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You’re kidding me?

They actually left the door open for something special at this showing? Hmm. Cool!

Thank you for the investigative work. Keep us posted please.

The recently released official Celebration itinerary has the screening listed as “Star Wars: A New Hope”. All that can really be inferred from that is that they want to be consistent with TFA’s downplaying of the episode numbers, but the fact that Disney isn’t squeamish about switching around the title of a film from before they acquired LFL gives me a small amount of hope that they’d be willing to walk back more the extreme Lucasisms in the future.

Hasn’t Mike stated that his pitch would probably be near the end of the year? Also, let’s not forget that Reliance Media Works has been working on a 4K version too, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they were showing that one.

if legacy ends up looking better than reliance’s i’m hopeful it shows up on usenet in the future.

Well, I’m more hopeful of Legacy as a proof of concept than as a final commercial product. That is, to show what is capable to produce with what nth generation prints are still out there in public hands, and give the rights holders a tangible baseline to realize how good of a product they could have on their hands if they were to restore from their original elements, especially with the resources of a competent and dedicated restorationist (whether they’d fully entrust that to Mike, which his work may justify, or, probably, use him as a consultant in conjunction with seasoned or in-house restorationists).

How many numbers-weighing execs do you think look at the aggressively shiny and colorful Blu-ray video and understand how much room there is to improve on it (video/audio elements alone; I think even Hollywood laymen know of the general SE controversy) without stark comparisons shown to them in the brief moments they have when their attention isn’t being pulled between who knows how many other seemingly more pressing and important projects? Show them succinctly what is wrong with their product, how much better of a product they have available right now and how even better than that they could make themselves, leading to an understanding of just how much such a strikingly improved product they could have would be worth (well above any restoration costs, and, of course, the comparable “loss” of just continuing with the status quo of their current product).

I’m not saying I think Mike’s version will be the next official release, nor do I necessarily think he’d land a gig restoring the film for real, but if he does get his presentation and even a few execs, with solid facts laid in front of them, come to realize just what possibilities are open to them and it starts some wheels turning, it would still all be worth it.

Or it will convince them to go the cheap rout, use his, then throw together quick and dirty “remasters” of ESB and RotJ. I would prefer your scenario.

They used the original posters for the disc art on '04 dvd’s.

I think we’re making a mountain out of a molehill here.

Fang Zei said:

I think we’re making a mountain out of a molehill here.

I think we’re on ot.com.

joefavs said:

The recently released official Celebration itinerary has the screening listed as “Star Wars: A New Hope”. All that can really be inferred from that is that they want to be consistent with TFA’s downplaying of the episode numbers, but the fact that Disney isn’t squeamish about switching around the title of a film from before they acquired LFL gives me a small amount of hope that they’d be willing to walk back more the extreme Lucasisms in the future.

Related to all this (in that, I wonder what is even available for them to play at the event), does anyone know what version of the OT was played in those theatrical marathons when TFA released? I’ve been wondering if it was fairly new DCPs for the 2011 versions, or if they still have to theatrically distribute the '97 SEs.

I…? I…? Huh…?

doubleofive said:

yoda-sama said:

joefavs said:

The recently released official Celebration itinerary has the screening listed as “Star Wars: A New Hope”. All that can really be inferred from that is that they want to be consistent with TFA’s downplaying of the episode numbers, but the fact that Disney isn’t squeamish about switching around the title of a film from before they acquired LFL gives me a small amount of hope that they’d be willing to walk back more the extreme Lucasisms in the future.

Related to all this (in that, I wonder what is even available for them to play at the event), does anyone know what version of the OT was played in those theatrical marathons when TFA released? I’ve been wondering if it was fairly new DCPs for the 2011 versions, or if they still have to theatrically distribute the '97 SEs.

They were DCP’s of the 2011 version, but somehow looked worse than the Blu-ray, my source tells me.

They probably just don’t resolve well blown up that large. They were telecined at just under 1080p, so blowing them up to like 40 feet across or whatever probably just didn’t work out too well. Another good reason why we need at least a new master, though Legacy would be preferable.

bkev said:

Credit where credit is due on the Watchmen soundtrack–it certainly made my day hearing the songs with lyrics featured as endquotes between issues in appropriate scenes.

The one thing that sticks out in that film to me is the opening credits. The rest I can take or leave.

Man, I think someone hacked your account.

moviefreakedmind said:

Lasz said:

one can hope but the fact that it says “a new hope” and not “Star Wars” may give some indication…

It will never be advertised as simply “Star Wars” ever again, regardless of which version. Even if they use the original poster art they’ll still mention that it’s ANH.

On a somewhat related note, I wonder how a hypothetical official release would “avoid the awkwardness.”

The GOUT did it by releasing the movies individually on dvd for the first time and then going “oh, and they just happen to also include the unaltered versions.”

We’re already past that point on blu-ray (the steelbooks), so I’m thinking Lucasfilm/Disney/Fox will simply wait until it’s time to release I-VI on 4k ultra hd blu-ray (I’m sure they’d put out regular blu-ray versions as well). Then they can call them “ultimate editions” or something to that effect, and be all like “oh, and they just happen to also include the unaltered versions,” even though they know damn well it’s the only reason most people would buy it. Maybe if we’re lucky we can get the theatrical prequels and the '97 versions thrown in as well.

Well, I think they were so coy about how they referred to the GOUT release originally for a few reasons, namely deflecting the backlash of selling an inferior product as the featured film, and not least of all George’s distaste for the version and not wanting to admit he was giving in at all (and possibly trying to win people over to his version by “quality” comparison alone). Disney, if they don’t put out anything as relatively shoddy, doesn’t have any need to save face, they can boldly pronounce that they are bringing back the version we’ve asked for and be the hero. At the same time they’ll be in a tough position on what to call it, considering how many (or, rather, few) people know and care about the title change from before it hit home video, but, at the same time, knowing what is right. If they want to be correct, they’ll revert completely to what was on film in '77, but their options are somewhat open as long as the rest of the film is fine, as they’ll still be the hero to the majority. If they do, in fact, do it right and use the original scroll, they can pretty easily compromise on the case/set naming if they include the 2011 version (even more fitting if they were “Bonus Discs”), as they could, without much conflict, say Episode IV and A New Hope to refer to the film in general while a version carrying that title is included. That would probably be the best, easiest route for them to go.

Fang Zei said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Lasz said:

one can hope but the fact that it says “a new hope” and not “Star Wars” may give some indication…

It will never be advertised as simply “Star Wars” ever again, regardless of which version. Even if they use the original poster art they’ll still mention that it’s ANH.

On a somewhat related note, I wonder how a hypothetical official release would “avoid the awkwardness.”

The GOUT did it by releasing the movies individually on dvd for the first time and then going “oh, and they just happen to also include the unaltered versions.”

We’re already past that point on blu-ray (the steelbooks), so I’m thinking Lucasfilm/Disney/Fox will simply wait until it’s time to release I-VI on 4k ultra hd blu-ray (I’m sure they’d put out regular blu-ray versions as well). Then they can call them “ultimate editions” or something to that effect, and be all like “oh, and they just happen to also include the unaltered versions,” even though they know damn well it’s the only reason most people would buy it. Maybe if we’re lucky we can get the theatrical prequels and the '97 versions thrown in as well.

Interesting points. But, unlike the GOUT laserdisc transfers, I think the project would just be too damn expensive to ignore on the marketing side of things due to “awkwardness”.

4k Theatrical Edition. Doesn’t get much simpler.