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Oooh ... I'm so ecited that I just misspelled excited!
Ripplin said:ROTJ definitely sounds better, but it's a shame that the original recording quality is so much worse overall than the other two.
Btw, I tried something... I may let you know in a couple of days it is quite an improvement.
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^Sounds good!
Its a surprise?
-Angel
Well, I think is, even for myself. I have now a version of the CD 2 with quite almost the same new powerful and clear sound on tracks 3, 5 to 14, 17 to the end. Track 4 is good, track 1, 2 & 16 are always hissy, and track 15 will always be a flat shit. All have been widened a bit again with only EQ, as usual. I'll keep in touch.
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Sounds good, ABC. :) Thanks for the news.
I've only listened to Star Wars and the LPs all the way through, but in those three I definitely noticed a greater depth than I did from the SE CDs. A lot of instrumentation I could barely notice in the recent releases popped out, and it felt almost like I was listening to a different piece of music. I didn't even care about the crackling on the LP transfers because I was so drawn in by the music.
I recently listened to my Star Wars LPs a bit. That was fun, though the system they were on--my grandmother's decades old stereo--was definitely not equipped to play sound of that magnitude. I saw an old Marantz turntable with RCA jacks later in the day at Salvation Army (along with a matching receiver), but there's no way I'd pay $50 for it.
Ripplin said:Sounds good, ABC. :) Thanks for the news.
Thanks to you. Your comments helped to check this out.
If it's as better as I think, and I'm about to think it is, I will try to send it to every people who requested the links (Ouch, big work)... Unless I share only with those who left a feedback or bumped the thread, that would be fair !
By the way Ripplin, can't wait to read your full review ! Hehe !
TLSO said:
I didn't even care about the crackling on the LP transfers because I was so drawn in by the music.
A funny thing with my Hi-fi material is that the LPs transfers are better with headphones, while I think the remasters are better on speakers. Off course all depend on your own material. :)
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Edited post: I' ve listen it three times and I have no more doubts that what I just made is now the ultimate ROTJ version feasible with that score. Consider what you had from me as a pre-remaster. However I will wait a couple of days to announce it definitively with bold letters and a trumpet blow. Lol !
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Oooh ... I'm so ecited that I just misspelled excited!
Kewl! I still haven't had time to listen to your ROTJ set, but I thoroughly loved the other four soundtracks (counting the vinyl transfers). Can't wait to hear the definitive remastering (for me, anyway) of ROTJ! :)
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Do you have EditDroid's ROTJ yet, ABC? Would love to hear someday if you can do anything with that "lost" music form Jabba's Palace. :)
I downloaded it last week and when I heard the quality of this lost track (wich is only some notes repeted X times for one minutes besides), I threw it away.
:)
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Finally got round to listen to the ROTJ and it's amazing some very good work done with it.
Ripplin said: I saw an old Marantz turntable with RCA jacks later in the day at Salvation Army (along with a matching receiver), but there's no way I'd pay $50 for it.
If they were in good condition, that sounds like a bargain.
Mielr said:Ripplin said: I saw an old Marantz turntable with RCA jacks later in the day at Salvation Army (along with a matching receiver), but there's no way I'd pay $50 for it.If they were in good condition, that sounds like a bargain.
I agree, but I still couldn't really afford to buy it, especially as I don't have much vinyl and have two good receivers anyway. If it's still around for a while and they lower the price, I might get it.
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OoooH! cant wait!
Thanks for your effords ABC (Warrior?)
-Angel
RETURN OF THE JEDI - FINAL VERSION
I did so much on the first version that there were a lot of things remaining I didn't dare to do or didn't consider in detail. These two last days, like a painter, I took my finest brushes and placed the deepest shadows and the final highlights. Indeed there was still a little place for clarity here and there, quite some space to carve between the most percussive frequencies (basses-mediums precisely) and the extreme low freqs to finish the un-muffling work: some hidden instruments we just guessed behind on most tracks have now a more obvious presence by revealing this space.
All this seems to have given a better dynamic to the whole set and reveals more again this (finally) very fine William's score. I'm beginning to like this one a lot !
It would be too difficult to say or remember all that I've done, but here's a little idea to what those of you who listened to the first version may notice.
... And yes it'll be available very soon.
