Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!) — Page 199

adywan said:

With all this talk about the colour timing changed, has it been confirmed that they are actually talking about the Original trilogy and not the PT? Because almost every screenshot that is now available from the OT has the same colouring as the 2004 versions, yet the PT has had some colour timing changes. TPM of course, but just look at the Kamino shots. The colour timing here has been altered a lot. The battle between Obi-Wan & Jango outside is now green, whereas before it was more blue. The colour timing here too has changed the colour of Obi_wan's lightsabre to cyan.

George does love his cyan ;)

 

I just threw up in my mouth...

Bingowings said:

Like I keep saying, if the OUT was as available (and perhaps we should start including the PUT into the equation as an increasing number of PT fans start to get as miffed) as these new versions I wouldn't have a problem with a special edition every year.

Remember my "Blu, Not Blue!" slogan? How 'bout this new one...

"PUT it OUT, LFL!"

:p

adywan said:

George does love his cyan ;)

So much better :)

-Angel

R2D2 said:

Imagine you have passed some responsability to your successor, like Matthew Wood is the successor of Ben Burtt. How much effort would you put in if you were Ben Burtt, invited to come in for a short amount of time and give your opinion? He didn't left the company without a reason, it was enough Star Wars for him, no real challenges at Lucasfilm. It's not his mix anymore, it's Matthew Wood mix.

I dunno, I'm still more concerned about Wood's input, but I'm also concerned about Burtt's, especially after all the sound issues I hated in AOTC, ROTS and Star Trek.

Oh, and not sound-related, but I watched the scene where Vader and Luke cross sabers in front of Palps and I still see a lot of pink in Vader's saber not only before, but during.

TV's Frink said:

Angel said:

So much better :)


-Angel

wut

Yeah, to be honest, I find the new colours more pleasing to the eye and like Frink says, it's hard to tell what is correct here. And Ewan's face seems a more natural colour in the BD picture to me. 

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

georgec said:

I'm going as far as to say that since 2004 and the botched audio issues with A New Hope, and now with confirmation of added dialogue and other changes, Matthew Wood comes across as a complete douche bag who's trying to put as much of his imprint on SW as possible.

...he sounds like an idiot who's more excited about making his own changes to SW and taking credit for them rather than doing what's best for the movies,

The more I read the interview, the more I saw that too.  I get the impression that at LFL, the movies are seen as a sort of sandbox that everyone gets to play in once every few years. What a warped view of classic cinema.

I agree. I got that impression when I was watching the making of documentaries from PT. Designers, actors and ILM guys were almost always talking crap like:

"Getting into Darth Vader suite - that's the cool part", "Yoda with the lighsabre, that's cool". "Everyone was cheering when Darth Vader showed up on the set". "I was doing things which I was imagining since I was a kid". And so on...

It's sad that besides Lucas, nobody was really interested in the story. Every character from OT showing up in the PT was cool for them and that's it. They didn't see any magic in those films. It was just a job for them. That's why I say that it wasn't only Lucas fault that the PT failed. To make a good movie, you need a good team, with passion. Look at OT, then you will see ILM guys really wanting things to work. You will see a producer interested in the plot, not only interested in making the cheapest movie possible (McCallum).

You also need actors, who are interested in the roles - Portman and Christensen, although they were main characters, didn't show any interest. I think they just used this movies for their carriers and that's it.

Jacobss said:

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

georgec said:

I'm going as far as to say that since 2004 and the botched audio issues with A New Hope, and now with confirmation of added dialogue and other changes, Matthew Wood comes across as a complete douche bag who's trying to put as much of his imprint on SW as possible.

...he sounds like an idiot who's more excited about making his own changes to SW and taking credit for them rather than doing what's best for the movies,

The more I read the interview, the more I saw that too.  I get the impression that at LFL, the movies are seen as a sort of sandbox that everyone gets to play in once every few years. What a warped view of classic cinema.

I agree. I got that impression when I was watching the making of documentaries from PT. Designers, actors and ILM guys were almost always talking crap like:

"Getting into Darth Vader suite - that's the cool part", "Yoda with the lighsabre, that's cool". "Everyone was cheering when Darth Vader showed up on the set". "I was doing things which I was imagining since I was a kid". And so on...

It's sad that besides Lucas, nobody was really interested in the story. Every character from OT showing up in the PT was cool for them and that's it. They didn't see any magic in those films. It was just a job for them. That's why I say that it wasn't only Lucas fault that the PT failed. To make a good movie, you need a good team, with passion. Look at OT, then you will see ILM guys really wanting things to work. You will see a producer interested in the plot, not only interested in making the cheapest movie possible (McCallum).

You also need actors, who are interested in the roles - Portman and Christensen, although they were main characters, didn't show any interest. I think they just used this movies for their carriers and that's it.

You're 100% right. The other people working on the PT simply didn't have the balls to challenge Lucas creatively or they didn't want to so long as they "got to work on Star Wars LOL." I don't understand how anybody could rationally think Jar Jar would be a hit with anyone older than 5 or with a brain, or the romance in AOTC was anything but empty and soulless.

That said, it all goes back to leadership. Lucas was in charge and it's a combination of him not assembling the best team, or not leading them properly, or otherwise being a toy and merchandise mogul with no regard to story or characters.

In terms of the blu-rays, we have people like Matthew Wood who don't seem to have a regard for the original movies and care more about getting to play with them rather than preserving them. It's honestly quite disappointing and saddening.

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Baronlando said:

That insulated, tone-deaf, out-of-touch bubble seems to grow stronger every year. It's like GL is a home-school kid, and others that stay there end up that way too.

My VHS treated the color space just fine.

pittrek said:

Is it REALLY that hard to say " sorry we fucked up the 2004 DVDs " ? Will they come up with more bullshit excuses ?

doubleofive said:

My VHS treated the color space just fine.

Same here. They still do! And this is one of those things where even the average fan (the ones they like to dupe) that doesn't care about the technical side of things will say 'that doesn't make any sense!'