Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!) — Page 220

I hate to say it, but, in all seriousness, I think LucasFilm does know its consumer base.  Granted, it's also responsible for creating this consumer base, so it's a vicious circle... but in the home video industry, the goal is to persuade consumers to buy what they've already bought before.  And for a fanbase that's largely as crazy as George, they actually get off on buying the movies repeatedly just to see what batshit insane, completely pointless changes have happened this time!  I mean, I can just imagine the nerds sitting around now, scruitinizing pictures going, "Ooooooh, look at those rocks around R2 now!  That's new!"

So... yeah, basically what we're doing, only happier about it. =P

That bloody Jabbas door shot is horrendous. They didn't even bother to add any lens distortion to it. It just looks flat. Must have took them a good few hours to create that shot. ;)

I really don't care about additional changes because what's two changes or two hundred? And it's an interesting oddity and the unintentional hilarity resulting is awesome.

But I rhetorically ask why?

What magnificent new technology was created in the last seven years that allowed George to add eyelids to Wicket? Did this lack of blinking ewok creating technology in 2004 prevent George from achieving his original vision and finally completing his masterpiece?

It's all pretty fucking pointless. These are old movies, let them be old movies.

And thanks for all the clips and screencaps. I weep for Adywan having to do this. That Krayt Dragon was as horrible today as it was when you posted it months ago.

adywan said:

That bloody Jabbas door shot is horrendous. They didn't even bother to add any lens distortion to it. It just looks flat. Must have took them a good few hours to create that shot. ;)

dont mention the repeated texture and details on the door ;)

-Angel

And they have added a bloody Dug into jabbas Palace walking down the steps. Definitely forcing the prequels down our throats

Does this phrase have a place in this conversation?

Princess Leia said (sorta):

The more you tighten your grip screw with the OT, Lucas, the more star systems fans will slip through your fingers. 

Gaffer Tape said:

I hate to say it, but, in all seriousness, I think LucasFilm does know its consumer base.  Granted, it's also responsible for creating this consumer base, so it's a vicious circle... but in the home video industry, the goal is to persuade consumers to buy what they've already bought before.  And for a fanbase that's largely as crazy as George, they actually get off on buying the movies repeatedly just to see what batshit insane, completely pointless changes have happened this time!  I mean, I can just imagine the nerds sitting around now, scruitinizing pictures going, "Ooooooh, look at those rocks around R2 now!  That's new!"

Yeah, you're probably right.  Sure, we here are laughing (and crying) at the changes, but I dare not visit TFN, BR.com or SW.com, because I imagine in more populous places like those, everyone is rebounding off the walls with glee over all the "improvements".  Next they'll be scoffing at us for not appreciating all the great work that went into these disks.  I really don't care to witness that, and am just grateful to be here and that this tiny den of sanity exists.

Our best hope is that some of GL's peers in the movie industry will start openly criticizing what he's doing... then the throngs of sheep might start bending back in the right direction.  Until then, I agree that there is no point in carrying any illusions that the general public will have the slightest appreciation of what is going on.

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Our best hope is that some of GL's peers in the movie industry will start openly criticizing what he's doing... then the throngs of sheep might start bending back in the right direction.  Until then, I agree that there is no point in carrying any illusions that the general public will have the slightest appreciation of what is going on.

Spielberg said it best:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/49921

Steven Spielberg: George goes his own way and I respect him for it, but my new philosophy about this is to let sleeping dogs lie.

Quint: That’s great news for film geeks. Anybody who appreciates film, that's like music to their ears.

Steven Spielberg: When people ask me which E.T. they should look at, I always tell them to look at the original 1982 E.T. If you notice, when we did put out E.T. we put out two E.T.s. We put out the digitally enhanced version with the additional scenes and for no extra money, in the same package, we put out the original ‘82 version. I always tell people to go back to the ’82 version.

Quint: Having the option is the big deal for me. Using the Star Wars example, I don’t think there’d be an outcry if we could watch a nice transfer of the original versions. We’d be like, “George can do what he wants and I’ll watch it… but you know maybe the fans would like the option of watching the movie they fell in love with, too.”

Steven Spielberg: Yeah. And I think the other good thing is that they understand when they see a movie and they suddenly see something that could have been done much better today and could have been corrected in the DVD/Blu-Ray transfer, they really appreciate seeing the strings attached.

If somebody put out George Pal’s War of the Worlds and took the strings off the machines I’d be very upset. When that machine crashes in downtown Hollywood, and you see the strings going from taut to slack, that’s the thing that allows me to both understand this movie is scaring the hell out of me and at the same time this movie is a creation of the human race.

That little taut-to-slack moment of those wires on that wingtip makes the original George Pal War of the Worlds work for me. It embraces my fears and it also alleviates them in the same breath.

Oh, geez, I'd forgotten about that!  It probably is then.  Sigh...

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Yeah, you're probably right.  Sure, we here are laughing (and crying) at the changes, but I dare not visit TFN, BR.com or SW.com, because I imagine in more populous places like those, everyone is rebounding off the walls with glee over all the "improvements".  Next they'll be scoffing at us for not appreciating all the great work that went into these disks.  I really don't care to witness that, and am just grateful to be here and that this tiny den of sanity exists.

Actually, over at tfn , i've been surprised by just how many hate these changes, same over at BR.com. A lot are still in denial and think these rips are fake (i've even had emails and PMs with threats from people who are convinced they are fake and that i have something to do with it), and a lot are saying that the changes are the best thing since sliced bread, but there are many many people who are outraged at these changes, people that at one point were all for whatever GL does to the films "because they are his vision".

Oh  and has anyone noticed that a certain person seems to have disappeared off the face of the Earth. I would have thought that with all this talk of the leaked blu-rays and all the details coming out he would be shouting it from the top of the world in every place that even mentions Star Wars.  Very strange indeed.........

If these additions turn out to be true I will be cancelling my BR order and leaving a scathing one star review on Amazon.

Diego said:

adywan said:

And they have added a bloody Dug into jabbas Palace walking down the steps. Definitely forcing the prequels down our throats

 

A Dug? As in fucking Sebulba? 

And after what they did to poor Wicket, those rumors about Jabba being "digitally more expressive" or whatever shit it was could very well be true.

I haven't got ROTJ yet but someone posted a video of it over on facebook. I'm just about to start watching ESB now. Wish me luck......

If you don't hear from me in the next few days i've probably died from excessive projectile vomiting. lol

The Aluminum Falcon said:

Wait, I just had a thought. It isn't possible that that awful Obi-Wan call is Matthew Wood vocalizing is it? He said he was going to be in every movie...

The thought had certainly crossed my mind...