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Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker Redux Ideas thread — Page 124

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Brewzter said:

Hal 9000 said:

Would you send me Qui-Gon saying, “Bring balance to the Force”? That might be nice to include at any rate.

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Send it this way, I’ll take a look at possibilities for Qui-Gon line

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Cinefy said:

Brewzter said:

Hal 9000 said:

Would you send me Qui-Gon saying, “Bring balance to the Force”? That might be nice to include at any rate.

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Send it this way, I’ll take a look at possibilities for Qui-Gon line

On this topic, Brewzter, would you happen to have any possible dialogue of Qui-Gon saying anything like:

My apprentice died, my apprentice fell, Obi-Wan died, Obi-Wan paid the price, I lost my student, etc. etc.

Anything at all that has Liam Neeson indicating Obi-Wan died?

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thebluefrog said:

Cinefy said:

Brewzter said:

Hal 9000 said:

Would you send me Qui-Gon saying, “Bring balance to the Force”? That might be nice to include at any rate.

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Send it this way, I’ll take a look at possibilities for Qui-Gon line

On this topic, Brewzter, would you happen to have any possible dialogue of Qui-Gon saying anything like:

My apprentice died, my apprentice fell, Obi-Wan died, Obi-Wan paid the price, I lost my student, etc. etc.

Anything at all that has Liam Neeson indicating Obi-Wan died?

Not that I ever saw while searching for lines, sorry.

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Bringing this from Hal’s TROS: Ascendant thread, what do you guys think of making Palpatine’s Force lightning red? Here’s a concept from Skywalker Arts:

https://imgur.com/a/TZ4CnuM

And here’s a quick video mockup from sade1212:

https://streamable.com/si5q8z?fbclid=IwAR1q7SEh_pkYu_A0IYfy0fK6Ai35zKd6hSNwlhLJknSd1S8_hJ_7lDSB10U

Personally, I don’t know if I’d use a full version in my own edit yet but I’d love to see it- there was a decent amount of support from others as well.

There was some discourse about it regarding confusion, but I don’t see it as something that needs to be directly explained. We see Palpatine absorb the power of the dyad and then he steps down in new (red) robes with glowing eyes again, so I feel like it’s safe to say the audience would understand:

Dyad power-charged Palpatine = Greater power than ever before = Red Force lightning color

The red could just be interpreted by the general audience as maximum Dark side power since red usually means Sith, and TCW fans would appreciate the connection to the Son in the Mortis arc.

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I do like the look of this, and I have advocated for leaning a little more towards Clone Wars stuff, especially that Palpatine may have been resurrected in part through Nightsister magic. But I’m not sure if it feels a little videogamey to imply he’s ‘levelled up’ a bit. I also think Star Wars leans a little too heavily on the ‘Change the colour = intriguing’ trope.

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Anything that diversifies the colour pallet on Exogol gets a Yes from me.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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idir_hh said:

Anything that diversifies the colour pallet on Exogol gets a Yes from me.

Grey with green smoooooooke!

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I’d really like to see a Nightsister green smoke effect (with SFX included) either around Sidious’s life-support system or when he drains the Dyad power out of Ben and Rey.

Yeah the red lightning might feel like something coming from a videogame or a comic book, but I’m still intrigued by its plausibility. At least it has a precedent in the form of the Son of Mortis, and besides, the Dyad power did not only restore Palps but also gave him brand new clothing so I think most audiences could give it a pass.

Also the visual contrast between Palps’ red lightning and Rey’s blue Skywalker lightsaber would be impressive.

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I still feel like connecting Palpatine to the Son raises more questions than it answers…

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Knight of Kalee said:

I’d really like to see a Nightsister green smoke effect (with SFX included) either around Sidious’s life-support system or when he drains the Dyad power out of Ben and Rey.

Yeah the red lightning might feel like something coming from a videogame or a comic book, but I’m still intrigued by its plausibility. At least it has a precedent in the form of the Son of Mortis, and besides, the Dyad power did not only restore Palps but also gave him brand new clothing so I think most audiences could give it a pass.

Also the visual contrast between Palps’ red lightning and Rey’s blue Skywalker lightsaber would be impressive.

