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Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!) — Page 14

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Yeah, like I said, he's not ruling out the down-the-line possibility.

I imagine it won't happen for quite a while, though.

a trolling bantha

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Wow, that deleted scene looks AWESOME. Unfortunately, unless the original unaltered trilogy is included, the deleted scenes are about the only things I care about at this point.

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Nerfherder said:

I know the music was scored in '82 - I'm saying it's nice to be able to hear it now WITH the scene in question :)

And that dialogue is not re-used - it's all 'new' though certainly sounds familiar on a cursory listen.

 Nope. I listened to it 3 times.

The first 2 "luke's" are looped/exactly the same.

And the rest is re-used.

According to this link:http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com/swcs/main.html,

...it would seem that I was right.  Probably very little of this footage is actually old.

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digitalfreaknyc said:

Nerfherder said:

I know the music was scored in '82 - I'm saying it's nice to be able to hear it now WITH the scene in question :)

And that dialogue is not re-used - it's all 'new' though certainly sounds familiar on a cursory listen.

 Nope. I listened to it 3 times.

The first 2 "luke's" are looped/exactly the same.

And the rest is re-used.

According to this link:http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com/swcs/main.html,

...it would seem that I was right.  Probably very little of this footage is actually old.

Yep the Lukes are definately looped. As for the rest I haven't heard it before - the intonation is slightly different to anything in the films even if the dialogue is very similar. However that link you posted isn't working unfortunately - are you saying the dialogue is from the holiday special?

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Well, I got chills seeing that deleted scene.

 

As for this...well, I'll buy it probably.  I don't mind having the SEs, I'd just like the real movies too.

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That deleted scene was AWESOME! It definitely got me excited. Can't wait to see what other deleted scenes we get. I hope we get some new deleted scenes for the prequels, too. I would like to see a finished version of the Jedi storming the trade federation shipps that was cut from the Arena Battle scene in AOTC.


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I love the scene. The dialogue is definitely stitched together from old stuff, some of it might be alternate takes. Is it possible the scene was originally played without dialogue at all, but became subject to the same "people won't understand, everything must be over-explained" mindset that we've become so used to? 

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digitalfreaknyc said:

Nerfherder said:

I know the music was scored in '82 - I'm saying it's nice to be able to hear it now WITH the scene in question :)

And that dialogue is not re-used - it's all 'new' though certainly sounds familiar on a cursory listen.

 Nope. I listened to it 3 times.

The first 2 "luke's" are looped/exactly the same.

And the rest is re-used.

According to this link:http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com/swcs/main.html,

...it would seem that I was right.  Probably very little of this footage is actually old.

I think the link you want is:

http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com/swcs/episode6/lightsaber.html

 

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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James Earl Jones' voice has definately got a 'Jedi' feel to it (his voice changed through each film of course and its fairly easy to spot). Maybe it was stitched together from outtakes, but since John Williams got to score this scene then it suggests perhaps the dialogue may have been completed too?

All conjecture until it's actually out, but I guess they got Jones in for a day or so of Jedi recording during the original dubbing sessions, and it would of course make sense to record too much, so they can chop and change it later. Perhaps he dubbed the cut scenes?

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“Releasing the originals is kind of an oxymoron because the quality of the original is not very good. You have to go through and do a whole restoration on it, and you have to do that digitally. It’s a very, very expensive process to do it. So when we did the transfer to digital, we only transferred really the upgraded version.”

Read more: Star Wars Blu-Ray Announced for Fall 2011, Deleted Scene Revealed | /Film http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/08/14/star-wars-blu-ray-announced-for-fall-2011-deleted-scene-revealed/#ixzz0wcpxnYMM

 

...meh

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From Slashfilm: "The scene has completed visual effects and music because it was cut right before the final edit of the film was made during post production."

So I guess that puts to rest ideas that it was patched together recently then ;)

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Most important thing is! Will it be DOLBY STEREO TRUE-HD otherwise he can keep it and swivel on a lightsaber! I will not buy anything that is dtsHD master audio junk! 

 

Only the originals from the 70mm six-track Dolby stereo Dolby format 42 will sound better on DVD/Bluray.

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...Seriously?  They're both lossless codecs, so there is NO difference at all between DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD.

a trolling bantha

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No originals = No sale. Period.

Hopefully, the bonus features will all be on a separate disc, so I can get it on eBay.

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ChainsawAsh said:

...Seriously?  They're both lossless codecs, so there is NO difference at all between DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD.

 

 

I don’t give a damn! I hate dtsHDMA get it! I hate it! 

