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A couple of reviews from the SpareChange youtube channel on the more visual / audio / technical aspects of the new 4K blu ray releases:-

‘Is Disney+ Good Enough? Star Wars Trilogy 4K Blu-ray Review’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGLco4P72TA - sade1212 found that the video is likely using 2011 blu ray footage (see posts below for more info)

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‘4K Physical Media or Disney+? Star Wars Prequel Trilogy 4K Blu-ray Review’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vMY_XSJdGg
 

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sade1212 said:

towne32 said:
I’d love to apply the HD color to the UHD image, but I’m not sure how feasible this is.

There are versions available from the group SWTYBLZ which are 2160p 10bit SDR, created by applying a tonemapping algorithm (“using tripple mixed Hable-Reinhard-JJ per scene+frame analysis algorithm”) to the HDR UHD Blurays. They’re not quite 100% identical to the official 1080p SDR colours, but they’re certainly very close, and are very useful if your UHD Blurays don’t look right on your TV for whatever reason.

That’s interesting, thanks. Looks like they’ve done 8 bit and 10 bit versions of all the films.

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It seems more than a couple online critics simply haven’t even LOOKED at the 2020 blu-rays, and are just assuming they’re the same as the 2011 ones.

Doesn’t speak much to their utility as critics, unfortunately.

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sade1212 said:

oojason said:

‘Is Disney+ Good Enough? Star Wars Trilogy 4K Blu-ray Review’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGLco4P72TA

All the footage he uses in that video is the 2011 Blurays, based on the colours, no? Seems somewhat misleading.

Are you sure mate?

It may be worth asking him if that is the case - just to confirm, either way?

(He is quite active and helpful in the comment section of that video - so you should get an answer)

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oojason said:

sade1212 said:

oojason said:

‘Is Disney+ Good Enough? Star Wars Trilogy 4K Blu-ray Review’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGLco4P72TA

All the footage he uses in that video is the 2011 Blurays, based on the colours, no? Seems somewhat misleading.

Are you sure mate?

It may be worth asking him if that is the case - just to confirm, either way?

(He is quite active and helpful in the comment section of that video - so you should get an answer)

I can’t say for sure about all the shots, but some of them sure do seem to be.

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sade1212 said:

towne32 said:
I’d love to apply the HD color to the UHD image, but I’m not sure how feasible this is.

There are versions available from the group SWTYBLZ which are 2160p 10bit SDR, created by applying a tonemapping algorithm (“using tripple mixed Hable-Reinhard-JJ per scene+frame analysis algorithm”) to the HDR UHD Blurays. They’re not quite 100% identical to the official 1080p SDR colours, but they’re certainly very close, and are very useful if your UHD Blurays don’t look right on your TV for whatever reason.

Looking at the screenshot previews, it seems like these are faithful presentations of the HDR grading converted to SDR. I think this is probably good for anyone who is completely unable to display HDR encodings.

But they capture the seemingly darker grading of the new HDR releases. The official SDR, based on the new Disney+ streams and the blu-ray.com screencaps, are bright, vibrant, and saturated in comparison. I’ve yet to get my discs, so I can’t confirm with the direct comparison on those.

Edit: the mkv previews do look good.

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oojason said:

Are you sure mate?

It may be worth asking him if that is the case - just to confirm, either way?

(He is quite active and helpful in the comment section of that video - so you should get an answer)

Obviously not frame perfect but you get the idea.
He’s yet to reply to my comment.

And ROTJ. This one is frame perfect; and yes I did screenshot the 2011 Bluray and the video separately rather than cheat and use the exact same image.

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sade1212 said:

oojason said:

Are you sure mate?

It may be worth asking him if that is the case - just to confirm, either way?

(He is quite active and helpful in the comment section of that video - so you should get an answer)

Obviously not frame perfect but you get the idea.
He’s yet to reply to my comment.

And ROTJ. This one is frame perfect; and yes I did screenshot the 2011 Bluray and the video separate rather than cheat and use the exact same image.

Impressive work, man. Most impressive.

I hope you get an answer from him.
 

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Broom Kid said:

Looks like the buy 2 get 1 free deals on the 4K discs started… this weekend. At Target.

For anyone who purchased individual titles from Target before the sale started:

I bought the three original Trilogy movies and The Rise of Skywalker before the sale started. Took my receipt to Target customer service and they let me get Rogue One and The Force Awakens for free.

