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detola said:

It’s funny, in germany the situation is totally different.
They added the episode Titel for the first time in the late 90s so most people knew it just as star wars… Back than if you called it “a new hope” most people just got confused.

I am not very emotional about the Titel I think it makes sense to add it trilogy wise so that every episode has its own Titel… But most of the time it is just star wars for me.

Yeah, same in Italy… In my Italian 1995 vhs edition the ANH title was added only to the side, in English and with a different font.
My parents still call it Star Wars (Guerre stellari) as they probably don’t know the ANH subtitle. In my language ANH (Una nuova speranza) is way too long, but given that Star Wars became the name of the whole franchise, usually I call it Episode 4. Btw, when I talk to my boyfriend who is a diehard fan of the OT like me, we call it just Guerre Stellari.

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I call it Star Wars and A New Hope interchangeably depending on the conversation, because I’m not a pedant.

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^Lol, is that from the Bad video? YOU AIN’T BAD, YOU AIN’T NOTHIN! I haven’t seen that in years and yet it’s still burned in my brain…and now it’s stuck in my head for the whole day.

I misread it as “I’m not a pendant.”

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I prefer to call it STAR WARS, being the original title and all. My friends and I dislike the New Hope title and have just resorted to referring to each film by episode number. So, I guess it’s just 4 to me…although 5 is definitely my favorite!

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sonicdivine said:

I prefer to call it STAR WARS, being the original title and all. My friends and I dislike the New Hope title and have just resorted to referring to each film by episode number. So, I guess it’s just 4 to me…although 5 is definitely my favorite!

Shouldn’t you call it 0 then, or maybe null?

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joshuar said:

I have the same issue with Raiders of the Lost Ark

Now that I ALWAYS call Raiders of the Lost Ark. Anyone can tell by the logo that it’s got something to do with Indiana Jones!

Ol’ George has the GOUT, I see.

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FrankT said:

joshuar said:

I have the same issue with Raiders of the Lost Ark

Now that I ALWAYS call Raiders of the Lost Ark. Anyone can tell by the logo that it’s got something to do with Indiana Jones!

I always call all of them by their title sans Indiana Jones at the beginning. Saying “Indiana Jones And The ________” is pointless. There’s no reason to double the length of a movie’s title just to clarify who the protagonist is.

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Due to my age, I became a Star Wars fan during the releases of the prequels. So, when I first watched them, I started referring to them by numbers, due to the strong presence of the Roman numerals in the prequel posters and the OT DVD covers. Then the Blu-Rays came out and I bought them to replace my pillarboxed DVDs. This is when I really became peeved at the SEs, due to the new changes which then made me look back and see what else had been changed, making me realize what a farce this all was. For purity’s sake and somewhat out of protest, I started referring to them as Star Wars, Empire, and Jedi, in other words becoming an SW old soul. So I never went through a “New Hope” phase. Today, I’m already to the point that I get annoyed and “correct” my friends when the say things like “the fourth one” or “episode 5,” and don’t you dare refer to it as “A New Hope” around me.

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I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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Even its Wikipedia page refers to it as simply Star Wars

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Wookieepedia was really overturned by the whole EU decanonizing debacle. All of the pages for stupid characters have no information on them, you have to click on a separate tab for the “legends” information. Technically all episode numbers need to be removed from the Wookieepedia titles since they are all advertised as Star Wars: title, with no episode numbers to speak of, which I love. They actually lied by saying TFA was titled Star Wars Episode VII the Force Awakens (while saying it was just marketed as Star Wars: The Force Awakens, which is not true). It’s nice that the TFN/Wookieepedia folks are not the target demographic for Star Wars products any longer.

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I am all for the removal of the numerals from the marketing of these movies. I wonder if Lucasfilm did it for the new repacakagings in an effort to put a stop to what is the ever more common practice of introducing kids to the prequels first and watching in episodic order. It always bugged me that the Blu-Ray release ordered the discs in episodic order in the digibook (does anyone know if this is still the case after the repackaged “Complete Saga”?). It almost seemed a ploy to get new viewers to watch Lucas’s “original vision” before the original movies.

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I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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I think it has more to do with drawing in new fans who maybe haven’t seen all of the other ones. If they put “Episode VII” front and center In the TFA marketing I could see how it might look kind of daunting for newbies. It made sense for the prequels because the same casual viewers might not have understood at the time where those fit in the timeline, but now that we’re moving forward again I think all that Disney is concerned with communicating is “this is the new one”.

