for chow mein noodles.

Ms. Tran isn’t Chinese. Perhaps you could let this tangent rest.

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Anchorhead said:

luckydube56 said:

So…no acting like an asshole permitted in this thread. No d!cks either. Only pu$$ies?

Sorry. It was too easy and had to be done.

Reel it in.

We can discuss the state of toxic fandom without actually demonstrating it.

Indeed.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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Everyone has been warned repeatedly. Any further deviations from the topic or questions regarding the thread’s purpose (which has been clearly laid out) will result in temp bans for all involved.

I have an open thread where anything goes as far as the discussion of “toxic” fandom is concerned, regardless of your position on the matter. Quit disrupting this thread and go there:

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Culture-politics-and-diversity-in-Star-Wars/id/61333

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Anchorhead said:

Possessed said:
I was hoping she could give me her recipe for chow mein noodles.

Ms. Tran isn’t Chinese. Perhaps you could let this tangent rest.

Uh…yeah it was already rested. It was one post. And the only reason I even added to it was because you asked me to explain. And the part you quoted wasn’t part of the addition, the addition was purely an explanation of intent. I’m confused. If you don’t want people to explain what they meant then don’t ask them too. Either way I meant no disrespect to her, and for some reason I thought she was Chinese, and the only thing I was making fun of was the idea that she was the spokesperson for Asians. But again, you’re the one that asked me to explain, and I did, without even making a new post, and am only now making this post because apparently you wanting me to explain was rhetorical. Fun times.

Amd yes it was a stupid joke, but like I said you’re the one that asked me to explain, it wasn’t a “tangent”.

Edit again:didn’t see Jay’s post until after I posted this. Sorry.

To be even clearer I agree with the message of the OP. The fact that the staff behind these movies are being harassed is disgusting. And the whole “the ST is just made by SJWs” narrative is stupid.

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^ He’s a good guy, that Mark Hammil. His twitter page is well worth a follow too (or bookmarking - for those of us not on twitter).
 


 

There’s been a couple of updates on the ‘Why We Fight - A Star Wars Story’ kickstarter film project too 😃

 


Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? And say something righteous and hopeful for a change?

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Hayden Christensen offers Kelly Marie Tran some advice on dealing with hateful fans (interviewer is tough to hear, might need to turn it up).

Nice to see him acknowledge that it’s a vocal minority rather than paint half the fandom with that brush.

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I honestly feel sorry for Hayden. I honestly think he himself was just fine as anakin. It’s truly not his fault George gave him terrible dialogue to work with. I challenge ANYBODY to sound cool saying some of that stuff. If he’d had something to work with u think he could have been a great anakin. As it is I can’t really imagine anyone else being better granted they had to say the exact same lines. And I (minus some obvious moments) enjoy his performance in ROTS. Didn’t deserve this career killer. I hope KMT doesn’t suffer the same fate.

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He does have his fangirls though. Even one of the Lego SW cartoons made a joke about it.

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oojason said:

Too right, screams in the void

(and love the artwork as well)
 

J0E said:

Racism is bad, mmmkay?

J0E - are you the lad that used a character’s ethnicity and size to try and denigrate them in one of the TLJ threads last year? And referred to another character as being a lesbian as you couldn’t be bothered to learn her name too? As the film didn’t make you care enough to learn them? - Though seemingly did make you care enough for you to criticize the characters in such a derogatory manner?

If so, I’m glad you’ve learnt that racism is bad. Good for you.

 

I seem to remember publicly apologizing in that same thread and apologizing directly to you via PM’s a few days later for being such an asshole. In my own admittedly weak defense, when I posted here, it was just a link to the picture. This was well before I heard about the harassment of the actress that played Rose. I thought this thread would be a “god everyone who dislikes the new movies is sexist” type deal. It doesn’t make it right and I’m well aware of that. Upon re-reading those posts I made in TLJ thread, It wasn’t my intention to come off the way I did, It looks really bad in retrospect. It looks bad because it is bad. I deeply regret what I said and I’m sorry.

@screams into the void
I’m sorry for coming into your well intentioned thread and shitposting. You have my deepest apologies buddy, God fucking speed.