Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker Redux Ideas thread — Page 75

Anakin Starkiller said:

One thing I really liked from Duel of the Fates that I knew someone as derivative as Abrams would never do was give the other Knights of Ren lightsabers. I think they should all have lightsaber. Red and crackly, but no crossguard. They’re knights, ffs. This should be trivial for an FX expert to accomplish in their battle with Ben using a little rotoscoping. As a bonus, having more than three lightsaber wielders takes us one step further from the ST being an OT ripoff, which is always good.

I think only one other Knight had a lightsaber, which was the actual darksaber from what I remember. But I do agree with the sentiment. I think they would be more visually distinct from one another, and their fight with Kylo would be cooler, if they had lightsabers, but I definitely don’t think the FX work would be “trivial” without making the effect look really amateur.

First of all, the Knights carry their weapons around with them everywhere, so if you applied a saber effect to their weapons, they would have their “lightsabers” activated even while not in combat: watching Kylo’s helmet get repaired, walking around Star Destroyer corridors, standing around in the desert, sneaking around Kijimi, etc.

Second, none of them have traditional bladed weapons, so you would either have to come up with clever saber designs, or mask out bits of the weapon that stuck out and force it into the shape of your typical lightsaber before rotoscoping it. One has a mace (that he hits Kylo in the face with twice), one has a long axe, one has a cleaver that he rests on his shoulder a few times, and another has a curved sword. So not exactly the easiest weapons to translate to lightsabers.

But, I do like the idea too. Maybe you could turn the cleaver, axe, and curved sword into unique types of lightsabers, then you could give the mace head an electric effect like the magnaguard’s electrostaff, and the other two guys with blasters can remain as-is. But you still run into the issues I mentioned before.

I can’t think of anything else I’d want to take from Duel of the Fates. That Rey/Poe romance definitely belongs in the grave (casual reminder to all editors to remove their introduction to each other from TLJ since their romance was removed and this was Trevorrow requested seen to set up just that).

I interpreted this as Rey dealing with being a “nobody” the entire movie, and then finally being acknowledged as “somebody” that people know. Other people could take it out but I don’t think it is necessary.

jonh said:

Chase Adams said:

jonh said:

Yeahh!! change the direction of the eyes, as you suggested 😃

I just noticed this, but in the part with the four jedi standing behind Rey, is that ROTJ footage reused of Obi-Wan? Maybe that could be too recognisable for some people since it’s such a familar shot.

https://vimeo.com/414208171
password:white
this better?

Jonh - All of the ‘tests’ you have shared are just such good quality and the fact you try so many versions is very impressive.

Could I offer some suggestions:

Firstly, if the scene is roughly: Rey with saber, force ghosts appear behind her, then some close ups, then Rey wins. Would it be possible, after the more recognisable ghosts appear, we see that behind them more ghosts arrive, with Qui Gon almost leading them?

I would say the second wave of ghosts would be the others whose voices we heard moments before. And my reasoning is that we’ve just heard them so why not (it would be cool). Also if it’s a more distant shot the footage doesn’t need to be amazing quality so that might make it easier - think glowing silhouettes for the most distant ones. It would add a few more seconds to the scene, which in a film where so many edits want to cut so much, every addition is helpful. And from a story point of view, it shows that in a galaxy full of dead jedi, they’re all coming back to support Rey, not just the best friends.

Secondly, I’d second the idea someone suggested about changing the lightning to show the actual force ghost intervention. Normally I’d think this too heavy handed, but the idea of the shield or glow affect shows that it can work. Also this idea is trying to add a little sense to a scene which didn’t make much sense but really needed to. Would it be possible to make the lightning which Palpatine fires at first slightly greener, and then when Rey (and the ghosts) push it back have it be whiter? Not a full colour change but just a subtle shift in each direction from the starting colour to add another subtle suggestion the ghosts are responsible for the success too and it isn’t just Palpatine clumsily burning his own face off again.