DISC 1
1. 20TH CENTURY FOX FANFARE 0:22
2. MAIN TITLE / APPROACHING THE DEATHSTAR 5:22 A blasting "PERFECT"
3. TATOOINE RENDEZ-VOUS 2:50 Just a bit better. About the best as may be this corrupted track
4. JABBA'S PALACE ENTRANCE 1:10 Untouched (I did all I could the first time)
5. JABBA'S BAROQUE RECITAL 3:03 A bit more relief, I'd say perfect.
6. THE DROIDS ARE CAPTURED 1:17 Softer & clearer, kind of perfect... Beautiful !
7. LAPTI NEK 2:50 And now they have the power !
8. BOUNTY FOR A WOOKIE 2:50 ... As track 6
9. HAN SOLO RETURNS 4:01 Even better: Perfect ! (I wrote "awesome" on my notes)
10. LUKE CONFRONTS JABBA 3:14 Now clearer and close to tracks 6 & 8. A few hiss remains though.
11. DEN OF THE RANCOR 3:42 Clearer, softer. It seems the full orchestra is now revealed. AWESOME !
12. SARLACC SENTENCE 1:46 Untouched... Too dangerous !
13. THE PIT OF CARKOON 0:56 Just a tiny bit more clear.
14. SAIL BARGE ASSAULT 5:02 Have been calmed down as needed. Otherwise, a tiny correction for a great difference !
15. THE EMPEROR ARRIVES 2:07 Have been calmed down too. Now softer & bright... Perfect.
16. THE DEATH OF YODA 6:06 Back to life !... A bit. (a bunch of hidden instruments revealed).
17. OBI-WAN'S REVEALATIONS 2:51 Same idea (with a little hiss though).
18. ALLIANCE ASSEMBLY 2:10 Very very good, considering what it was at the origin.
19. SHUTTLE TYDIRIUM APPROCHES ENDOR 4:12 Now subtle and bright: a Perfect.
20. SPEEDER BIKE CHASE 1:21 Still a few better. Almost perfect ?
21-22. LAND OF THE EWOKS 8:16 21: As good as it can be (I think). 22: Clearer, a bit.
23. THE LEVITATION 1:27 Still bad. A bit clearer though.
24. THREEPIO'S BEDTIME STORY 1:12 Closer to what it should sound. Nice !
25. EWOK FEAST ...Not Good for the neighbours at night... Perfect !
26. LUKE AND LEIA 4:47 Totally refreshed. Very good.
DISC 2
1. BROTHER AND SISTER 3:08 Clearer, really better. Still one of the most difficult tracks.
2. FATHER AND SON 3:41 Clearer, really better, despite the hiss.
3. FLEET ENTERS HYPERSPACE 1:41 Very good. Still better.
4. HEROIC EWOK 2:00 Clearer. Best as it can be.
5. EMPEROR'S THRONE ROOM 3:26 Clear. Kind of awesome !
6. INTO THE TRAP 2:30 Still clearer. I’d say “Perfect” !
7. FOREST AMBUSH 2:00 A little clearer, a little deeper. Nice for such a hard track.
8. SCOUT WALKER SCRAMBLE / THE PRIME WEAPON FIRES 7:20 Perfect (a bit strong though…?)
9. THE LIGHTSABER 1:43 Kind of perfect
10. THE EWOK BATTLE 2:50 THE PERFECTION !!! (No more harsh trumpets, Vaderios :) )
11. LEIA IS WOUNDED / THE DUEL BEGINS 2:56 Smells perfection.
12. OVERTAKING THE BUNKER 0:57 Very very good
13. THE DARK SIDE BECKONS 3:37 I let you discover... J
14. THE EMPEROR'S DEATH 2:44 Close to perfect. More clear again.
15. SUPERSTRUCTURE CHASE 1:57 Hahaaa !!! Beuaaarrghh. A better shit… remains one. But still better though.
16. DARTH VADER'S DEATH 2:32 Considering the poor quality of the track: became good.
17. THE MAIN REACTOR 1:36 Clearer. Best as it can be.
18. LEIA'S NEWS 2:21 Idem. Now very good it seems.
19. LIGHT OF THE FORCE 1:11 Same way
20. EWOK CELEBRATION 1:56 Now as it should be…
21. END TITLE 6:02 Clearer, kind of perfect !
ALTERNATE AND ARCHIVAL BONUS TRACKS:
22. HAN SOLO RETURNS 4:09 Now really wonderful.
23. JABBA THE HUTT (NATIONAL PHILARMONIC ORCHESTRA) 3:43 Clearer, stronger.
24. SAIL BARGE ASSAULT 5:02 was close to perfect. Now gorgeous.
25. THE FOREST BATTLE (CONCERT SUITE) 4:04 I don’t find the word for this one. Couldn’t end better ;)
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With these changes i could beg for a comparisson clip with the most notable changes!
-Angel
Sorry I've worked enough ! :) I don' t mean to let you wait for long anyway.
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So should we PM you for the links to the new and improved ROTJ?
Good question... ! :)
The answer is: not if you already posted on the thread (There's only 4 pages, so... "I will deal with them myself" ;) ). I want every one to have this finished work in hands.
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Love to read this: "a bunch of hidden instruments revealed." :D
I bet some of the people that actually played on these songs were disappointed in the recordings. I'm sure they'd appreciate the work you've done as well.
A lot of things have been called back indeed. But it's a mess that the violins (a lot where still hidding) have a so low volume, they seem to be far. In the other hand they have a beautiful sound and it's quite amazing to hear them appear where there was nothing before but a far melted echo. A lot of other strange instruments are hearable, besides, and quite clearly. All this give a strange feeling of large space. :) It really makes the score richer and... Complete. THAT is a complete score ! Lol !!!
Just a couple of tiny retakes and they're yours :)
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Sounds great ABC!
btw: while adding tags to the flac files I noticed a few errors on the covers, any chance you can fix these as well some time? :-)
ANH:
the colour issue on the front cover I mentioned before
track 116: "Burning Homstead" -> homestead
track 120: "Millenium Falcon" -> millennium
"Compilded and remastered" -> "compiled"
ESB:
track 213: "loosing a hand" -> losing
"Compilded and remastered" -> "compiled"
ROTJ:
track 202:"Father an Son" -> "and"
"National Philarmonic Orchestra" -> "Philharmonic"
"Compilded and remastered" -> "compiled"
They're really nice covers, I feel like it'd be a shame to print them with these errors :-)