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Surround sound just makes things so damn difficult. What do you do?

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Trying to do a re-edit of Superman II and if i was sticking to stereo then perhaps Id slog it out because with Stereo you can cut out sounds, you can rip a music soundtrack to fade in here and there. Generally it seems hasstle free.

 

Contrast that to 5.1! I have two scenes and thankfully both of them have 5.1 but I really need to use some audio off the soundtrack. Fine, no problem. This is easy enough to do but I wouldnt have a clue how to do this in 5.1. Would I need to have 5 seperate wavs and fade them all in and out at the same time? Seems like far too much fiddly effort when my main goal is to do with the visuals.

Please tell me there's another way. Or do people generally do Stereo versions when they'r doing extensive changes?

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er ahh. not sure if i get what you wanna do but if your asking about upmixing stereo to 5.1 there are multiple threads here about it. and yes you would make 6 wavs to work with. but we need more information to give you a real answer. i.e. what is your editing program? ect. most people would want to do a 5.1 track because well we are in an age of surround sound home theater. as for editing audio you will be limited on what sounds you can remove. as far as removing voices this only works on 5.1 where the center channel has voice only. and that is rare or never. what i would do is cut the parts you wanna use from your stereo track and save them separately to wav. from here womble mpeg wizard can upmix to 5.1. or do em in vegas. keep in mind upmixed audio is not going to have the panning effects of true surround. its basically just turning 2 channels into 6. if you are just talking about using music tracks from the soundtrack that shouldnt be too hard just upmix them to 5.1 and edit them in. lets here some more specific info on what you wanna do. a particular scene where you wanna use your soundtrack.

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dude there is a stereo upmix tutorial literally right below your post. lol

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Cheers for the replies guys :)

 

What I have is two files that are 5.1. Footage from Superman The Movie and footage from Superman II. Its basically the scene where they'r banished to The Phantom Zone.

Now what I want to do is use the footage from STM but give it the pacier 'SII' style. But I want to retain the sound effects from STM. So I plan to have the music from SII (from the soundtrack) and take sound effects from STM. Appreciate you cant completely get rid of certain things but take the intro for example. I think the music for SII on the DVD sounds poor...but the same music on the soundtrack sounds great. So in that instance I'd use the Soundtrack but how to upmix to 5.1?

 

Well after the kind help of both of you im going to delve back into it once again :)

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is there two of me now? sweet! twice the annoyingness. well i have pointed out a tutorial for stereo upmix in the thread that was posted below yours. if you want an easy route use "womble mpeg2 video wizard" you just put your stereo audio into womble and go to the export tab then audio tab and choose 5.1 ac3. it may not be as good of a method as the tutorial i mentioned twice now. good luck bro.

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ibleedspeed said:

if you want an easy route use "womble mpeg2 video wizard" you just put your stereo audio into womble and go to the export tab then audio tab and choose 5.1 ac3. it may not be as good of a method as the tutorial i mentioned twice now. good luck bro.

That will sound TERRIBLE, it will have a terrible echo sound to it, if you want a really nice sounding 5.1 upmix you need to follow the guide that Doctor M did up.

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second that notion. i was just giving him an easy route since he complained about it being complicated. though yes womble does not do a great job. i never heard an echo but i only used it once.

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