 

DOLBY STEREO TRUE-HD or this STAR WARS on bluary can hit the yellow brick road as far as I’m concerned.

 

Here take some of this toilet cleaner to wash you’re mouth out! I don’t want to hear any STAR WARS fan raving about dtsHDMA. Now force this down you’re mouth and guzzle.

 

 

Only the originals from the 70mm six-track Dolby stereo Dolby format 42 will sound better on DVD/Bluray.

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Hmm... even a genius such as myself has never heard of a "brink" road. Perhaps I can use it in my next plan?

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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bkev said:

Hmm... even a genius such as myself has never heard of a "brink" road. Perhaps I can use it in my next plan?

 

That’s why we have edit! You know George Lucas uses "edit droid" to fiddle all his STAR WARS originals so we won’t know a sodden f%*(king difference!

George Lucas better supply the bluray with long piece of rope to easy off the pain a little when we see and hear “the horror, the horror”.

 

 

 

Only the originals from the 70mm six-track Dolby stereo Dolby format 42 will sound better on DVD/Bluray.

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ChainsawAsh said:

...Seriously?  They're both lossless codecs, so there is NO difference at all between DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD.

I see you haven't met Jedi Temple34.

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Nerfherder said:

From Slashfilm: "The scene has completed visual effects and music because it was cut right before the final edit of the film was made during post production."

So I guess that puts to rest ideas that it was patched together recently then ;)

I love how until they come out and say, "Yes, this is 100% from the original production" people start coming up with every hairbrained theory they can to say it was shot new.

Waiting for someone to say that it is Hayden in the Vader armor AND playing Luke under the hood.

 

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TV's Frink said:

ChainsawAsh said:

...Seriously?  They're both lossless codecs, so there is NO difference at all between DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD.

I see you haven't met Jedi Temple34.

 

Well I don’t give a forcing xxxx if he/she hasn’t met me. Chances he/she won’t ever meet me in person.

 

 

Only the originals from the 70mm six-track Dolby stereo Dolby format 42 will sound better on DVD/Bluray.

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SilverWook said:

The deleted scenes will be all over the tubes days after the discs come out anyway.

Fixed: The deleted scenes will be all over the tubes a month before the discs come out anyway.

That's the usual time period for pirates to get their hands on new dvd releases and rip them. They're apparently fair game once the discs are at the manufacturing stage.

I will say that deleted scene was pretty cool. Reading about it over the years was it expected that the scene was this complete? I'm surprised.

But I won't be buying the blu-ray set for some deleted scenes (hey why weren't they on the 2004 box set?) and as for the rest of Lucas' comments - fuck you.

It's a waste of our time even commenting on what lies leave this mans mouth.

There's a private collector that owns a SW print that's in pretty good shape. Lucas' prints (maybe not the o-neg) have to be in at least equal condition. Use them for a restoration you tight bastard.

 

edit: whoops, after re-reading my post I didn't want to imply that I'll be downloading the pirated discs just that I'll watch the deleted scenes on youtubes when they're inevitably uploaded, prior to the release date I'm sure.

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Octorox said:

“Releasing the originals is kind of an oxymoron because the quality of the original is not very good. You have to go through and do a whole restoration on it, and you have to do that digitally. It’s a very, very expensive process to do it. So when we did the transfer to digital, we only transferred really the upgraded version.”

Read more: Star Wars Blu-Ray Announced for Fall 2011, Deleted Scene Revealed | /Film http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/08/14/star-wars-blu-ray-announced-for-fall-2011-deleted-scene-revealed/#ixzz0wcpxnYMM

 

...meh

From the same multi billionaire Lucas who has put the live action show on hold because it costs too much.  He is a billionaire yet cannot put the originals on blu ray. 

I knew he would not relent. I am telling all my family and friends to boycott this release.  He basically just gave the finger too all the original fans.  With any other franchise this would be mean war.  But since it is Lucas the sycophants will kiss his butt and make excuses for him.

Its even worse when you consider he is putting the deleted scenes from the real versions of the movies on the blu ray, without the actual films themselves it is fucking apeshit crazy.

I cannot believe that people paid money to go to celebration V and actually cheered on the desecration of a iconic series of films, they cheered that the originals are suppressed and forever buried.  Man i really dislike TFN and Luca$h at the moment.

 

I would also suspect that these are the 1080p masters of the DVD's and no restoration or rescanning was undertaken.  The exact same as broadcast except with HD audio and better quality.

"These are not the versions of the films you are looking for. Move along, move alone".

So they put in everything but the kitchen sink for extras yet the films that made the legend are not included only the 2004 versions also side by side with those star wars movies that are not star wars movies the prequels.

