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^Well my head says yes, but my heart ... says yes.
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Was that outburst really necessary?
Where were you in '77?
Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!) — Page 314
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none said:
Made a stupid DVD, sent them copies, they never replied.
So what was on the DVD?
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DuracellEnergizer said:
Mielr said:
Oh, wait, is this the KenKraly thread? ;-)
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I'm surprised GL didn't add a little digital braid to Luke's hair in ROTJ. ;-P
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Mielr said:
I'm surprised GL didn't add a little digital braid to Luke's hair in ROTJ. ;-P
Don't give him any ideas!
I remember publicly commenting on the Star Wars newsgroup after AOTC came out about how Boba Fett's accent didn't match the voice in TESB. And we all know what George did after that.
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Does George Lucas even read these posts? I wouldn't think he would spend any time here.
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generalfrevious wrote: Does George Lucas even read these posts?
Yes, he does often, he pops in tells us wonderful things about his franchise, goes by the name of
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georgec said:
kenkraly2007 said:
that's your opinion georgec.
Actually it's quite well-documented fact. Here are some great articles:
http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/marcialucas.html
http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/beyondgeorgelucas.html
http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/conversationswithleighbrackett.html
http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2010/08/12/star-wars-was-born-a-long-time-ago-but-not-all-that-far-far-away-in-1972-filmmakers-george-lucas-and-gary-kurtz-wer/
Kurtz, Burtt, Tippet, they've all been making comments in the last year or so with subtle jabs at Lucas' greed and lack of integrity.
Lucas has taken the cheap, lazy route with giving SW the best treatment and his lies continue to grow. I can't blame him, as many SW fans are self-loathing and will buy his products even if they disagree with their content/quality. Lucas has many SW fans by the nuts.
I think it's mostly the kids. Lets face it, most kids don't care what version they're watching and most parents buy them floods of tie-in stuff to see the kids smile. What're OOT fans going to do, go to parents and say "Hey, I know it makes your kid happy, but stop supporting revisionist history?" You can hardly blame them if they'd rather see a smiling child. There's no way we're going to make a dent in the multibillion dollar franchise. I've just decided to stop deluding myself. We fought against a giant, and we got crushed. Game set. Matched.
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Mielr said:
So, I wonder how many of these BD sets have sold now? I wonder if the sales have dropped significantly since the first week of release.
When I was going through the flyers in this Sunday's newspaper, I didn't see one single ad for the set- not in Target, Wal-Mart, Best Buy, etc. You'd think they'd still be pushing it since it's only been out a couple of weeks.
Too lazy to do the math myself - not too lazy to dig up a few sources for the amount of dough LFL raked in so far:
deadline.com: http://www.deadline.com/2011/09/star-wars-complete-saga-on-blu-ray-breaks-global-sales-records/" target="_blank" title="deadline.com: ‘Star Wars: The Complete Saga’ On Blu-Ray Breaks Worldwide Sales Records">‘Star Wars: The Complete Saga’ On Blu-Ray Breaks Worldwide Sales Records
movies.com: http://www.movies.com/movie-news/39star-wars39-blu-ray-sales-breaks-records-globally-despite-fan-outcry/4639" target="_blank" title="movies.com: 'Star Wars' Blu-ray Sales Breaks Records Globally Despite Fan Outcry">'Star Wars' Blu-ray Sales Breaks Records Globally Despite Fan Outcry
movies.yahoo.com: http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/the-projector/boycott-star-wars-blu-rays-worked-oh-wait-193019509.html" target="_blank" title="movies.yahoo.com: Your Boycott of the ‘Star Wars’ Blu-Rays Worked! Oh, Wait, No, It Didn’t at All">Your Boycott of the ‘Star Wars’ Blu-Rays Worked! Oh, Wait, No, It Didn’t at All
I know that the BD sets sold very well the first week, I'm just wondering if they're still selling well or if the sales have dropped off significantly. The sales could actually end up being disappointing if the fanboys all bought it the first week, but if the more casual fans heard the internet chatter and decided not to buy, when they normally would have bought it a few weeks or months after the release.
http://www.deadline.com/2011/09/star-wars-complete-saga-on-blu-ray-breaks-global-sales-records/" target="_blank" title="deadline.com: ‘Star Wars: The Complete Saga’ On Blu-Ray Breaks Worldwide Sales Records">‘Star Wars: The Complete Saga’ On Blu-Ray Breaks Worldwide Sales Records movies.com: http://www.movies.com/movie-news/39star-wars39-blu-ray-sales-breaks-records-globally-despite-fan-outcry/4639" target="_blank" title="movies.com: 'Star Wars' Blu-ray Sales Breaks Records Globally Despite Fan Outcry">'Star Wars' Blu-ray Sales Breaks Records Globally Despite Fan Outcry movies.yahoo.com: http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/the-projector/boycott-star-wars-blu-rays-worked-oh-wait-193019509.html" target="_blank" title="movies.yahoo.com: Your Boycott of the ‘Star Wars’ Blu-Rays Worked! Oh, Wait, No, It Didn’t at All">Your Boycott of the ‘Star Wars’ Blu-Rays Worked! Oh, Wait, No, It Didn’t at All I know that the BD sets sold very well the first week, I'm just wondering if they're still selling well or if the sales have dropped off significantly. The sales could actually end up being disappointing if the fanboys all bought it the first week, but if the more casual fans heard the internet chatter and decided not to buy, when they normally would have bought it a few weeks or months after the release.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/movies-tv/ref=sv_mov_1">http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/movies-tv/ref=sv_mov_1
First guess is no. Still selling off the shelves.