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blu-ray.com reviewers are not kind to this release. Frozen grain and some lost detail (though they still note its the best Star Wars has looked on home video to date–not saying much) due to excessive DNR.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Wars-Episode-IV-A-New-Hope-4K-Blu-ray/257142/

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Wars-Episode-V-The-Empire-Strikes-Back-4K-Blu-ray/257141/

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-4K-Blu-ray/257140/#Review

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Relative to the Blus, sure. But that’s not saying much.

I like my film to look like… film.

Agreed. These are without a doubt the best raw materials for a preservation we have, but IMO they’re not really watchable in their existing form. But that’s okay, we can fix that.

Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)

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I just watched the standalone TROS (Target version) and it had DNR, unlike TLJ’s initial pressing. The Faces OT looked more like celluloid than this release, which was trying to mimic grainless, too-perfect digital.

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These new 4K HDR discs are the best I’ve seen these movies look and sound by several orders of magnitude.
I eagerly await the next Harmy Despecialized!

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Rodney-2187 said:

These new 4K HDR discs are the best I’ve seen these movies look and sound by several orders of magnitude.
I eagerly await the next Harmy Despecialized!

The D+77 and D+80 releases are quite great if you don’t mind less than 100% despecialization (some recomped shots, etc).

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towne32 said:

Rodney-2187 said:

These new 4K HDR discs are the best I’ve seen these movies look and sound by several orders of magnitude.
I eagerly await the next Harmy Despecialized!

The D+77 and D+80 releases are quite great if you don’t mind less than 100% despecialization (some recomped shots, etc).

Where can I find more information on these releases (D+77, D+80)?

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Nibcrom said:

towne32 said:

Rodney-2187 said:

These new 4K HDR discs are the best I’ve seen these movies look and sound by several orders of magnitude.
I eagerly await the next Harmy Despecialized!

The D+77 and D+80 releases are quite great if you don’t mind less than 100% despecialization (some recomped shots, etc).

Where can I find more information on these releases (D+77, D+80)?

Create an account on forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com. The D+77 and D+80 releases are there, along with several other projects.

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StarkillerAG said:

Nibcrom said:

towne32 said:

Rodney-2187 said:

These new 4K HDR discs are the best I’ve seen these movies look and sound by several orders of magnitude.
I eagerly await the next Harmy Despecialized!

The D+77 and D+80 releases are quite great if you don’t mind less than 100% despecialization (some recomped shots, etc).

Where can I find more information on these releases (D+77, D+80)?

Create an account on forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com. The D+77 and D+80 releases are there, along with several other projects.

Yeah, I’ve created two accounts there but I’ve never gotten my account approved by an admin so I can browse the forums. 😦

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Did you follow the rules for creating the account? They have very specific requirements for getting approved from what I remember.

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I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re starting to be choosy about letting people in. There’s been a lot more chippy and annoyed posts from some of their admins, and I can’t imagine that the big influx of people, most of whom are just kind of barging into threads and asking for stuff without having read (or donated) anything, is helping at all.

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Nibcrom said:

StarkillerAG said:

Nibcrom said:

towne32 said:

Rodney-2187 said:

These new 4K HDR discs are the best I’ve seen these movies look and sound by several orders of magnitude.
I eagerly await the next Harmy Despecialized!

The D+77 and D+80 releases are quite great if you don’t mind less than 100% despecialization (some recomped shots, etc).

Where can I find more information on these releases (D+77, D+80)?

Create an account on forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com. The D+77 and D+80 releases are there, along with several other projects.

Yeah, I’ve created two accounts there but I’ve never gotten my account approved by an admin so I can browse the forums. 😦

Wait a second… Can’t you just use your originaltrilogy.com login? I’m pretty sure that’s what I’ve been using. Haven’t logged out in a while so…
As I recall I learned that here, that you don’t need to create one just use your OT.com one…

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stretch009 said:

Nibcrom said:

StarkillerAG said:

Nibcrom said:

towne32 said:

Rodney-2187 said:

These new 4K HDR discs are the best I’ve seen these movies look and sound by several orders of magnitude.
I eagerly await the next Harmy Despecialized!

The D+77 and D+80 releases are quite great if you don’t mind less than 100% despecialization (some recomped shots, etc).

Where can I find more information on these releases (D+77, D+80)?

Create an account on forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com. The D+77 and D+80 releases are there, along with several other projects.

Yeah, I’ve created two accounts there but I’ve never gotten my account approved by an admin so I can browse the forums. 😦

Wait a second… Can’t you just use your originaltrilogy.com login? I’m pretty sure that’s what I’ve been using. Haven’t logged out in a while so…
As I recall I learned that here, that you don’t need to create one just use your OT.com one…

I think you do need to create a separate account. Or at least, that’s what I did.