TMBTM's "The War of the Stars"; a Star Wars "grindhouse" cut (Released) — Page 5

Well, I think that with After affects I could choose the amount of effect I want, and so it would help to blend the possible additional footages.

The one thing that is missing from these edits are trailers for edits you haven't and will never make.

They would be especially handy for a fauxVHS release.

Having to sit through or fast forward beyond 10 to 15 minutes of trailers was so much part of the early VCR experience.

You could even do a fake fast forward feature (basically a mockup of the trailers sped up with awful video frame interference which could skip about a minute into the main feature) into the DVD structure.

You would need to make a really crappy animated video label logo ident too with a really annoying ear worm jingle.

I was listening to the Star Wars Radio Drama last night, and it was good stuff. However, the one thing that stuck out to me was that Darth Vader's voice was not nearly as intimidating, and often came across as somewhat cheesy. If you were to dub over JEJ in War of the Stars with his "soundalike" from the radio drama, I think that the effect would seem a lot more believable.

The best option of all would be to use David Prowse's on-set dialogue, but unfortunately I think that Lucas is the only one who has access to the whole movie's worth of them so I don't think that would be too plausible.

Timstuff said:

If you were to dub over JEJ in War of the Stars with his "soundalike" from the radio drama, I think that the effect would seem a lot more believable.

I'm not sure the effect is supposed to be believeable.  It's supposed to be poorly done.

At least, I think that was the intent...it works better if you think of it that way, at any rate.

The Leia interrogation scene is very nasty in the radio drama too but how that could be integrated into the filmed footage I'm not sure. not unless Vader was slowed down to almost Lynchian time scales.

TV's Frink said:

Timstuff said:

If you were to dub over JEJ in War of the Stars with his "soundalike" from the radio drama, I think that the effect would seem a lot more believable.

I'm not sure the effect is supposed to be believeable.  It's supposed to be poorly done.

At least, I think that was the intent...it works better if you think of it that way, at any rate.

I mean believable as in, I could believe they would release a movie that sounded like that. In the current version a lot of Vader's dialogue is incoherent and comes across as non-sequesters, and even in a badly made schlock movie I don't think that would be expected. Picking some dialogue from the radio drama, especially ones that sound cheesy when combined with an actual visual would make WOTS feel a lot more convincing as a real bad movie. Like when Vader force chokes that guy, we can hear him narrate what with visuals is obvious, like "Are you finding it hard to breathe? Does it feel like your throat is closing up?" It would be a lot funnier and would make Vader come across as overly theatrical, rather than schizophrenic.

Bingowings said:

The Leia interrogation scene is very nasty in the radio drama too but how that could be integrated into the filmed footage I'm not sure. not unless Vader was slowed down to almost Lynchian time scales.

I think he could do the scene by just having close ups on the faces of Vader's accompanying guards while we hear Leia reeling in pain, and maybe a long shot of the closed door from outside while we hear the torture going on within. Although, Leia's voice might have to be modulated slightly to sound more like Leia's tone (in the radio drama the actress was a bit more high pitched than Carrie Fisher). We don't even need the whole scene, just enough to show that this version goes way farther than the original.

Oh, and here's another wild idea: what about the possibility of giving R2D2 an actual voice? That has some major potential for hilarity.

Artoo's voice would have to be done in the style of William Daniels.

So, anyone have a good Feeny impression? :D

(for the record, I could probably pull one off if called on, though ^_~)

Timstuff said:

In the current version a lot of Vader's dialogue is incoherent and comes across as non-sequesters,

While Vader is indeed very lunatic and change mood all the time ("TAKE HER AWAY!!! / I think you'd better calm down") I don't feel any of his lines in my edit are really incoherents. Vader just need a good doctor! He is a stressed guy who constantly try to keep himself calm. At least that's the way I see it.

About the audio drama thing. I did not want to use dialogue made to match the movie, I wanted really new dialogue. At one point I even contacted a youtube guy who does JEJ impersonation. Perhaps it would have been better this way to get a kind of continuity to the voice of Vader, but in the end I really wanted to edit JEJ voice from other sources, because the fun of doing it was more important to me than the continuity problem caused by using different audio sources.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wiqnusl4ofA

He is great isn't he.

I think the guy has great potential and if he practiced it protected by the anonymity of the sort of thing we do here (as well as stage work) he could really develop into a talent beyond impersonation parlor games.

He projected the emotion of that speech much better than some well known professional actors might.

I just saw this....thought it was great. Very creative and a very good job!

Uh-oh, TMBTM, looks like someone stole your idea for Vader:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/This-Thread-Is-Currently-AboutDigital-Watches-PLEASE-READ-RULES-IN-OP-BEFORE-POSTING/post/397176/#TopicPost397176

Nice! I want one!

bkev said:

So I take it the Backstroke of the Empire was an april fools?

Yes.

bkev said:

Did I dream there was a Grindhouse version of TESB on fanedit.org for all of a day?

No.  But it was a fake.  I got fooled :-(