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Adywan, before the '04 DVDs, didn't ANH have a pink tint to it? I don't know if that pink tint for the GOUT was corrected, but I doubt it.
Adywan, before the '04 DVDs, didn't ANH have a pink tint to it? I don't know if that pink tint for the GOUT was corrected, but I doubt it.
Could somebody who has the GOUT post images of scenes from inside the Death Star in ANH, I know the pink tint was worst during the garbage compator scenes.
To lazy to post post a screenie, but yeah, I'd say there is a bit of a pink tint in parts of ANH. Especially the Tatooine scenes. It's blown to insane proportions in TPM tho.
I thought TPM fit in more with the OT simply because its shot in film. You get some of the dirt and grain that some Hate but I kinda like. It is like Vinyl compared to CD.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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Janskeet said:Could somebody who has the GOUT post images of scenes from inside the Death Star in ANH, I know the pink tint was worst during the garbage compator scenes.
The screenshots thread has a lot of Death Star scene comparisons but not the trash compactor.
thorr said:You can also try using eac3to to convert to 23.976. It will do everything for you. Just use a format like this:
eac3to c:\sourceblurayfolder c:\newfile.mkv -slowdown -640 (for 640k AC3)
Then use tsmuxer to create the blu-ray folder from the mkv.
Hope this helps.
Mike
I tried this today. On the Sony S350 the sound did play from the start and didn't cut out at all but it is now playing too slow. The longer the movie goes on, the more the sound becomes out of sync.
Any ideas?
Janskeet said:Could somebody who has the GOUT post images of scenes from inside the Death Star in ANH, I know the pink tint was worst during the garbage compator scenes.
the garbage compactor scene has always had a sort of pinkish tint to it because its lit by red lighting. The GOUT has a pink tint all the way through but ANH never had this on the original OUT VHS versions
darthmunky said:Aaaaw. Are there any theatrical versions that are actually good quality with the correct color that are available on dvd? Or do you if there is any way to convert this to DVD format?
Open the file with VirtualDubMod. Use the resize filter to downscale it to a dvd appropriate size. Use a lossless compression to save as an AVI (although if you are cramped for space and time for it to compress I've found that using XVID and putting the quality to the highest setting works fine and any loss in quality is not noticeable) Then use a high quality mpeg2 encoder (like perhaps HC) and encode an mpeg2, then use a dvd authoring utility to make a VIDEO_TS folder of the file then burn with Imgburn.
I'm sorry if I'm rather unclear, I'm terrible at explaining things.
thorr said:You can also try using eac3to to convert to 23.976. It will do everything for you. Just use a format like this:
eac3to c:\sourceblurayfolder c:\newfile.mkv -slowdown -640 (for 640k AC3)
Then use tsmuxer to create the blu-ray folder from the mkv.
Hope this helps.
Mike
Is there anyway to do this slowdown fix but cut out frames to bring the new sound stream down to the correct length?
Kurtyboy said:thorr said:You can also try using eac3to to convert to 23.976. It will do everything for you. Just use a format like this:
eac3to c:\sourceblurayfolder c:\newfile.mkv -slowdown -640 (for 640k AC3)
Then use tsmuxer to create the blu-ray folder from the mkv.
Hope this helps.
Mike
I tried this today. On the Sony S350 the sound did play from the start and didn't cut out at all but it is now playing too slow. The longer the movie goes on, the more the sound becomes out of sync.
Any ideas?
does the sound go out of sync so its playing earlier than it should do as the movie goes on or later?
It's like the sound has been slowed down so the longer the movie plays, the more out of sync it gets.
When the STAR WARS title appears, the sound is only about 1 second behind, but when the death star explodes you don't hear the explosion until 5 minutes later!
well it looks like thats been slowed down way too much. Its amazing that it seems to be limited to the sony player thats having problems. Especially when it was a sony program that encoded the AC3 in the first place. Thinking about it sounds like that program may be thinking it should be slowing the video down from 25fps to 23.976 fps.
actually i just found this on another forum
The commands in eac3to are "-speedup" for the 24p->25p change and "-slowdown" for the 25p->24p change, as showed here:
it looks like eac3to cannot change the framerate from 24fps to 23.976, so there is your problem right there. but what you can try is first use besweet to change the framerate from 24fps to 25fps the use the slowdown function on eac3to to change it from 25fps to 23.976. this way the finished avi won't be a problem one created by besweet
not sure if you have already seen this but heres the wiki for eac3to
24 -> 25FPS and 25 -> 23.967FPS
Thanks I'll give that a try.
