bkev said:
Hence stock-footage. It wasn't shot for the purposes of the scene, unlike occasional SE shots (such as Boba Fett in the new Jabba scene).
Sorry, a termal.. terminal.. I mean, terminological misunderstanding - I now get it ;)
Baronlando said:
Even if the changes were better, ultimately, the most distracting thing is just the ever-present knowledge that this guy can't be bothered to do something so incredibly basic when selling his product. With all the hard work and effort many other people do to put out the best possible value for your bucks, that is some feeble shit, who wants to support that? (Seriously, right now, people are scouring the earth, looking in vaults for years at a time, following paper trails, hunched over in a lab, to make a great transfer of some movie you've never heard of that'll sell about 62 copies.)
Hey, I agree.
Anyone disagree? Step right up! :D
twooffour said:
Hah! I actually looked up that article after i made the comment.
While we're on the subject, why is it that the Stormtroopers have a constant de niro face on?
Unfortunately, the copies submitted to LOC for copyright won't be useful when the films become public domain. I doubt they even have proper film storage procedures for those (i.e. temperature, humidity control), they probably just put the cans in a box in a room. In fact, they probably are completely red right now and will never be useful for anything, even today. ROTJ might have been printed on LPP low-fade since it was introduced in 1982, but even if it was those are still not as reliable as people say, and they were only ever said to last for 75 years or so, which is less than a full copyright term anyway. Other than the Technicolor print and a handful of LPP prints, release prints of at least SW and ESB aren't archival and probably ceased being viewable or salvageable some time in the 1990s.
People who visit the LOC archives and found what you assume, degraded prints and signs of faulty archiving, might have begun spreading word of this problem. Maybe they have, maybe they haven't, were not tapped into that community. (general searches "LOC +problem +film +archives" at first glance doesn't bring up something noticable) You might be right that what they thought was proper preservation in 1985 has turned out to be not enough in 2010. But let's go find people in the know who have seen the problem first hand, before jumping to the conclusion. In the recent conversation with Mr. Leggett of the LOC they were moving their archives to a better climated and more secure facility. Yes government can seem ill-equiped at times, but these people are knowledgeable of their field and understand the magnitude of their job, they are preserving culture more then most other organizations. On the issue of what happens to LOC works when they enter the public domain, it doesn't sound like they know what will happen. but the purpose of saving the works is so that people can see them, make sense that once public domain sets in, works will be loaned or digitized for companies to profit from or organizations will be granted access to make them available.
We need to nail down many of these assumptions to add weight to the arguments behind SaveStarWars.com. It's nice to blow up the issue to rally the troops but it might not pan out that way.
Quackula said:
Call me strange, but I'd actually really like it if we got a standalone release of the OOT on blu-ray without the SEs included.
No chance at all. Personally, I think that what could be done is release it only in some giant, mega-priced boxed set. That'd actually probably make sense from a financial perspective, simply because he knows the OOT clique have enough interest that some of them might buy it. While even if the OOT did come out, I would intensely scrutinize the Internet to make sure it was not messed up in any way, if it was released properly, I would pay virtually ANY price for it. I try to tell myself that since the GOUT has been in the bestsellers list on Amazon for almost 550 days, there is at least pretty significant interest in it (though it's below the new BR set), maybe that means something, but I doubt it.
“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”
Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death
http://www.highdefdigest.com/blog/star-wars-poll/
Rock the vote!
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
i voted "Not until Lucasfilm restores the original, unaltered versions of the first trilogy" currently 2nd place. Do you think this will have any impact what-so-ever?
I voted for that too, we all should, even if it's not true ;-)
20th Century Mark said:
i voted "Not until Lucasfilm restores the original, unaltered versions of the first trilogy" currently 2nd place. Do you think this will have any impact what-so-ever?
No, not really. But it's fun to vote. Too bad the poll isn't on StarWars.com or Lucasfilm.com or fox.com.
Hmmm...
Maybe someone should challenge them to putting a similar poll on their pages. Maybe someone in the media.
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
Done. (And in my case, it's definitely true.)
Harmy said:
I voted for that too, we all should, even if it's not true ;-)
I didn't read carefully enough and voted for "I won't buy anything!" because I didn't realize that there were fanatasy options provided.
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
ChainsawAsh said:
Done. (And in my case, it's definitely true.)
^Ditto.
Every 27th customer will get a ball-peen hammer, free!
Will You Buy 'Star Wars' on Blu-ray?
49%.
*sigh*
One's very sad and the other is very... odd.
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
I can see buying just the prequel trilogy....
Several people have stated intentions to re-do (or do in the first place) prequel fan edits using the Blu footage. Theoretically you should own the Blu if you want to download those future edits, and if you have no use for the current OT on Blu (say, you only want to watch dark_jedi's GOUT sourced OT), there wouldn't be any reason to buy all six.
Unless you want the super secret bonus 9th disc, of course.
But these aren't fan editors, these are just idiots.
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
I'm not a fan editor eith--
...
I see what you did there.
Harmy said:
I voted for that too, we all should, even if it's not true ;-)
ChainsawAsh said:
Done. (And in my case, it's definitely true.)
Sorry, bad grammar, I meant "even if it wasn't true", because unless I can get them really cheap (like second hand or sth) I won't be buying them either.
Ah, that makes more sense. I may pick them up used sometime down the road as well, but Lucasfilm certainly won't be getting a dime from me.
The first transport- is away.
It's down to 48%.
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
It's early for me to vote, since there's little info, in the extremely unlikely case that we get a new transfer and the colors are fixed I may be tempted to buy the OT even in the horrible SE version. Or perhaps the bonus stuff will be too tempting to resist, but we don't know yet.
99% chance I won't buy any of the sets though.
The avalanche has already begun....
Why would someone only want the PT? And why would someone buy something they know they're not going to be happy about?
For those of you who are about to rock the vote, I salute you.
