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TITANIC 35mm Preservation! (a WIP) — Page 3

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RU.08 said:

I respectfully disagree, film is not usually that contrasty. In the left picture the blacks have been crushed.

Then we agree to disagree. I distinctly remember the look of 35mm prints and seeing the scans of Star Wars and others confirmed my memories. Having trained in cinematography myself and having just finished my very own documentary short, I cannot, in my right mind agree with anyone, that the right image looks cinematic. It is quite unpalatable to me, to be honest. The Green shift is revisionist for sure. That I agree.

Look at your Titanic print. Gorgeous, proper contrast, shadows, deeper colours, good highlights. An image “alive” in every possible way. I cannot say the same for the Alien image on the right.

On a side note, it’s better not to begin another long debate arguing about ‘Aliens’ on a Titanic thread. We have already seen the colours on the Titanic print. There is no debate on the colours of that.

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Papai2013 said:

Then we agree to disagree. I distinctly remember the look of 35mm prints and seeing the scans of Star Wars and others confirmed my memories.

The good thing with Titanic is that I should be able to see it for myself soon projected from cinematic film.

Look at your Titanic print. Gorgeous, proper contrast, shadows, deeper colours, good highlights. An image “alive” in every possible way. I cannot say the same for the Alien image on the right.

Yeah there I agree with you, Aliens is a completely different film - but alas Cameron has been revising most of his films on digital.

We have already seen the colours on the Titanic print. There is no debate on the colours of that.

Well you saw a test scan, once I see it projected I’ll know a bit more about how it looks. 😃

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RU.08 said:

The good thing with Titanic is that I should be able to see it for myself soon projected from cinematic film.
Well you saw a test scan, once I see it projected I’ll know a bit more about how it looks. 😃

If you want accurate theatrical projection colours, you’ll have to use the VERY SAME BULBS used in theatres in 1997 and same voltage or whatever. I think bulbs in the '90s used to be warm/yellow-ish.

Would love to see the projected colours.

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Xenon lamps have been standard since the early 80’s. Older films would have been seen with a carbon-arc lamp (and a changer-over period in the 70’s). But if they’ve replaced the light source with a modern LED lamp it won’t be accurate - I’ll be sure to ask.

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If anyone else is interested in participating/contributing to this project please send me a PM. I’m hoping to finalize and send the payment early next week.

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slumberdore said:

How much has been raised so far?

Several people have expressed interest, but to date no contributions towards the $375 target have actually been received.

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Yep. Just to drive the point home, our scanner who has extensive experience handling film prints said he was amazed at the condition of this print! I myself have seen archival prints that are not in this condition.

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I shared it privately with a couple of people. But if you’ve seen the Vimeo preview you’ve seen how the reel looks. The 14 minute version was heavily compressed as well. The test scan was done before the reel was cleaned, and the reels are now getting cleaned to remove hopefully most of the dirt you see in the test scan.

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Interesting. As you can see from my header, I’m not only a massive fan of Cameron (Although that whole Avatar thing that he’s on is…worrying to say the least) “Titanic” is my favorite movie of all time and withthought that I wouldn’t love cinema as I do today. (Sorry, Lucas but Canada got there first.) I hope that you’ll release the print into the wild someday.

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Well I’ll be Goddamned! I might be able to contribute some money toward this project!

Ol’ George has the GOUT, I see.

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thatgenesisbastard said:

Interesting. As you can see from my header, I’m not only a massive fan of Cameron (Although that whole Avatar thing that he’s on is…worrying to say the least) “Titanic” is my favorite movie of all time and withthought that I wouldn’t love cinema as I do today. (Sorry, Lucas but Canada got there first.) I hope that you’ll release the print into the wild someday.

I sent you a message, click the message bubble in the top right of the page next to your avatar. 😃 As cpalmer2k mentioned, funding has been a bit slower than we would have liked which is delaying us a bit. But, once it’s scanned I expect we should be able to get a release out before the years end!

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Well I’ll be Goddamned! I might be able to contribute some money toward this project!

Ha, reminds me of the first cut I did of the preview video that had both the “I’ll be Goddammed” in it. 😛 Money would certainly be welcome, cpalmer2k can’t pay for the scan until he has all the monies.

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Not to be the new one who’s weird right off the bat but I coulda totally jerked it to that test scan. Currently sorting out my Paypal account, just made one so I’ve gotta wait for the 2 dollar transaction to happen and get that 4 digit code to confirm my card. I should have enough Aussie dollars to give $100US once my account is ready to use. Next payday is the 30th of this month and I should be able to swing another $100US if I budget correctly. Can do the same the fortnight after and so on until the $375 is covered. This needs to happen 😃

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Just to let you all know - first $100 has been sent, rest will be covered by me in the weeks to come!

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Thanks to Soupdrinker0 and another unidentified person for your donations. They are the first ones. I will continue to post updates.

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Sweet! More donations the better. Happy to help out bud

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They are the first not counting the huge donation that alexp120 sent to start off the whole process. 😃 Thanks Soupdrinker, you’re a very generous champ!

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Ok just to update everyone - I’ve moved some shit around in regards to my money and who and how much yada yada yada so i’ll be able to cover the remaining $270 or so in full on the 30th of this month to speed up the process all round.

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Thanks to FrankT for his donation as well!

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Keep the donations coming guys, it’s not fair to make Soupdrinker pay for your pledges! Plus, if we get more than $375 I can put the money towards improving the release in various ways.

Thanks again to everyone who has donated, and to cpalmer2k for handling the funds!!

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Update: I’ve sent the $ to cover the last chunk of scanning costs, anything others can give to the cause to make this release even better than it already will be would be appreciated 😃

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Thanks to Soupdrinker0 the scan for Titanic is fully funded! Of course doesn’t doesn’t cover other expenses like postage or hard drives, etc, but I’m really grateful to the forum and all involved.

Thanks to everyone who donated, but especially to alexp120 and Soupdrinker who between them covered 90% of the scan cost!

You can still donate if you wish to help with the other costs, so from this point on donations can be directed to me rather than cpalmer2k. A very special thanks also to cpalmer2k for agreeing to handle the scanning funds. You can also donate to my other projects and that will be really appreciated.

I will have a new video up today showing new footage.

The scan is progressing, we have so far the first three reels scanned, and hopefully the other seven will be done very soon.

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