THE OT SOUNDTRACKS SALVAGE - SWESBROTJ -"remastered"(so far)+ LP's (Released) — Page 8

Looks nice! Oh, and an easy way to have thumbnails is to put your stuff at Photobucket and they give you links for thumbnails.

I got the cassette versions of the OT soundtrack many years ago (didn't have a CD player yet) and man were they expensive! :p They all had to be ordered as imports. If you'd like to see what they look like, I could take some pics for you.

Thanks Ripplin, they're already on Photobucket, I tried to use the links for the thumbnails before but they just showed up as links. I'll try again.

Yes, thanks, I'd love to see the original artwork for the tapes, I actually looked everywhere on the web for them, with no result, until I finally came up with the idea of making them myself.

Ok, I couldn't find Star Wars, but here are the very no frills ESB and ROTJ (the tape in both is modly, unfortunately...):

And here's one of the many aftermarket Star Wars soundtracks that came out:

ABC to make you feel a little better. When I had to reformat my hard drive and re install windows the only thing I saved was the soundtracks you sent me and photoshop projects.

They were just too valuble for me to let them go.

Ripplin said:

Ok, I couldn't find Star Wars, but here are the very no frills ESB and ROTJ (the tape in both is modly, unfortunately...):

they're plain, yes, but they're nice. I suppose "Star Wars" had a similar design with a different picture, of course...

too bad your tapes are moldy, but there's still hope to recover them!

I read online it is possible to remove the mold from the tapes, although it's not an easy operation.

The cover to Star Wars actually doesn't look like those two, with the red lettering and all. It looks just like the LP version; black background with a white logo. So basically, just picture the LP as more of a rectangular shape. ;)

I noticed in the txt files included with the soundtracks that is says the following
for The Empire Strikes Back.

IMPORTANT: 0'sec pause at tracks: CD2: 09. 11.

And for Return of the Jedi it says.

IMPORTANT: 0'sec pause at tracks: CD1: 04. 11. 12. - CD2: 21 (don' t miss that one !)

Does that mean that there should be no pauses *after* each of those song numbers?

Also, how do you do that? I've never set up music CD's like that before. How do you set the CD burning program to put "0 second pauses" after those specific songs, and only those songs?

My computer came with Nero 7 Essentials.

Thanks for any info.! :)

ChainsawAsh said:

Just have 0 second pauses for every track except the first on the disc (2 seconds for track 1, which is required for audio CDs).  That's what I do for all CDs - so figuring out which tracks get 0 seconds and which don't isn't an issue.  It really simplifies everything quite a bit.

 Why not.

... Otherwise, just right-click on the track meant to have a 0" pause, check the properties and change the 2" to 0".

Having no pause like ChainsawAsh likes to do can be a little tirying to listen on an entire score.

Does that mean that there should be no pauses *after* each of those song numbers?

That means the track mentionned has no pause when it starts, what means *before*.

Ok, I clicked on each indicated track number and set the pause to 0, seems to have worked just fine. :)

I've had a chance to listen to some of the Star Wars music. When I watched the SE, it had seemed to me that some of the upper frequencies in the music at the beginning of Star Wars were more prominent than they had been before, but I wasn't quite sure. Now after reading up on this here and listening to this new set, I can see I was right. It's like they emphasized the upper frequencies for some reason in the official soundtrack in the SE, giving it a bit of a bright harshness. ABC seems to have taken away this artificial emphasis and restored the balance closer to the original sound. So it sounds more like it did in the theater originally. It sounds smoother, less strained.

What do you guys think about this, is this closer in sound to the pre-SE Star Wars soundtrack in theaters and the original vinyl LP's of the soundtrack?

Thanks for the effort, ABC. :)

I suggest you wait and listen the entire set if it's not already done. J

I found my Star Wars cassette:

Notice how under the copyright years, it says FULL CREDITS INSIDE...

...and there are none whatsoever. Unless they're saying that C-3PO is responsible for everything! ;)

^True enough! ;)

It is definitely an odd choice. If they only wanted to go with one picture, why that one? And why such a tight shot that barely shows any of R2? They could've used a nice wide horizontal shot of...anything, really. I think I would've used the last shot of the movie, in the throne room. It shows almost all of the main hero characters together.

