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Sorry, I just noticed that PMs and my profile (which has my email) weren't turned on. It's fixed now.
I also thought that my email address was listed in the review for Balance, as it was on the dvd...
Apparrently, it wasn't.

Also, there is a bad "rainbow" at another part in the Pre ANH tape where the tape switch occurred, so I think it was just an initial bad jump cut. I think the later release added the minor dialogue extension, ala "To be angry is to be human". I've gone over it frame by frame and the technology at the time would have made it look a lot worse if the recorder was shut off and turned back on... and remember that I have studied the entire version frame by frame to recreate it.

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Rikter - I received the ordered package today (Saturday) - I've had to lock myself in a dark room to calm down as I just got too excited looking at just the selection of stuff you have on the CD - some damn fine tunes on there too. I havn't actually sat down to watch anything else yet!

Many thanks m8

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THANKS for the cool comment on MY re-mix CD!

Enjoy!!

“My skill are no longer as Mad as the once were” RiK

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"Included on the disc is the Muppet Show episode with Luke and the droids. I'm a huge Muppets fan and I love this episode. There is a sharp visual and audio buzz near the middle, but otherwise it looks and sounds pretty good. Like 1st gen VHS."

Was this segment mastered from VHS, or from the new DVD's?

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Just watched Star Wars : Episode 1 - Balance Of The Force - MagnoliaFan Edit, on DVDr.

First off - I don't have much of an eye for these things, nor that much of fancy equipment but the pic and sound quality are top notch, and the all-round editing and production quality is superb.

The Edit itself - WOW, just WOW!

This is how IMHO Ep 1 should have been - the pacing is quicker, more in keeping with the OT, the aliens all come across less cartoony and more menacing, and in the case of the Gungans it gives a backstory to them that makes you actually care about them as a species. The Tade Federation are now far more sinister and have a more meanicing presance - their oppression and gradual extermination of the Naboo people is ore greatly alluded to. The subtitles and altering of the alien voices are done very well - anyone who is a fan of the UK sci-fi comedy Red Dwarf's 'Backwards' episode will enjoy this.

Now, I was never too enamoured with original The Pod Race section, it seemed overlong and without much tension, however this Edit really does liven it up - there are more things going on between the drivers, a real sense of danger is now present and you actually believe Anakin had to really work for his victory in the race. Most impressive.

The battle scenes seem more 'tighter' - there are certain bits that seem to have been cut, though it does give a more involving sense of the various fight and battle scenes. In this Edit you feel that the people of Naboo are being systematically wiped out - and with each passing moment more are being eliminated - which gives more weight to Amidala's actions, and to that of Palpatine too. More of the story too seems to actually make sense, and without leaving you to dot-the-dots, is a lot more intriguing.

I'd recommend any SW fan to get their hands on this version - it does make me wonder how the editor and/or GL could get it so wrong with their version...

Hope a certain person here (cough, ahem, cough) is going to a DVD slipcover and DiscArt for this one...




Many Thanks to those who created the Edits, and those who made it possible for us fans to get our hands on them too.




Just watched the Star Wars : Episode 2 - The Clone War - MagnoliaFan Edit, on DVDr.

The Opening Crawl:-

"Episode II

The Clone War

Turmoil has engulfed the Galactic Republic. Over a thousand star sytems, under the leadership of the mysterious Count Dooku, have declared their intention to seceed from the Republic.

The seperatist movement has made it nearly impossible for the limited number of Jedi Knights to continue maintaining peace and order throughout the galaxy.

Senator Amidala, former Quenn of Naboo, is returning to Coruscantfor the first time in a decade, to vote on the issue of creating an army of the Republic, to combat the growing rebellion..."


I have to say I don't own an official dvd of Ep2 - so any comparisons are done from my rather poor memory.

The pic and sound quality once more is of a very high standard and cannot be faulted. The Edit itself is certainly a more interesting version than that of Lucas' - and the story does seem to flow a lot easier too. The altering of the aliens voices and content of their conversations are in line with the above Ep1 MagnoliaFan Edit, and again the effect gives a more sinister presance to the bad guys, whilst JarJar comes across as more noble.

The opening scene is recut - there is no dialogue before the Senator's ship explodes, and there are also slight dialogue and timing trims throughout the movie - it does give a more important sense of timing and like the Ep1 Edit makes a more flowing film.

The Zam chase seems to be shorter, there is no Janfo Fett around until he shoots her with the Kamino Dart.

The Mace, Yoda and Obi Wan scene walking thorugh the Jedi Halls has been edited out, as has Obi Wan's meeting with the Jedi Librarian. IIRC Amidala's meeting with the new Queen of Naboo has been cut too.

There is an added scene in which Mace walks Obi Wan to his Jedi Starfighter and Ben reveals that he may have been wrong about Anakin being trained as a Jedi...

Scenes featuring Padme's family have been restored and you begin to see why Padme actually starts to fall for Anakin - something completely beyond me in Lucas' version, also some of the more 'ickier' love scenes have been removed (ie 'I don't like sand' and the rolling around in the grass fields scene ).

There is a fantastic bit of editing involving Watto, which for me made it the lighthearted moment of the film.

Obi Wan's fight with J Fett is complete - something us UK'ers may not have as a 'headbutt' scene was removed (and IMHO badly done) for the UK audience.

Schmi Skywalker's death scene has been trimmed too, making it a more poignant death.

C3P0's 'comedic' action & lines seem to have been improved or cut - I certainly found them less annoying and out of place in this Edit.

