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jonh said:

a quick test
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1p-M_FZG9Srkvcze0R7u8GOmjr6CyRJU4

I love that. That works beautifully, in my opinion.

Broom Kid said:

Could the “Leia’s Theme” section of that trailer music starting at around :30 work for when Rey calls Leia’s saber to her? I think it might time out correctly so that it naturally leads into that Star Wars theme you’re using.

It might even work so that the piano version of “yoda’s theme” plays just as she’s saying “I am all the jedi.”

Ooooo that’d be really cool.

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Wow, that’s even better than I imagined it! I hope I don’t sound hyperbolic when I say that I got goosebumps on my arms. You’re doing amazing work!

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Nice one jonh! I was concerned that music would sound too cinematic or “trailery” but, as others have already said, it fits the actual scene beat by beat, and it helps with the catharsis factor to the ultimate confrontation between the Sith and the Jedi.

I guess the score has been somewhat overlooked amidst all the brainstorming, but I think it’s one of the most important things to get right at least in this movie. John Williams pulled off the gimmick of revisiting previous musical motifs from previous installments in the saga, but the actual film played very loose with those themes, even when they represent something specific. For example, I was thrilled to hear the track for Yoda and Palpatine’s confrontation when Rey is training at the base, but was confused when well known themes such as “Luke and Leia” were used for seemingly random moments like Lando and Jannah’s meeting.

I think we could use even more small snippets of previous scores to accomplish an even more cohesive musical atmosphere. This film is supposed to be the climax of the entire saga, that should be reflected in its score, too.

Themes I was wondering we could revisit:

  • Duel of the Fates (this one has been suggested a lot. It would fit for the Death Star duel and the Sith Eternal’s chanting on Exegol)
  • The Mystery of the Sith theme aka the second half of Padmé’s Ruminations (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4JsA4jF7yo , beginning 1:37). This first appeared in ROTS and I believe is the inspiration for “Anthem of Evil”, the theme that plays when Rey meets Palpatine. Since it’s subtle yet sinister, pieces of it could be spread across the movie in scenes that deal with Palpatine speaking to Kylo or Pryde, or the mystery of Ochi and the dagger.
  • Rose’s Theme could be played over the scene where Finn and Jannah talk.
  • “I’m so Sorry” from ROTS and Clone Wars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH06ijLc2EM&t=189s
  • Some sinister-sounding tracks from the OT such as The Approach to Endor (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkm1jf9Avik&list=PLauGpiqPcHu379AvbapPx9L84RC-P3SLV&index=18) particularly that part near the beginning when Palpatine and Vader speak.
  • The entire ending part of the track “Star Wars and the Revenge of the Sith” went unused in that film. So it could be used in fast-paced action scenes (such as the speeder bike chase) and not feel recycled.
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the bad thing is that as we do to introduce the palpatine scream and the sound effects!

any wizard of sound?

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jonh that fits really well. Hopefully we can rid Palpatine’s screams of the original music.

heil palpatine.

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ohhh it’s amazing! I am going to write to FGR to see if the sounds will be sent to me

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DorkSyde said:

jonh said:

the bad thing is that as we do to introduce the palpatine scream and the sound effects!

any wizard of sound?

Here are a few examples of effectively (imo) added sfx and trailer music for reference https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gBXjXvu9bJ9TCdx9R8SNxYK6ESl8TLWT/view?usp=sharing

I like this, though with the Rey/Kylo fight I can’t help but think it should be more Duel of the Fates, whereas with the Palpatine scene it’s a shame how much it’s cut down. Maybe if there’s a way to keep jonh’s full extended scene as well as the trailer music and the sfx?

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JKMaxx said:

DorkSyde said:

jonh said:

the bad thing is that as we do to introduce the palpatine scream and the sound effects!

any wizard of sound?

Here are a few examples of effectively (imo) added sfx and trailer music for reference https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gBXjXvu9bJ9TCdx9R8SNxYK6ESl8TLWT/view?usp=sharing

I like this, though with the Rey/Kylo fight I can’t help but think it should be more Duel of the Fates, whereas with the Palpatine scene it’s a shame how much it’s cut down. Maybe if there’s a way to keep jonh’s full extended scene as well as the trailer music and the sfx?

forceghostrecon will send me the sound effects, I will do a test

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jonh said:

JKMaxx said:

DorkSyde said:

jonh said:

the bad thing is that as we do to introduce the palpatine scream and the sound effects!

any wizard of sound?

