Yeah I never got why Luke and Leia having a trait passed down to them by their dad has to exclude anyone. You would think if it did they'd have the jedi banging each other all the time to produce the next generation. It'd be like Caligula in that council building.
Davnes007 said:
So....is all this BS going to be on the Blu-Rays?
Baronlando said:
Yeah I never got why Luke and Leia having a trait passed down to them by their dad has to exclude anyone. You would think if it did they'd have the jedi banging each other all the time to produce the next generation. It'd be like Caligula in that council building.
I can't be the only one who spotted this guy in Episode One, and thought the resemblance to Yoda was implying something! ;)
Where were you in '77?
Sluggo said:
Let's see if I remember this right (its been a LONG time since I've seen it)
They went to Tunisia to hide the disguised queen and to repair their SR-71.
Oh yeah. I forgot about Herslag being with them and the repairs. Man, for a middle of nowhere, desolate, sparsely inhabited planet - people sure seem to stumble onto Tatooine a lot.
A Long Time Ago In A Solar System Far, Far Away...
Anchorhead said:
Sluggo said:
Let's see if I remember this right (its been a LONG time since I've seen it)
They went to Tunisia to hide the disguised queen and to repair their SR-71.
Oh yeah. I forgot about Herslag being with them and the repairs. Man, for a middle of nowhere, desolate, sparsely inhabited planet - people sure seem to stumble onto Tatooine a lot.
A Long Time Ago In A Solar System Far, Far Away...
Meanwhile Spinal Tap still can't find Cleveland (in Cleveland).
xhonzi said:
It's a tarp!
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Anchorhead said:
Alexrd said:
There has to be something measurable to support those statements.
Why?
Because according to those statements, it's something that is inherited. Otherwise it wouldn't "run strong in his family".
ChainsawAsh said:
but it was never stated outright that only those whose ancestors were Force-users could become Force-users themselves.
That was never stated in the PT either. The Jedi pick children from some families because the children are Force-sensitive, not their parents (otherwise the parents themselves would have been picked as children). It still seems random, and therefore, mystical.
Just my opinion.
Qui Gon wanted to know who Anakin's father was though.
Where were you in '77?
"There was no father."
See? Mystical. ;-)
Alexrd said:
"There was no father."
See? Mystical. ;-)
Lucasfilm said:
In the beginning was the chosen one, and the chosen one was with the force, and the chosen one was the force. He was with Midichlorians in the beginning.
In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.
There came a man who was sent from the force; his name was Qui-gon. He came as a witness to testify concerning the chosen one, so that through him all species might believe. He himself was not the chosen one; he came only as a witness to the chosen one. The true light that gives light to every species was coming into the galaxy....
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Alexrd wrote:
it's something that is inherited. Otherwise it wouldn't "run strong in his family".
*** Seconds Later ***
The Jedi pick children from some families because the children are Force-sensitive, not their parents
Insert super special clause about sperm/egg midichloriean formation here.
The children thing they attempt to explain in the movies as children are easier to train. Control Control Children Are Easier To Control.
Alexrd said:
Anchorhead said:
Alexrd said:
There has to be something measurable to support those statements.
Why?
Because according to those statements, it's something that is inherited. Otherwise it wouldn't "run strong in his family".
I get the why there is a reason for some things. The why I was referencing is why the need to explain it at all?. He really doesn't get what make the movies bigger than life, fun, or special. He never has. He didn't understand the kiss for luck, the robot being afraid of Chewie, etc.
He doesn't have an inner child. He has an inner bad writer. We really don't need to know where 3PO was built. A service robot who stumbles into the story is enough. However, it turns out that he was built by one of the main characters when he was a kid - oh and while we're at it - on the same planet that several of the movies take place on 30 years later???. That's so fucking asinine, there aren't words for it. To me, it's laughable - but not in a good way.
This is a story that takes place over several decades, in a setting where people can travel through hyperspace to all parts of the vastness of space - yet Lucas can't seem to get the fucking characters out of one damn solar system. And on top of that, they're all somehow related to each other.
Father, son, daughter, brother, sister, aunt, uncle, other uncle, friend, clone, etc, etc, etc, with secondary characters being built by the main characters......