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I don’t think we’ll ever see a Star Wars movie with the episode number at the forefront of the marketing campaign ever again.

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I make a point of only referring to the OT films as STAR WARS, The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. Interestingly and I’ve only just realised this but I tend to refer to the PT as Episodes 1, 2 & 3, rather than The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.

Thus far I’ve only referred to The Force Awakens as The Force Awakens.

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I think keeping the episode numbers prominent would be useful for differentiating between the main saga entries and the “Anthology” spinoffs, so I’m actually kind of surprised they’re basically doing away with them. Maybe they are kind of trying to discourage starting with Episode I. After all, if I knew absolutely nothing about Star Wars and popped in The Phantom Menace believing it was the first one, I would think it sucks and never watch another episode.

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If you look at the marketing for Rogue One-it’s marketed as ROGUE ONE, with “A Star Wars Story” in much smaller letters, whereas TFA was marketing as STAR WARS first. That seems to be how they’re differentiating them.

TV’s Frink said:

I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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suspiciouscoffee said:

FrankT said:

joshuar said:

I have the same issue with Raiders of the Lost Ark

Now that I ALWAYS call Raiders of the Lost Ark. Anyone can tell by the logo that it’s got something to do with Indiana Jones!

I always call all of them by their title sans Indiana Jones at the beginning. Saying “Indiana Jones And The ________” is pointless. There’s no reason to double the length of a movie’s title just to clarify who the protagonist is.

I saw billboard ads for Raiders, (for a live orchestra presentation) while I was away last weekend, and they’re still calling it that. : /
http://www.sanjose.org/events/raiders-of-the-lost-ark-live/

They’re probably stuck with the publicity materials Lucasfilm gives them though.

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SilverWook said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

FrankT said:

joshuar said:

I have the same issue with Raiders of the Lost Ark

Now that I ALWAYS call Raiders of the Lost Ark. Anyone can tell by the logo that it’s got something to do with Indiana Jones!

I always call all of them by their title sans Indiana Jones at the beginning. Saying “Indiana Jones And The ________” is pointless. There’s no reason to double the length of a movie’s title just to clarify who the protagonist is.

I saw billboard ads for Raiders, (for a live orchestra presentation) while I was away last weekend, and they’re still calling it that. : /
http://www.sanjose.org/events/raiders-of-the-lost-ark-live/

They’re probably stuck with the publicity materials Lucasfilm gives them though.

I have a t-shirt with the original poster on it and it has the original RAIDERS of the Lost Ark title, with no “Indiana Jones and the”. That being said it doesn’t bother me because they have left the original title in the film intact. When the opening credits come up as Indy is traversing the jungle it still just says “Raiders of the Lost Ark”.

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I call it Star Wars, or "the first Star Wars" (depending on who I’m talking to).

Some people I know still call it La Guerre des étoiles, which I find quite refreshing. After all the French logo at the beginning of the movie was used until 1999 (yes, for the SE too, but not for TPM). The 2004 DVD’s introduced the English logo with the French crawl (I guess that’s the same for all foreign versions with a translated crawl).

The “problem” that arose was the following one: From then on, how to officially name this movie? The 2004 DVD’s tried (look at the logo)… I’ve always found this title shitty and inconsistent as ESB and Jedi didn’t have that problem (litterally Star Wars: Star Wars A New Hope, seriously? And at the bottom of the back cover (below the X-Wings) it even says Star Wars, Épisode IV : La Guerre des étoiles Un nouvel espoir). The 2006 DVD’s corrected that however, and just titled it Star Wars: A New Hope (with the Roman numerals in the logo).

But as I said, it’ll always be just Star Wars to me :3

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I refer to it simply as “Star Wars” in most situations, just because that’s the name the movie had when I first watched it. So that’s what it’s called in my head. Anything else requires me to make some effort to translate.

The exceptions would be:

  • if I’m specifically referring to the fugged about with version
  • if it’s in the middle of a conversation about the wider Star Wars universe
    In both those cases, I’m likely to refer to it as “Star Wars - A New Hope”.

I never use the Episode IV bit; not for any principled reason, but just because Star Wars is too deeply embedded in my soul as “the first one”.