Anyway, great work and I look forward to seeing your next videos, whatever they might be.

idir_hh said:

Ooh nice, if only there was someone on the thread that could pull it off 👀

🤣🤣🤣😅!
I’d better shut up jajajaj

Johannus said:

jonh said:

Chase Adams said:

jonh said:

Yeahh!! change the direction of the eyes, as you suggested 😃

I just noticed this, but in the part with the four jedi standing behind Rey, is that ROTJ footage reused of Obi-Wan? Maybe that could be too recognisable for some people since it’s such a familar shot.

https://vimeo.com/414208171
password:white
this better?

Jonh - All of the ‘tests’ you have shared are just such good quality and the fact you try so many versions is very impressive.

Could I offer some suggestions:

Firstly, if the scene is roughly: Rey with saber, force ghosts appear behind her, then some close ups, then Rey wins. Would it be possible, after the more recognisable ghosts appear, we see that behind them more ghosts arrive, with Qui Gon almost leading them?

I would say the second wave of ghosts would be the others whose voices we heard moments before. And my reasoning is that we’ve just heard them so why not (it would be cool). Also if it’s a more distant shot the footage doesn’t need to be amazing quality so that might make it easier - think glowing silhouettes for the most distant ones. It would add a few more seconds to the scene, which in a film where so many edits want to cut so much, every addition is helpful. And from a story point of view, it shows that in a galaxy full of dead jedi, they’re all coming back to support Rey, not just the best friends.

Secondly, I’d second the idea someone suggested about changing the lightning to show the actual force ghost intervention. Normally I’d think this too heavy handed, but the idea of the shield or glow affect shows that it can work. Also this idea is trying to add a little sense to a scene which didn’t make much sense but really needed to. Would it be possible to make the lightning which Palpatine fires at first slightly greener, and then when Rey (and the ghosts) push it back have it be whiter? Not a full colour change but just a subtle shift in each direction from the starting colour to add another subtle suggestion the ghosts are responsible for the success too and it isn’t just Palpatine clumsily burning his own face off again.

Anyway, great work and I look forward to seeing your next videos, whatever they might be.

Hello Johannus, the truth is that I did not plan to add more ghosts, later maybe I will do a test, but not now … although I love the character of Qui-Gon, I think it is better that he is not.

about palpatine’s rays, I still don’t know how to do it, but I think that the most correct thing is not to put any more effects, and that the ghosts are pushing Rey, and preventing the rays from reaching her 🤔🤔

idir_hh said:

It would have been cool to have Rey with the yellow saber from the get go, would it be possible replace Anakin’s saber with Rey’s? Something like the TLJ edits that replaced Anakin’s saber with Luke’s on Crait.

You could always just make the saber color yellow throughout, like it’s built from the same hilt but she’s using a new crystal and made it her own.

idir_hh said:

Ooh nice, if only there was someone on the thread that could pull it off 👀

https://vimeo.com/414731814
password:tros

a quick test, the first shot is from the battlefront, the other 2 still images, but as a concept of the idea …
I don’t know how it can be on video. I will have to do the test hahaha

krausfadr said:

https://vimeo.com/414731814
password:tros

a quick test, the first shot is from the battlefront, the other 2 still images, but as a concept of the idea …
I don’t know how it can be on video. I will have to do the test hahaha

This is brilliant. I would have the holograms of young Luke, Leia, and Han flicker. Then Luke and Han flicker off, leaving only a young Leia for the final shot of this scene. Or otherwise dolly the camera forward just so she is in frame. This for me is better than a purple lightsaber.

It might be too much fan service though I don’t know anymore.

I love fan-service!!!hahahhahah 😅😅(I loved the moment r2d2-luke in the last jedi haha)

My suspicion is there is an extended edition of TROS will be released in the near future. It will be like BvS which released an extra 30mins of footage that filled in a lot of plot holes which was also written by the “hack” Chris Terrio.

Idir, that video you shared regarding the score made me want to play around with some rescoring.

I wanted to play around with adding Chewie’s Theme from Solo to when Rey realizes he’s still alive. I also feel like this restore add a sense of relief for Rey, relief that she didn’t kill him.

I did three versions, back to back, and I didn’t remove the original score so you might still hear bits of it. Just a rough idea. Let me know if you guys like any or prefer a certain version.

https://streamable.com/njzz2h