I haven't downloaded everything yet, but I just wanted to say that this set is fantastic.  ROTJ in particular packs an incredible punch and is worlds better than the official, muffled SE release.  The only jarring thing is the Jabba disco track in the middle of the underscore.  I would move source cues to the end of the disc, so as to maintain the flow...

All in all from what I've heard so far a fantastic set.  On the LP transfer of Star Wars, there is some light crackling, but with that comes astonishing clarity and depth and dynamic range.  I'm hearing instruments in the mix that I never heard in the other versions, like some piano passages in "Imperial Attack."  Comparing "Rescuing the Princess" from the record with the improved CD and the Special Edition CD, the mix on the record beats both.  There's a little clarinet solo that the strings just overpower in the later release, but the clarinet is mixed louder in the record.  

I think the records most accurately capture the music the way it was originally mixed in the 70s/early 80s, before all the music was remixed for later releases.  

Ripplin said:

I found my Star Wars cassette:

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Notice how under the copyright years, it says FULL CREDITS INSIDE...

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...and there are none whatsoever. Unless they're saying that C-3PO is responsible for everything! ;)

Looks very similar to what I had fancied it to be like.. except for the inside "credits" of course.. such a random photo

Hey Ripplin, I love the "... quality has a name" on the SW cover! J I wonder what is that name by the way.

Trooperman said:

 

The only jarring thing is the Jabba disco track in the middle of the underscore.  I would move source cues to the end of the disc, so as to maintain the flow...

 

You're so right about that my friend... So right. I was too busy with the sound to let this good idea come out.

ABC said:

Hey Ripplin, I love the "... quality has a name" on the SW cover! J I wonder what is that name by the way.

It's Polygram's slogan. :)

Then you see me reassured. ;)

... New topic title, once again to be more precise on the intention and the goal of the thread which would be to keep new visitors aware on what is this all about. I hope the added word of "restoration" is not a too pretentious one.

All the best !

EDIT: By the way, can someone report the recording dates of the choosen takes for RotJ and ESB (from the RCA 1997 SE's booklets) please ? Scans may be fine too. Thanks.

I'm looking through the Empire SE booklet and the only thing it has as far as individual recording dates is "Recorded at Anvil Studios, Denham, England and at EMI/Abbey Road Studios, London, England December 27, 28, & 29, 1979 and January 7, 8, 9, 10, 17, & 18, 1980"

Is that the sort of thing you're looking for? (I can write out the Jedi one too, if you want) That's as specific as it gets.

P.S. What's with the __________ in the thread title? Kinda weird. ;)

Ripplin said:

I'm looking through the Empire SE booklet and the only thing it has as far as individual recording dates is "Recorded at Anvil Studios, Denham, England and at EMI/Abbey Road Studios, London, England December 27, 28, & 29, 1979 and January 7, 8, 9, 10, 17, & 18, 1980"

Is that the sort of thing you're looking for? (I can write out the Jedi one too, if you want) That's as specific as it gets.

P.S. What's with the __________ in the thread title? Kinda weird. ;)

 Thanks, but those infos are already written on my backcovers... I would have been honored if you took a look at them I must say. :)

The RCA 1997 booklets, and only those, should have a tabloid of the recording dates ( I only had ANH from this first pressing) and it indicates wich takes were choosen to make the soundtracks. I wonder if the *good* tracks of RotJ are from the same dates. That would explain some things (and would answer a little to a question you once asked).

Anyway my friend, the project I was talking about in the last post has no interest anymore. I think I enhanced some of the tracks still on RotJ, but some others have a fragile equilibrium that  is now easy to spoil with new settings. And honestly, in addition of the will to save my time, I realized through the compilation I tried that I prefer listening to the whole soundtrack as it is.

PS: You said Weird ?... Strange !

Edit: ... You were right, better that way ;)

ABC said: those infos are already written on my backcovers

Oops, forgot to check.

Anyway, the ones I was looking at are those fancy laser-etched discs in the black packaging with the slipcases and built-in bootklets. Those are the ones you meant, right?

This style:

I had the Anthology before that, and the cassettes before that.

Ripplin said:

Those are the ones you meant, right?

Ohh yep ! Then... I guess I've said something wrong. ;)

Though, the source that reminded me about the tabloid was Wikipedia, and it said it contained dates for each take on RotJ too.