Here are a few examples of effectively (imo) added sfx and trailer music for reference https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gBXjXvu9bJ9TCdx9R8SNxYK6ESl8TLWT/view?usp=sharing

I like this, though with the Rey/Kylo fight I can’t help but think it should be more Duel of the Fates, whereas with the Palpatine scene it’s a shame how much it’s cut down. Maybe if there’s a way to keep jonh’s full extended scene as well as the trailer music and the sfx?

forceghostrecon will send me the sound effects, I will do a test

nice! can’t wait to see what you come up with!

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Some experiments have been done with Duel of the Fates or Battle of the Heroes being part of the Kylo/Rey fight. Here’s different timing examples.

Battle of the Heroes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOpRpYSXfkU
This one is well done–it also uses timing cues from the original lava fight, 1:12 is a good example.

This one uses the crescendos better for the force blocks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjMVwE-d4yU

Duel of the Fates:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djWxPM_41dQ
Good use of the low key at 1:35, but the timing of the Force-blocks doesn’t 100% match.

This one has slightly better timing of Duel’s chanting at the force block moments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYFlmVw4WUg

Interesting split screen comparison between Anakin/Obi-Wan and Rey/Kylo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCGpbotwRXw

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sorry for mentioning a blocked user! They just told me privately! I didn’t know anything about this topic! I’m very sorry !!! I received a message with the email address …😨😨

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DorkSyde said:

jonh said:

the bad thing is that as we do to introduce the palpatine scream and the sound effects!

any wizard of sound?

Here are a few examples of effectively (imo) added sfx and trailer music for reference https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gBXjXvu9bJ9TCdx9R8SNxYK6ESl8TLWT/view?usp=sharing

DorkSyde said:

jonh said:

JKMaxx said:

DorkSyde said:

jonh said:

the bad thing is that as we do to introduce the palpatine scream and the sound effects!

any wizard of sound?

Here are a few examples of effectively (imo) added sfx and trailer music for reference https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gBXjXvu9bJ9TCdx9R8SNxYK6ESl8TLWT/view?usp=sharing

I like this, though with the Rey/Kylo fight I can’t help but think it should be more Duel of the Fates, whereas with the Palpatine scene it’s a shame how much it’s cut down. Maybe if there’s a way to keep jonh’s full extended scene as well as the trailer music and the sfx?

forceghostrecon will send me the sound effects, I will do a test

nice! can’t wait to see what you come up with!

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Why TROS is a complete cinematic failure | Vito
https://youtu.be/6a3dggHrtiQ

Although a lot of it is the usual semi comedic rant, he makes some very good points about pacing, character motivations and arcs.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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God with each of these videos my hate for this film grows. The pacing of this film drives me nuts!

Hopefully with the success of the Snyder Cut movement Disney may look into releasing an extended cut.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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idir_hh said:

God with each of these videos my hate for this film grows. The pacing of this film drives me nuts!

Hopefully with the success of the Snyder Cut movement Disney may look into releasing an extended cut.

🤣🤣🤣
calm idir_hh! We’ll fix it…💪💪💪

I don’t think an extended cut fixes the movie, it’s just a bad movie

edit: I’m still thinking about your opening with coruscant … I think it could be very good

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My main issue with the film is that the story is never allowed to breathe, characters don’t have time to reflect, Rey doesn’t even acknowledge that she’s a Palpatine. Kylo’s redemption and death are merely skimmed over. It’s just run run run.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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idir_hh said:

My main issue with the film is that the story is never allowed to breathe, characters don’t have time to reflect, Rey doesn’t even acknowledge that she’s a Palpatine. Kylo’s redemption and death are merely skimmed over. It’s just run run run.

true !, there is no time to rest

EDIT: Could you give me the link of your edit with kylo in coruscant? I’m going to do a story board

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idir_hh said:

My main issue with the film is that the story is never allowed to breathe, characters don’t have time to reflect, Rey doesn’t even acknowledge that she’s a Palpatine. Kylo’s redemption and death are merely skimmed over. It’s just run run run.

Idir_hh, have you read the novelization if TROS?

I’m a few chapters in and there is a lot more dialogue and the character motivations are much better explained and it doesn’t feel as rushed. I know it won’t improve the movie but it’s an enjoyable read of what the movie could have been. I have hope we get an extended cut coz Chris Terrio’s BvS got one a few month after release.