Also no audio fixes, color fixes, no theatrical prequels or the 1997 special edition star wars trilogy.

Basically the same damn thing already on DVD.  Crap, just crap.

 

Lucas is basically upholding the same company line  that they had Lynne hale tell people i won't even bother looking for it.  But i am sure it is on these forums someplace.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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Lucas interview.

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/14/star-wars-films-coming-to-blu-ray-next-year/

 

‘Star Wars’ Films Coming to Blu-ray Next Year

Though nearly 35 years of “Star Wars” fandom have yielded all kinds of memorabilia inspired by George Lucas’s outer-space epic, including light saber lookalikes and wearable replicas of Princess Leia’s slave costume, one holy grail has lately eluded fans: a video version of the “Star Wars” films that takes the fullest advantage of their top-of-the-line home theater systems.

That’s a Death Star-sized void that Lucasfilm plans to fill shortly. On Saturday, the studio is to announce that it will release all six live-action “Star Wars” features on Blu-ray DVD in fall 2011. A boxed set containing the Blu-ray versions of the movies, spanning from 1977’s “Star Wars” through the final 2005 prequel, “Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith,” will mark the first time the films have been offered in a high-definition home format, and will include documentary features and previously unseen footage.

Given Mr. Lucas’s exacting standards for film presentations (he founded the THX company) and Lucasfilm’s embrace of digital movie technology (digital projection was used for the theatrical release of all three “Star Wars” prequels, and the last two prequels were shot digitally), many fans expected that high-definition versions of the “Star Wars” features would soon follow.

But in a telephone interview, Mr. Lucas said he had been waiting to see if the Blu-ray format would be widely accepted by home viewers.

“We’ve been wanting to do it as soon as we possibly could, but we just wanted to do it when enough people would be able to buy it and see it,” Mr. Lucas said on Friday from the Star Wars Celebration V convention in Orlando, Fla.  

When the original “Star Wars” movies were released on VHS in the early 1980s (along with other short-lived home video formats), Mr. Lucas said sales were slow to take off at first.

“We came out with ‘Star Wars’ right at the beginning of VHS,” he said, “and we sold 300,000 copies.” Within a few years, he added, “They were selling 1 million, 2 million, 10 million. So we learned from that experience that if you’re too early in the marketplace, there’s just not enough demand for it.”

In the case of Blu-ray, at least the potential for galactic-scale sales exists: a recent report by the media firm DEG: The Digital Entertainment Group said that nearly 2 million Blu-ray players were sold in the first half of 2010, an increase of 103 percent over last year, for a total of 19.4 million such devices in the U.S.

Mr. Lucas said the versions of the first three “Star Wars” films – “Star Wars,” “The Empire Strikes Back” and “Return of the Jedi” – included in the Blu-ray boxed set will be the special-edition releases that were shown theatrically in 1997 and digitally restored for a 2004 standard-definition DVD boxed set.

Perhaps bracing for the reactions of fans who decried some of the changes made to the special-edition films – like, say, an exchange of gunfire between Han Solo and a certain green-skinned bounty hunter – Mr. Lucas said that to release the original versions of these films on Blu-ray was “kind of an oxymoron because the quality of the original is not very good.”

“You have to go through and do a whole restoration on it, and you have to do that digitally,” he added. “It’s a very, very expensive process to do it. So when we did the transfer to digital, we only transferred really the upgraded version.”

And while some viewers might want the “Star Wars” Blu-ray release in time for this year’s Life Day – that is, the Wookiee holiday that roughly coincides with the start of the holiday shopping season – Mr. Lucas said a 2011 release was the earliest possible date. (The boxed set will be distributed by Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment; Lucasfilm did not give pricing information or indicate if the films will also be sold individually.)

That, he said, was partly due to continuing work on the additional Blu-ray features, and partly to factors beyond his control.

“We’ve been working on them for quite a while,” Mr. Lucas said, “but still, there are pipelines. Unfortunately, the recent releases get priority over what we call the classic versions of things.”

 

 

 

 

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Jedi Temple34 said:

TV's Frink said:

ChainsawAsh said:

...Seriously?  They're both lossless codecs, so there is NO difference at all between DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD.

I see you haven't met Jedi Temple34.

 

Well I don’t give a forcing xxxx if he/she hasn’t met me. Chances he/she won’t ever meet me in person.

 

You're fun!

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see you auntie said:

But I won't be buying the blu-ray set for some deleted scenes (hey why weren't they on the 2004 box set?)...

This seems to be pretty common for big releases - they hold stuff back for another release down the line.