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Superman 4 Recut Rough Cut (Released)

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I just finished work on this in rough cut form. There is many audio problems and drops as well as many cuts I still need to refine. Frankly some poor edting. This is why I call it a rough cut, it’s an assemble cut of what I am looking for.

I am using Magix Movie Edit Pro.

This is my first project and if it wasn’t for the encouragement from OCPmovie, Digital, Rikter and Fanfiltration I may have never done this cut.

What this cut is a version of the movie edited to the way I wanted it. Keep in mind it’s my first try with this stuff and it is rough at best. So I am calling it the Rough Cut. When I watched it last nite I found myself tearing it up and thinking about just hitting delete, then I thought about what what someone told me on the Orangecow movie message boards “If you have an interest everyone starts somehwhere, give it a try and don’t give up theres always help!!”

The Edits - I’ll get more in depth later. MORE DETAILS LATER

  • The movie starts with NEW TITLES and the original soundtrack Superman March Alternate from the OOP Rhino CD
  • Opens on the farm with a little twist. Some footage from Superman the movie is used here uncropped to the correct aspect ration - I am still working on this.
  • removal of just god aweful scenes and effects. Example - Superman entrance out of the phonebooth - fuckin lame he looks stupid. CUT
    Removal of Lennys stupid jokes. CUT
    Removal of the creation of Nuclear Man in Luthors make ship pots and pans scene - lol!!! CUT ( Actually this scene wasn’t needed the audience doesn’t really need to know how he used the DNA to create him we get the piont.
    Removal of some of the Nuclear Mans moans as well as the bad special effects. ALMOST all of them.
    (It’s funny how many special effects I removed how it doesn’t take away or even help the story with them in, wierd it’s like they didn’t need to add them)
  • complete re-edit of the of the throwing of all the nuclear missles, I cut the giant rope bag with all the missles. This is still work in progress I haven’t yet figured out how to get the piont across by cutting that.
  • Re-edit of the battle of Metropolis w/ Nuclear man and added soundtrack from the Superman 2 Soundtrack/ WIP
  • Cut Nuclear man capturing and taking MS. Warfield into outerspece (WIP) by cutting out the outerspace footage with ther being carried I made it look like it was nite amd moved some scenes around to make it look like shes in the nite sky instead of the stupid outerspace… lol~!!! to which she would be froze to death die and then burn up on re-entry.

Re-edits of some not needed scenes
Moved the opening scene of the russian cosmonauts to the end after his specch to metropolis and then into the credits. Damn this ending actually worked better.

I still have a lot to do somehow!!! I am learning…

I am sending the file to Rikter to review my rough cut anyone else want a copy I’ll usend it to your email address. Please respond only with good feedback and encouragement. I am not editing master like these guys.

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Realize...there will be a ton of deleted scenes on the forthcoming boxed set.

They found all the "lost" footage
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Kinda figured, I'll probably edit some scenes in if needed. My RUN TIME on this project is 79.54.

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I'd be very interested to see this. If you can send me a copy it'd be much appreciated! I'll gladly send you some feedback.

One cut I'd recommend is when Superman changes in the back of the car outside Lois' appartment. It needs editing properly so you don't see him coming back down after he jumps in the air, (supposedly taking off). Its really poor that they missed it during production, and it makes Superman look ridiculous.
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Hah... and I thought the subject was about the extended, full-length workprint of Superman IV.

Too bad there isn't and won't be a release of the first cut of SIV... and so far the "best" set I've seen is this pirate crap sold by a certain twat at a certain place (obviously removed):
http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=024QQPML1R11D3L7S0J3ZBUFJT
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Originally posted by: SammyTheBull
Hah... and I thought the subject was about the extended, full-length workprint of Superman IV.

Too bad there isn't and won't be a release of the first cut of SIV... and so far the "best" set I've seen is this pirate crap sold by a certain twat at a certain place (obviously removed):
http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=024QQPML1R11D3L7S0J3ZBUFJT


well...at least they found ALL the deleted footage. that's damn good considering they thought it was destroyed.
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I have the shooting script and there's tons of stuff that was cut of of the movie that really hurt what could have been a good film.
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I am still working on the final version, I am wating patientlyfor the delted scnes release to see which ones I can add to it.. So we are looking at July

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Originally posted by: Mitch
I am still working on the final version, I am wating patientlyfor the delted scnes release to see which ones I can add to it.. So we are looking at July


I thought the mega-superman box set wasn't due out until Q3, as it will include Superman Returns.

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I was about to ask why there would be another set. DVD-BOY answered that for me.

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I tried the link and it's not available anymore. Does anyone have a copy or new link of it to send me? I don't care how crapy it looks.
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Mitch,

I watched the whole rough cut the day you sent it but I've been tooling are my rides (and I deleted your email sorry!!)

There are a few things that I felt didn't play right with the cuts like when Lenny gets Lex and after the Sups/Clark double date (maybe nix this whole seen?) BUT I do like were it's going and look forward to the final version!

THANKS so much for the screener and I'm down to watch them when you send them (and I'll flag your email addy so I don't delete it!)

RiK

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Originally posted by: Rikter
Mitch,

I watched the whole rough cut the day you sent it but I've been tooling are my rides (and I deleted your email sorry!!)

There are a few things that I felt didn't play right with the cuts like when Lenny gets Lex and after the Sups/Clark double date (maybe nix this whole seen?) BUT I do like were it's going and look forward to the final version!

THANKS so much for the screener and I'm down to watch them when you send them (and I'll flag your email addy so I don't delete it!)

RiK

Hey Rik, I'm very interested to see Mitch’s Sups 4 work, particularly his alterations to the start (with new titles and Smallville edits) and the end (in which he has closed with the opening scene).

I haven't been able to get in touch with him so would there be any chance you could upload some clips of his cut. They need not be high quality.
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I'd like to get a status update on this. I've been working on a piece about SUPERMAN RETURNS and would like to also talk a bit about the cuts made to SUPERMAN IV.

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Originally posted by: Harlock415
I have the shooting script and there's tons of stuff that was cut of of the movie that really hurt what could have been a good film.


I watched the "first Nuclear Man fight" scene on Youtube about a month ago, and Christ, was it terrible. Bizarre goofy music playing in the background as Superman fights a man who acts like a retarded pre-schooler, not to mention product placement galore.
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It wasn't just the edits that hurt the film. Golan Glubus put the nail in the coffin with their treatment of the franchise. The script wasn't necessarily an outstanding one, but it wasn't the train wreck that showed up on screen either.
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