Well, the 24->25FPS then 25->23.976FPS slowdown almost worked. The sound is still running slightly too slow but the delay in the death star explosion is only 8 seconds now.
Maybe converting from 24 to 25 in besweet and then 25 to 24 in eac3to might work?
Kurtyboy said:Well, the 24->25FPS then 25->23.976FPS slowdown almost worked. The sound is still running slightly too slow but the delay in the death star explosion is only 8 seconds now.
Maybe converting from 24 to 25 in besweet and then 25 to 24 in eac3to might work?
thats what i said to do. don't use eac3to to convert from 24 to 25fps because it will only do 23.976 to 25fps (they call it 2400/1 which is 23.976 and not true 24fps.) you need to do the 24fps to 25fps in besweet first
you did make sure to change the framerate in tsmuxer of the video to 2400/1 from 24fps didn't you? because that would account for the slight delay now is the video was still running at its 24fps framerate but using eac3to to do the first step of the framerate conversion would also account for the sync problems
Oops. I didn't do the 24->24000/1001 conversion to the video stream. I'll try that. Thanks Ady.
That didn't quite work either. Now the sound plays slightly too early. Starts off looking okay but by the time the death star explodes you hear it 8 seconds before you see it!
I'm no expert at video files and frame rates but maybe someone knows what's going on here? My previous attempt where I didn't convert the video strem from 24 to 23.976 had the sound 8 seconds late LOL!
it sounds like your messing up the framerate conversion somewhere along the line.
ok. heres a quick run through.
open up the demuxed ac3 audio from the 24fps original in besweet. now change the framerate from 24fps to 25fps exactly as in the screencap below
now click on the AC3 & OGG tab in besweet ,marked with the arrow in the screencap below., and change the bitrate to 640
now export your AC3
next convert the AC3 from 25fps to 23.976fps using eac3to.
once that is finished import the demuxed video file and AC3 into TSMuxer. make sure you click on the video stream and change the framerate to 2400/1. now before you create the new blu-ray folders you want to create a sample to test for sync. click on the "split & cut" tab and tick enable cutting . input the start time to about 100m and end time to about 105min (you can change these to whatever you want but towards the end of the movie will give you a good idea of the sync)
now check your sample. if this is in sync then you are good to go. if possible check on the media player you will be watching it on instead of using a pc player because sometimes sync goes out in a software pc player even though there is no sync problems with the file.
I'm pretty sure that is exactly what I did but I will go over it again. Thanks.
Well I'll be damned! It pretty much worked :)
Previously I was converting the video from 24 to 23.976 while demuxing the MTS2 file on my DVDR but when leaving the conversion until the final creation of the Blu-Ray disc it works.
The only thing wrong is the subtitles are now playing to fast. I thought that ticking their 'Bind FPS to video file' box would solve this but it doesn't.
Maybe I can find a program out there that converts the FPS of .SUP files from 24 to 23.976?
Many thanks to Adywan. All you Sony S350 owners can now enjoy his fine release :)
I have the Sony S350 and never had any problems to begin with,just burned Ady's file and watched it.
Strange. Myself and other 350 owners had the exact same problem with ANH while ESB played fine.
Ady, was there a second release? Could someone else have fixed it and uploaded it somewhere?
I'm almost done with my set of covers.
Muchas grande to MoveAlong for the Imandix assistence.
That's a fatastic looking cover there Sluggo...
Very nice work - I'm looking forward to seeing the finished set :¬)
Two questions: Is this actually an HD version of the 97 SE or is it a corrected 04 with the laserdisc soundtrack of the 97? Does anyone know if this can be played as a file on a pc (VLC) without going to blu-ray?
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