Also, it would be kinda boring see PT deleted scenes as is, one or two persons wandering in green rooms. :P
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Yes, I know all that. But at least they could have removed the scratches.
Bobby Jay said:
danny_boy
A blu ray forum poster linked up to this:
There was a massive HD monitor set up over the top of a rebel briefing pedestal, much like the one tracking the movements of the Death Star in A New Hope. We were then treated to an abridged presentation of the Battle of Yavin in full 1080 resolution and I have to say it looked absolutely stunning. There were some Special Edition shots included and they seemed to match even more flawlessly than before in high definition. It was really something you just need to see to believe. It’s going to be a stunning looking set. In fact, I was able to handle the box and the concerns over the art, both inside and out, are pretty unfounded. It looks much more well designed and good looking in person than the screen captures could ever lead us to believe.
Pardon my French but with regards to the writer of that article:
Fuck Swank!
The guys an idiot who just doesn't get it. Read about our run in with him here
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/CNN-writer-blasts-Star-Wars-in-3D-and-other-stuff-Georges-changed/topic/12020/page/1/
http://www.bigshinyrobot.com/reviews/archives/17765
http://www.bigshinyrobot.com/reviews/archives/17816
I agree, we shouldn't comment on the blu-rays quality until we've actually seen them ourselves but lets be honest, If you over look the changes and the messed up colours, the films are inevitably going to look good presented at 1080p. That's why everyone is saying they look stunning. A messed up HD transfer is going to look good when compared to a messed up SD transfer.
I retain a little hope that the colours will be sorted but why should we expect them to give us a decent quality transfer?
They messed up the 2006 DVD's, they messed up the 2004 DVD's, they messed up the 1993 Laserdiscs and they messed up the 1989 Widescreen Laserdisc.
Thanks for the info---i was not aware of that.
However he did say one thing I would agree with:
There are different kinds of Star Wars fans and since so many different versions have been released, there are no right answers to what the best and the favorite should be. It’s all a matter of personal taste.
I saw Star Wars in 1977. Many, many, many times. For 3 years it was just Star Wars...period. I saw it in good theaters, cheap theaters and drive-ins with those clunky metal speakers you hang on your window. The screen and sound quality never subtracted from the excitement. I can watch the original cut right now, over 30 years later, on some beat up VHS tape and enjoy it. It's the story that makes this movie. Nothing? else.
http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=SkAZxd-5Hp8
Posted over in the ESB/ROTJ Wishlist:
OT Deleted Scenes Trailer: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=80121
Things I noticed:
Okay, so that part of the blu-ray set is going to be pretty amazing! Too bad I still can't buy it on principle.
Ha!Jedi Temple34 said:
bluray is crap format
Ok, the deleted scenes are cool, and I'm glad the scratches and mouse droppings are left in. A cursory cleaning would do more harm than good.
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I just hope the scenes are actually in 1080p.
I don't want to say something completely stupid, but I think if somebody wanted to work their fingers to the bone, they could paint out dust and scratches. It would most definitely take forever. I don't know if all I said is possible, but we're forward enough in technology and know-how to pull some crazy shit off.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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The deleted scenes do look cool. But I've never bought anything just fot deleted scenes. I'll watch them once or twice, but after that, what's the point?
But I'm sure we'll all buy them in order to watch fanedits that use the deleted footage.
@Frink: Yeah, that's crap. I mean, if you were a casual fan pondering on whether or not to buy the set, cool deleted scenes would tip the favour towards buying. But if you know the set contains three worthless films and three butchered into worthlessness films, it totally sucks to spend all that money on it just for the deleted scenes :-/
I definitely will be for that reason.timdiggerm said:
But I'm sure we'll all buy them in order to watch fanedits that use the deleted footage.
If a fan edit / preservation that I want is made using the BD source, then I'll buy the BD set at that time.
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I wonder if George will pull a "you have to buy the complete saga" crap to get deleted scenes. He would do that just to shit on the original trilogy fans.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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EyeShotFirst said:
I wonder if George will pull a "you have to buy the complete saga" crap to get deleted scenes. He would do that just to shit on the original trilogy fans.
I do believe this is already confirmed to be the case.
And honestly, that kind of thing is done all the time. It's business.
EyeShotFirst said:
I just hope the scenes are actually in 1080p.
I don't want to say something completely stupid, but I think if somebody wanted to work their fingers to the bone, they could paint out dust and scratches. It would most definitely take forever. I don't know if all I said is possible, but we're forward enough in technology and know-how to pull some crazy shit off.
That's also what I was thinking! I thought it was possible to fill content aware in Photoshop and After Effects CS5. Also to overlay another frame to fill in the errors.
The clips could have been cleaned and patched up and presented with the raw uncleaned material to show off how good the restoration process was...oh hum.
Bingowings said:
The clips could have been cleaned and patched up and presented with the raw uncleaned material to show off how good the restoration process was...oh hum.
That would take too much effort. Let's just fabricate a replica of the Rebel briefing room to showcase 3 minutes of our new Blu-Ray.
You know of the rebellion against the Empire?
Jedi Temple34 said:
bluray is crap format
What makes you say that?
And why do you keep ignoring everyone?
The complete footage of the Blu-Ray preview at comic con:
http://youtu.be/CYo6xmhwkw4?hd=1
Guess they couldn't be bothered to fix the 2004 error of the blue haze when the Death Star explodes. My guess is that it is the 2004 transfer
Why would they fix something that in their eyes is not an error?
Why are we even debating this? They are selling a product, and they don't care if if it is defective. We knew they were going to use the 2004 transfers, so I don't know why some are so shocked about this.
Seriously? They went to that much trouble for the preview? Ridiculous.
I guess the missing Force fanfare has now become no music for the entire Battle of Yavin.
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Finally, a clear and indisputable proof that the 2004 masters are being used for the Blu-Ray.
Now, the quality of the video that Ady posted isn't very good, so you can't judge from the colours or crushed blacks and other indicators of the 2004 transfer. At best, you can make an educated guess based on stuff like the blue haze around the explosion, like Ady did. But if you know the facts around SW transfers well enough, the definite proof is there.
A little story first: Not so long ago, an encoding error in my Despecialized Edition was pointed out to me, so I went and checked if it's also in the source file I used (a 720p encode of a German HDTV broadcast capture) and it was. So I went on and checked Adywan's AVCHD and it was there too. But both Adywan and I were using the German HDTV broadcasts for our edits, so I assumed the error must have been in the German broadcast capture but just to be sure, I went, dug up a DVD9 on which I had a UK HDTV broadcast capture burned and checked it there and it was there too. Suspicious, huh?
So I went to the OFFICIAL 2004 DVD and checked there and couldn't believe my eyes!!!
Here's the frame from the !!!OFFICIAL!!! retail 2004 DVD (check out the bottom of the frame):
So, it is quite clear, that this error is a part of the 2004 master, as it seems to appear in it's every incarnation, including the official DVD releases...
... and now, that very same frame from the Blu-Ray preview video:
It's relatively hard to make out due to the bad quality but when you know what you're looking for, it's quite clearly there.