AntcuFaalb said:
Does the 704 exhibit "CLV smear"? Most laserdisc players do.
Very few don't. A few examples of laserdisc players that don't exhibit "CLV smear" are: Panasonic LX-900, Runco LJR-I/II, Pioneer HLD-X0, Pioneer HLD-X9, and a few others.
"CLV smearing" looks like bad DNR artifacts sometimes.
Yeah, I've read about the infamous "CLV smear", it's a good thing you own a player who is said to not exhibit smear then.
SilverWook said:
I can only speak to the titles I own, but I have music videos that smear pretty badly on the 704. I archived them with my PR-8210, as most were analog sound anyway. In a movie like THX, I could see some smear around Pedro Colley's head in the white void sequence. I have read elsewhere even with all the DNR turned off, the 704 still applies some processing to the video.
msycamore, I'm pretty sure I transferred the pan and scan disc with the 8210. If you can hear audible buzzing on the soundtrack, that's what it sounds like with CX turned off. The disc didn't have CX encoding.
It wouldn't surprise me if someone slathered VNR all over the video master while censoring it for the Japanese release. Keep in mind it's a much older film transfer, even the telecine could be the culprit.
I can unfortunately confirm that there is indeed NR present in the captures, it may be present in the actual LD-master as it's there in all caps including the two UK LD caps. For the most part of the film it's fine but there are a few scenes which have clearly lost fine detail due to noise reduction. The thing is, when it occurs there's not a lot of movement in the picture and it's in these instances where it's also is as worst in the early pan & scan LD which makes me suspect the combfilters in these DVD recorders could be the culprit. It appears that sometimes the 3D adaptive filters fail to switch to 2D during motion when it suddenly appears in otherwise quite static shots, it very much reminds me of what I noticed when I first tried to capture my Technidisc SW-LD through the comb. Anyway, it's definitely not the end of the world, the WS LD-caps looks great, it's just a few scenes which exhibit this.
However, I began going through these captures again systematic looking at where they go out of sync with each other and I've encountered dropped frames in several places, actually there's fields missing in both the 2's and in the 3's in the PR-8210 US which are present in PR-8210 JAP and vice versa, including US from the 704. So you have 2:3:2... and suddenly 1:1:1.... in short bursts where it happens, still need to check the others so we can determine if it's a LD player hiccup or the fault of your DVD recorder... fucking weird.