Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!) — Page 9

I don't know if three movies would be pushing the quality levels or not.  My CE3K blu-ray has the 3 versions on it and it looks great to me.

Going with the logic that CE3K successfully pulls off the 3 full movies on one disc, let's speculate on how 100gb would be divided up for Star Wars (ANH)

(Video-75gb : Audio-14gb : unclaimed-10gb)

Video A : 25gb : George's Current Version

Video B : 25gb : Theatrical

Video C : 25gb : Special Edition

Audio A : 2gb : George's Current Version

Audio A1 : 1gb : New Commentary

Audio B1 : 2gb : Theatrical 70mm

Audio B2 : 2gb : Theatrical 35mm

Audio C : 2gb : Special Edition

Audio C1 : 1gb : 2004 Commentary

Audio A1,B1,B2,C1 : 4gb : Isolated Music Scores

Additional Options : 5gb : ____________

(internal necessary bluray format files) : 5gb

If anyone's worked with the format, play with the numbers.  Otherwise, that's not much space left over to do much.  Could get a low quality doc. in that space.  Now in the minds of Lucasfilm, do you think they feel it's advantageous to go with 12 discs over 6, so that Documentaries can be added, as past DVDs have done, or would they eliminate the theatrical versions to have the set be 6 discs.  How do we show that the buying public is interested in have a complete all versions of the film + Bonus stuff.  The CE3K Sluggo mentioned is a two disc set and it's going for $20, that would make this SW set over $100-$120.  Although the Blade Runner (5 disc set) was originally $40.

Now in the minds of Lucasfilm, do you think they feel it's advantageous to go with 12 discs over 6, so that Documentaries can be added, as past DVDs have done, or would they eliminate the theatrical versions to have the set be 6 discs.

Ideally, they would see the logic in releasing both trilogies seperately, eliminating the need for 12 discs in one set.

I think if you have 100GB of space, the movie would just be less compressed. Usually the space taken by the film just expands to fill whatever new ceilings are offered. You could technically fit three versions of Star Wars on a DVD, it just wouldn't look very good. And you could do the same with Blu Ray now. While a 100GB disk would present pretty good quality even with three versions, next to other 100GB releases that don't need to fit three films on one disk it would look poorer, so you'd want to increase the file size of the film to fit the expanded ceiling.

Sluggo said:

Now in the minds of Lucasfilm, do you think they feel it's advantageous to go with 12 discs over 6, so that Documentaries can be added, as past DVDs have done, or would they eliminate the theatrical versions to have the set be 6 discs.

Ideally, they would see the logic in releasing both trilogies seperately, eliminating the need for 12 discs in one set.

Also eliminating the need to charge people for things they don't want.

Whatever happens and however good or bad this set will be George will make money, he's like Sebulba (ok he lost once and to a little brat but everyone loses once).

CE3K is a different story. The differences between the three versions are (mostly) editorial, which made it easy for them to branch all three onto the same disc.

For Star Wars, each version would need its own disc to properly do it justice. We would be insanely lucky to get three-disc versions for each of the OT movies ("current" version, '97, original), but let's just say it did happen. The lowry-restored (unless LFL decides to have that job completely redone) version would be on the first disc. The '97 version would be a on a second disc, mastered from the '97 IP. Finally, the original version would be on the third disc, mastered from its IP.

I wouldn't hold my breath for anything more than a two-disc set (not that many of us care about the most recent version) with the original theatrical version we've all been clamoring for.

Still gas huffing...

It will always be the worst case scenario within the worst case scenario.

You must be a blast at parties...

1. I never go to parties

2. Are you two talking about me? If so, what instances are you talking about?

bkev said:

Oh, he's just saying you're beyond pessimistic.

Exactly.

I am a cut scene junkie (I used to have my own cut scenes website) so if there is a decent amount of cut material, I will probably bite.  I just hope that the folks at LFL don't try to 'finish' the scenes like they did in the prequel DVD's.  Imagine a ronto stepping on a Jawa in front of Tosche Station as Luke and Biggs are talking.

I wonder if the next Star Wars DVD release will be as a "combo" with the Blu-Ray?

I guess whichever he thinks can make the most money...

Don't have HD equipment, so I won't be buying it, and frankly I'd wait anyway if I were you folks. A six movie box set WILL NOT be the last BD release, guaranteed. Even if they call it "limited edition," don't believe the hype.

If they do include the version of the movies you want hidden within the set, realize this: you will eventually be able to buy those discs separately, through ebay or amazon, regardless of what official sets come out later. And you can rent them ahead of time via Netflix (since you don't rent a box set all at once, but disc by disc at your discretion).

It doesn't matter to me what else is included.   If the OOT is on there, fully restored in HD, I WILL buy it.  Not only because I want it, but also to show Lucasfilm that I support their efforts to restore & release the OOT in high quality.

Just like how I won't buy it if it doesn't contain a fully restored OOT.  Not only do I not want it, but I'm showing Lucasfilm (with my wallet, the only thing they seem to listen to) that I do NOT support the further suppression of the OOT.

So how much would you pay for it? If it were a new DVD box set, it would probably run $90 (plus tax/shipping). So I'd guess at least $100 (before tax/shipping) for something like this... assuming it's a confirmed "six movie set."

I understand the whole "voting with your wallet" thing, but you could just put a dent in the sales figure and wait six months to pay half price (for just the originals). I can virtually guarantee that the movies will be available either as two trilogies or as individual movies not far in the future after this release. What other movies out there are ONLY ever released as a full series box set? There are actually very few fans who liked all six movies that much to buy them all on the premium format in one shot.

But in the end... your choice, your money, I guess.

Sadly, because we fans always act like each release is our "only chance" and run out to buy it like chumps, we just keep confirming Lucas marketing's belief that we'll buy anything...

I know it's "hard to resist" and not be one of the kids on your block to own it first, but let's face it. We've got Netflix (and that blockbuster home thing) now, so you can "preview" it before you buy, legally.

doubleofive said:

Who in their right mind is going to sell the OOT versions separately, or the OT at all? "Man, I bought this giant Blu-ray set, but I only wanted the prequels! Maybe somebody online wants the crappy old ones..."

;-)

Because not everyone with spare cash is as cool as us, and there are people who know that market exists.

It's the same reason why people sold the Bonus Disc from the 2004 set separately. Why not keep that, since it was never featured in another set?

But, crazy as it may seem, the predicament you describe would be the same for the Prequel lovers as it would the OT lovers. Or people buy something then realize they need the cash and sell them off. If they knew they could get more money that way, they might try it.

Hey, we can hope, right? ;) I've seen pieces of box sets sold separately before.