“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”
Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death
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Keep Circulating the Tapes.
END OF LINE
(It hasn’t happened yet)
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Tyrphanax said:
What does that signify?
“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”
Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death
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Mike O said:
Tyrphanax said:
What does that signify?
It's showing that not all the fans are easy to please meat puppets.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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If they bought it then that's academic.
“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”
Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death
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Er, did you actually click on the title in that link?
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Hey George, why not add the NONONO Cat to your next upgrade?
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"Discussion" with some "fan" from blu-ray.com
Moviefan2k4
Unrestored laserdisc masters of the OT's theatrical versions were included as bonus material on the 2006 "Limited Edition" DVDs. Within a very short time frame, fans started bickering, even after sending so many years demanding unaltered versions, which is exactly what they got
Me
No, it is not.
Please, stop it. Laserdisc from 1993 on DVD in 2006 from a company, which once cared about quality? This is what the fans wanted? No. Would you be happy, if you would get upscaled DVD version of SE on Blu-ray Disc with compressed sound? They didn't even transfer the PCM track from Laserdisc on DVD. They used just heavily compressed DS 2.0
But we are talking here about company, which can't even get SE right...
The funny thing about quality of OUT is, that it is still possible for it to look better than SE. The 2004 and 2011 versions of OT are stuck in 1080p resolution (1997 on 2k) , when with OUT you can still get 4k scans.
Moviefan2k4
Truth be told, the majority of purists clamoring for "unaltered" versions don't realize what they're asking for, in the strictest sense. If Lucas were to release a truly unaltered version of the OT, it would be grainy, dirty, color-drained, and the sound would be seriously degraded. That's what "unaltered" means: not changed.
That's why I think a new term really needs to be invented, or maybe even have folks describe what they want in detail...but that would require contemplation, rational thinking, and overall objectivity, all three of which are sorely lacking in much of the "purist" community. If people want cleaned, restored, and updated video or audio for the theatrical OT films, that's fine; more power to ya. But don't stand around, constantly saying you want them "unaltered". Those who use that term are basically hanging themselves with it.
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Kenkraly about this site:
Those trolls at originaltrilogy.com are mean and disrespectfull.
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By unaltered we mean none of this:
Is that so hard?
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Star Wars Visual Comparisons WordPress
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Everybody loves rontobutt.
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Truth be told, the majority of purists clamoring for "unaltered" versions don't realize what they're asking for, in the strictest sense. If Lucas were to release a truly unaltered version of the OT, it would be grainy, dirty, color-drained, and the sound would be seriously degraded. That's what "unaltered" means: not changed.
This guy's got his terms wrong: "grainy, dirty, colour-drained with the sound seriously degraded" isn't unaltered but unrestored. And seeing as how we call for a restoration of the unaltered version, I don't see how anyone could be confused.
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Despecialized Editions MUST NEVER BE BOUGHT OR SOLD!!! You can find all the info you need here
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I would hope not everyone on that site validates comedian Ron White's famous observation. ;)
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To equate restoration and cleaning with alteration, especially adding CGI to 28+ year old movies, is nothing short of insane.
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That's why I think a new term really needs to be invented, or maybe even have folks describe what they want in detail...but that would require contemplation, rational thinking, and overall objectivity, all three of which are sorely lacking in much of the "purist" community. If people want cleaned, restored, and updated video or audio for the theatrical OT films, that's fine; more power to ya. But don't stand around, constantly saying you want them "unaltered". Those who use that term are basically hanging themselves with it. 
Geez what a tool. Its so simple, all we want is the OUT given the same clarity and sound treatment as the SE's and blurays
"There's no cluster of midiclorians that controls my destiny!" -Han Solo, from a future revision of ANH
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Harmy said:
<span style="color: #fafafa; font-family: verdana, geneva, arial, helvetica, 'sans serif'; line-height: 13px; background-color: #545b6e;">Truth be told, the majority of purists clamoring for "unaltered" versions don't realize what they're asking for, in the strictest sense. If Lucas were to release a truly unaltered version of the OT, it would be grainy, dirty, color-drained, and the sound would be seriously degraded. That's what "unaltered" means: <span style="text-decoration: underline;">not changed</span>.</span>
This guy's got his terms wrong: "grainy, dirty, colour-drained with the sound seriously degraded" isn't unaltered but unrestored. And seeing as how we call for a restoration of the unaltered version, I don't see how anyone could be confused.
They're not confused, just self-deluded.
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The less cross-posting or discussion of blu-ray.com, the better. We have kenkraly as our official br.com delegate- that is sufficient!
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I see that argument all the time. It is a combination of ignorant and stupid. Ignorant because they don't know that film is actually very high resolution and properly restored should look fabulous, and stupid because they haven't stopped for 2 seconds to wonder why the Wizard of Oz, Gone with the Wind, etc., come from even older film and DON'T look like crap.
"Close the blast doors!"
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