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kenkraly2007 said:


Now I do like the original cut's of the original trilogy but my preface are the special editions because those are the ones I saw in the theaters and their is nothing wrong with that.


Then shouldn't you be compaigning for a DVD/Blu release of the SE '97 instead of drinking the Lucasfilm Kool-Aid every time George offers you a glass?

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DuracellEnergizer said:

 

kenkraly2007 said:


Now I do like the original cut's of the original trilogy but my preface are the special editions because those are the ones I saw in the theaters and their is nothing wrong with that.


Then shouldn't you be compaigning for a DVD/Blu release of the SE '97 instead of drinking the Lucasfilm Kool-Aid every time George offers you a glass?

 

Didn't you hear? True SW fans are the ones that take whatever Lucas graciously bestows upon them unquestionably.

“Grow up. These are my Disney's movies, not yours.”

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Enough of the GL bashing. Seriously is that all some of you do? If it was not for GL their would not be anything star wars. After all he is the one created the whole saga. We need to at least respect the fact he did made these films and not bash him everytime he makes a change to the films. But everyone has a right to their opinion about the changes to the films some like them some don't.

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We all respect GL for what he envisioned and helped create, but to give him credit alone is inaccurate. He had plenty of help, and when he got rid of that help and had complete creative control the result was the prequels (and all the awful SE changes).

The man is out of control and lost his marbles a long time ago.

“Grow up. These are my Disney's movies, not yours.”

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It is the opinion of anyone with a functioning brain stem.

“Anakin had those qualities so rarely seen, exuding an unmistakable confidence and yet still able to touch one’s heart in simply knowing how he was so flawed… wounded.”

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kenkraly2007 said:

that's your opinion georgec.

Actually it's quite well-documented fact. Here are some great articles:

http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/marcialucas.html

http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/beyondgeorgelucas.html

http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/conversationswithleighbrackett.html

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2010/08/12/star-wars-was-born-a-long-time-ago-but-not-all-that-far-far-away-in-1972-filmmakers-george-lucas-and-gary-kurtz-wer/

Kurtz, Burtt, Tippet, they've all been making comments in the last year or so with subtle jabs at Lucas' greed and lack of integrity.

Lucas has taken the cheap, lazy route with giving SW the best treatment and his lies continue to grow. I can't blame him, as many SW fans are self-loathing and will buy his products even if they disagree with their content/quality. Lucas has many SW fans by the nuts.

“Grow up. These are my Disney's movies, not yours.”

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kenkraly2007 said:

Enough of the GL bashing. Seriously is that all some of you do? If it was not for GL their would not be anything star wars. After all he is the one created the whole saga. We need to at least respect the fact he did made these films and not bash him everytime he makes a change to the films. But everyone has a right to their opinion about the changes to the films some like them some don't.

In all due respect: Being fond of StarWars doesn't automagically mean I have to be fond of it's creator(s) as well.

And when you talk about the necessity of appreciation - you make it sound like a one-way street... what about Lucas appreciating compassion for the theatrical cuts? At last that's the very thing that put him where he is today.

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kenkraly2007 said:

Enough of the GL bashing. Seriously is that all some of you do? If it was not for GL their would not be anything star wars. After all he is the one created the whole saga. We need to at least respect the fact he did made these films and not bash him everytime he makes a change to the films. But everyone has a right to their opinion about the changes to the films some like them some don't.

Ken, did you know that...

The sound for those little video clips of all 6 films on the star wars youtube channel just don't sound right. The little video clips on the starwars aficionado blogspot site and on the walmart site sound so much better. Those audio from those youtube clips will not be how it will sound when the final blu-ray's come out in September.

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kenkraly2007 said:

Enough of the GL bashing. Seriously is that all some of you do? If it was not for GL their would not be anything star wars. After all he is the one created the whole saga. We need to at least respect the fact he did made these films and not bash him everytime he makes a change to the films. But everyone has a right to their opinion about the changes to the films some like them some don't.

GL bashing?  Drama queen much?

This whole site was created out of the frustration of changes made to a once cinematic masterpiece.  Being angry at that change is who we are.  Pouting out your opinion, and expecting us to be quiet about ours is not going to happen.

I'll say this again... If you truly love something you would not want it changed. 

Galatians 2: 20: I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

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We might as well try to cash in on all of the GL love.   GL action figures? Maybe invest in some GL P.J.s, flannel underoos, 'er something. 