Absolutely zero imagination, zero depth, zero mystery, and a shocking level of universe-shrinking. He did the same thing with Indiana Jones in the first 15 minutes of Crusade. Why can't Indy just have a scar and wear a hat? Do we really need to have every fucking detail of his past explained and shown? I enjoyed his mysterious past. It made him much more interesting.
Or - if we do have to find out about the story behind the hat, the scar, the jacket, and the snakes - did they all have to happen on the same day, within a few minutes of each other??? What the fuck, George?
Lucas and his damn exposition. How about writing a bigger or different story instead of the continued shrinking of the same story every few years?
Anchorhead wrote: He doesn't have an inner child. He has an inner bad writer.
Oh he's got one, many works by him prove it. But for whatever reason George Lucas believes (believed, could be over somewhat) that 'Family' is the be all end all. He's said that the adoption of his kids revised how he looked at life. Before the children it was ok to ask questions about the existence of certain things, but he drew a line (on this issue) and the Family aspect became something he would proceed to proselytize and not question. His works/interviews show that. Star Wars which was about a varied number of things, all of a sudden it became about one person. Darth Vader Father. The psych people might weigh in that this could have been an unresolved issue with his real life father. After the car accident he had a falling out of grace with daddy-o, instead of taking over the family business he went into film making. After SW his life style financially became stable, he thought his marriage was stable, so that allowed him the opportunity to deal with this father thing. But consumed it, it did. So major aspects of real life (adopting kids) and creative exploits (DV) became father oriented. Or he's just capitalizing on a predominant feature of society. Or as the saying goes, write what you know.
In some odd way the midichlorean thing could be seen as a good sign, as he added in something which did leave something up in the air, the Force/Midichlorean debate is kind of unanswerable as it currently stands, in my opinion. Religion/Science. Faith/Observation.
While we are in the business of armchair psycho-analysis, George's father, rendered him bald (or as near as by practically shaving his hair off) and emotionally scarred by the resulting bullying which turned him into a loner obsessed with fast vehicles and technology.
After that he became a hero to some until he became obsessed with building and maintaining his personal empire after falling out with his well regarded wife.
It's easy to see why Vader would become the final focus of such an author.
I can't wait to see this documentary about his life on the Blu :p
TV's Frink said:
I can't wait to see this documentary about his life on the Blu :p
Who are you and what have you done with TV's?
The real Fink would never be trying this hard to keep things on topic.
You've never noticed this inconsistency about me? I only like off-topic when it interests me ;-)
You must be interested in about everything.
So... I still haven't decided if I want to get the blu-ray discs or not.
Anchorhead said:
A Long Time Ago In A Solar System Small Township Far, Far Away...
Fixed.
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Sluggo said:
You must be interested in about everything.
I see what you did there.
Bingowings said:
George's father, rendered him bald ...and emotionally scarred by the resulting bullying which turned him into a loner obsessed with fast vehicles and technology.
and beard growing. ;-)
he became a hero to some until he became obsessed with building and maintaining his personal empire after falling out with his well regarded wife.
It's easy to see why Vader would become the final focus of such an author.
I think you're right on the mark with that. The parallels are too big to be coincidence. Too bad, man. 1980 George may have been able to do some interesting things with Star Wars if he hadn't alienated everyone who had helped him get there.
Sluggo said:
... (if I was going after a cougar, that's what I'd do) ...
If?
Pfftt.
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
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Anchorhead said:
Bingowings said:
George's father, rendered him bald ...and emotionally scarred by the resulting bullying which turned him into a loner obsessed with fast vehicles and technology.
and beard growing. ;-)
Beards are a form of mask I suppose, I'm surprised they haven't banned them in France (especially for women).
It doesn't matter. 20 years from now will still be waiting for the OOT, and the SW franchise will be ten times shittier than it already is. I hate to repeat the same shit, but if it hits the nail right on the head it hits the head. The DVD format is fading away without a decent transfer of the OOT, which would have been unthinkable 15 years ago. BD will have the same fate, all because Lucas doesn't realize he is the worst thing to happen to SW. The real people who made the OT great were Gary Kurtz, Lawrence Kasdan, Marcia Lucas, Leigh Brackett, Irvin Kershner, and Harrsion Ford. Lucas and his army of loyal jihadists are the only people who don't realize this.
generalfrevious said:
I hate to repeat the same shit...
Oh how I wish this was true.