Hell yeah! I’m down to see both. And if we go by the lightsaber edit in Hal’s TROS Ascendant, Rey will initially be using Leia’s purple lightsaber and then soon add in Anakin’s crackling blue lightsaber.

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JakeRyan17 said:

I still feel like connecting Palpatine to the Son raises more questions than it answers…

Definitely agree. Though red doesn’t necessarily directly equate to Son.

I’ve always been a big advocate of Clone Wars nods, but I always found the popular Mortis arc way too on the nose and demistifying.

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EddieDean said:

JakeRyan17 said:

I still feel like connecting Palpatine to the Son raises more questions than it answers…

Definitely agree. Though red doesn’t necessarily directly equate to Son.

I’ve always been a big advocate of Clone Wars nods, but I always found the popular Mortis arc way too on the nose and demistifying.

I like that arc, but trying to pull out those elements and equivocate Palpatine with the Son seems wrong to me. That arc was about balance, and if that balance is being reshaped in the dyad of Rey and Ben both Son and Daughter should be represented. Palpatine isn’t channelling the Daughter, so I don’t understand how taking power from both of them would allow him to channel the Son.

If it isn’t going to be that deep mythologically, then it just feels like a video game power up.

Introducing new powers and power levels in the final episode is tough, as there’s no setup. There’s already too many new powers and abilities here, having Palpatine get a new and unexplained power after Rey and Ben get several new and unexplained powers only makes the film less sensical.

Adding Nightsister magic with green fog is less intrusive, as it could be inferred to be natural (similar to a Malastare) just as much as a callback to the Nightsisters.

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If it isn’t going to be that deep mythologically, then it just feels like a video game power up.

Personally I wouldn’t heavily question the Son/Palpatine connection and would just enjoy the color. And with how campy Palpatine has always been I wouldn’t really consider it a bad thing for it to feel like a video game power up lol, even if that’s not how I see it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_HpAVSnVa8

When we’re talking about the green nightsister magic, do we mean the mist around Palpatine from 0:52-0:57 or the effect coming from Ben and Rey’s bodies? I’m thinking of the mist

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The way I see it red = Dark Side therefore red lightning makes perfect sense, arguably more sense than blue lightning.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

The way I see it red = Dark Side therefore red lightning makes perfect sense, arguably more sense than blue lightning.

So… the lightning used by Palpatine and Dooku in the previous films wasn’t the dark side?

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I simply see it as a perk of all the Sith living in him.

After all, It is only natural.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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I just think the red lightning provides a good contrast to the blue of Exegol, and would maybe explain a bit better how it was able to disable a whole fleet.

Use the Force, Jon Yowza.

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I just feel like the colour doesn’t explain anything, and forces us to ask questions without answers.

If the monochromatic Exegol is the problem, I think changing up the colours of the planet, temple, or even just the mist/fog would better break up the blue than to introduce new powers/looks for established powers.

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idir_hh said:

I simply see it as a perk of all the Sith living in him.

After all, It is only natural.

basically lol, red lightning = ultimate sith

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JakeRyan17 said:

I just feel like the colour doesn’t explain anything, and forces us to ask questions without answers.

If the monochromatic Exegol is the problem, I think changing up the colours of the planet, temple, or even just the mist/fog would better break up the blue than to introduce new powers/looks for established powers.

What questions does it force you to ask? It’s literally simple.

Red force lightning = more evil power.

Simple as it can get. Not even a “new power”.

Use the Force, Jon Yowza.

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Hoop28 said:

JakeRyan17 said:

I just feel like the colour doesn’t explain anything, and forces us to ask questions without answers.

If the monochromatic Exegol is the problem, I think changing up the colours of the planet, temple, or even just the mist/fog would better break up the blue than to introduce new powers/looks for established powers.

What questions does it force you to ask? It’s literally simple.

Red force lightning = more evil power.

Simple as it can get. Not even a “new power”.

Exactly, it’s just a cool visual change. Star Wars fans wouldn’t question it since they’d understand it’s a fan-edit (appreciate it as a nod to TCW if that’s how they interpret it) and a general audience would just think “huh, cool”.

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Yep. Hardly a necessity but a cool plus I guess.

Though if I had to choose only one, I’d pick the green magic mist over the red lightning.