OK... to be clear... I am not bashing GL.  Just those who mindlessly support him. :)

Galatians 2: 20: I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

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I can't help but suspect Ken is really one of us and is posting all these hilarious posts to highlight just how silly the extreme Lucas devotees are (as if we needed reminding).
He has a Facebook where he does the same thing, if it is a joke, its a very serious one.

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And 5 star amazon.com reviews before the box set came out. And reviews elsewhere. And posts on blu-ray talking about the trolls at OT.com... and possibly EVERYWHERE ELSE. I prefer people apathetic to us than those who pretend to care that really don't. Or maybe I just dislike flipfloppers who just want to be liked.

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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Or maybe I just dislike flipfloppers who just want to be liked.

A-ha!  That's why he keeps coming back here, hoping that we will finally like him.

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Ken, you actually seem like a kind and gentle person, so let me try, just this once, to explain something...

There are many things in this world that I recognize as being wrong that I am not passionate enough about to protest.  For instance, it's wrong how chicken farms treat chickens by stuffing them into tiny cages just so we can have cheap chicken nuggets.  There are people protesting that, and they're right.  But for me personally, there are are only so many hours in the day and I have to pick my priorities, and I have to admit I enjoy eating chicken nuggets.  So if I were to see a group of people protesting about the treatment of chickens, I wouldn't join the protest and I wouldn't stop eating chicken nuggets, but I also wouldn't fight against the protesters either because I know that what they are asking for has merit.  If someone came up to me when I was eating a chicken nugget and said "hey, don't you realize you're eating a tortured chicken?", I'd have to say something like "yeah, I know, it's probably wrong, I'm sorry but I don't want to deal with that right now."  What I WOULDN'T do is try to convince the person that the treatment of chickens is OK, just because I like chicken nuggets, and start up a facebook page about how stupid the protesters were, just so I could feel better about my own decision to eat chicken nuggets.

I suspect you kinda fall into that camp.  You too would like to see the OOT restored/preserved, but you enjoy the SEs and so it's just not a fight you're passionate about joining.  That's totally fine!  But where we have trouble with you, is that you try and convince us to stop fighting for it, and you tell others how stupid we are to fight for it. That's what I don't understand about the Lucas apologists.  We really are on the same side as you... we love Star Wars and we want everyone to be able to enjoy it.  We don't want the SE eliminated, and so we don't understand why some fans will actively resist our efforts to bring the original version back - that makes it seem that on some level you must be in favor of the originals being eliminated.

So you are free to not join our efforts and our protests... we understand that not everyone is that passionate about this specific thing.  But by the same token, don't actively fight and argue against our protest - we're really all on the same side.

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Now I want to go to McDonalds.  

Galatians 2: 20: I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

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He actually didnt say that he agrees with it, just that he goes along with it.


If he goes along with it, he has compromised his beliefs.  Plus, he said "the world has changed."  What the frink is that supposed to mean?
I think he's making a subtle allusion to the first line of a film trilogy that put George's prequels to shame.

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I wish some of you would stop calling star wars fans who go to websites like TFN or relbelsum.com Lucas apologists their good sources for star wars news of all of kinds. So just  because we support anything GL does where called  Lucas apologists?

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kenkraly2007 said:

So just  because we support anything GL does where called  Lucas apologists?

This is EXACTLY what makes you a Lucas apologist.

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kenkraly2007 said:

So just  because we support anything GL does where called  Lucas apologists?

Yes. It's unwavering devotion without thought.

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kenkraly2007 said:

...So just  because we support anything GL does where called  Lucas apologists?

You just can't make this stuff up.  This guy is a genius.  Props!

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Puggo, that's a great analogy. Actually, I went through a phase a couple years ago where I didn't eat chicken for close to a year after seeing the way they are treated thanks to some hidden cameras. I was so disgusted and upset I literally couldn't eat chicken for months, but eventually I started missing it when everbody else around me was enjoying it. When people asked why I wasn't eating chicken, I would tell them , but it seemed to bother nobody.

Anyways, I just don't see why so many people have a problem with us wanting the OT restored. That's all that we've been wanting to see done for years.

 

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TV's Frink said:


kenkraly2007 said:
So just  because we support anything GL does where called  Lucas apologists?

This is EXACTLY what makes you a Lucas apologist.
Wow.

That's all I can say.

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