Dooku now fights Anakin with a yellow lightsabre - not red, and does not meet up with Palpatine upon his arrival at Coruscant.




SW - The Phantom Edit 1.2 ReEdit, on DVDr

The title screen presents you with an option to see the movie, or watch 2 altered scenes differing from the vhs edit and the dvd edit - both versions are here to see and there is a text explanation as to why - all of which is very well done.

The picture and sound quality is on a par with the official dvd release, Jar Jar's new voice makes him a less annoying creature than Lucas' edit - and does across as more noble. The Trade Federation are less 'cartoony' too - and now seem a more worthy, though sinister adversary.

more to come...

“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here?”

“Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?” - Oddball, of The Awkward Squad

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^ Nice one MagnoliaFan - will do.

Is there a cover for your Ep 2 Edit as well?

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Yep...
I know the original cover art for both is floating around, catch me online and I can IM it to you.

I originally only made a few copies for friends & family...
Then it magically turned up for sale at the San Diego Comic Con last year, complete with the cover art I made for those personal copies, so I decided to hell with it. I'd rather share it with a few people for free, who could pass it along...

BTW, if anyone takes a stab at their own cover art, I'd still be interested in seeing the result.

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MagnoliaFan - I have to ask - how long did it take you to edit Ep1 until it became your version?

I have no idea about how you managed to pull it so well - there's a lot of editing on there, though all very well done IMHO. I can only imagine it must have been a long and frustrating process?

Was editing Ep2 any easier? (there seems to be less editing compared to Ep1 - though I'm only going from memory as I don't own an official DVD of it...)

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Episode 1 was an on again off again experiment for a couple years that I finally buckled down and finished as a project for a digital editing class. The earliest beginnings of it were just notes on paper from watching the vhs, and later the bootleg dvd, prior to the official dvd release. It evolved a lot after getting to see the deleted scenes.
"The Clone War" actually was finished before Balance of the Force. I got frustrated working on one scene in particular from Balance and made the bulk of CW (sans Dooku's yellow saber) over a weekend, as a change of pace.
I think that CW is still a tad rougher around the edges than Balance. If I ever had access to all of the extra Jar Jar scenes, the lost twenty scene, and the extra scenes from the Lars Homestead, I would definitely make a Special Edition to CW.
There are actually changes to nearly every shot in the Phantom Menace. I found that shaving a few frames off of almost every shot drastically reduced the film's final runtime. That's how I was able to add so much deleted footage and extend other scenes without really cutting out a large amount of footage in the finaly film, considering that it runs 16 minutes shorter and yet has all the deleted scenes and several new scene extensions.
There are a lot of really tedious changes I made just for the hell of it that I doubt most people ever notice. I'm thinking about making a website and putting up a comprehensive list of every major change (besides frame trimming).

A few changes that most people don't ever notice:

The first scene between TC-14 and the Viceroy has been extended with additional dialogue.

Original - Darth Sidious: I don't want this stunted slime in my sight again!
Balance - Dath Sidious: I don't want this slime in my sight again!

The Jedi mind trick now has its own sound effect.

When Qui-Gon and co enter Mos Espa, a large ship flew by at a very low altitude against line of sight. It had been digitally painted out of the shot in Balance. The wipe is trimmed to help hide it.

Beisdes the cantina song (if you've seen it, you know), Watto has several new lines of dialogue.

Original - Anakin: Since I was very little... Three, I think.
Balance - Anakin: Since I was three, I think.

Original - Anakin: Sandstorms are very... very dangerous. Come on, I'll take you to my place.
Balance - Anakin: Sandstorms are very dangerous. Come on, I'll take you to my place.

Dozens of "Phantom laserblasts" have been given sound effects, and lots of additional sound has been added in other places, such as additional chatter on the streets of Mos Espa.

Any scene where music has been replaced or aliens are dubbed has had the entire sound mix reproduced from scratch.

In the balcony scene with Maul, Sidious has an alternate line of dialogue. Digitally altered footage of Sidious had to be painted over the original scene and looped in such a way that it created the illusion of a lip synch. The footage of Maul had to be altered also to match the new length of the scene.

That's just a few of the lesser known ones...

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Magnolia, is your Balance of the Force edition availible in torrent form or still just dvd. I am very interested in seeing you work as it appears you've put alot of care and alot of effort into it.

On another note, I've just recently got a copy of the HD sourced ESB. I won't have time to watch if for a few days, but I'll give you guys some screen caps and impressions later in the week.
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Originally posted by: On another note, I've just recently got a copy of the HD sourced ESB. I won't have time to watch if for a few days, but I'll give you guys some screen caps and impressions later in the week.



A High Definition of The Empire Strikes Back?

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Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend
Magnolia, is your Balance of the Force edition availible in torrent form or still just dvd. I am very interested in seeing you work as it appears you've put alot of care and alot of effort into it.

I'll be hosting it in a month or so - keep an eye on my torrent release thread
you can email me for alternatives.


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As far as I know, just dvd.
If someone does create an online version, be sure to make sure the subtitles are on it, since they are a separate subtitle track.


It will have them for sure on the XVCD!!!

Again WOW - The Edit is................

Damn I'm at a loss for words, and me at a loss for words!

DAMN it's just that good!

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MagnoliaFan - any plans for there to be subtitles for the alien voices on the Ep2 The Clone War Edit dvd too?

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Can the subtitles be turned on and off, if so where?

I'll have another look at the disc later on (and check my player's subtitle setting)

“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here?”

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Wait, so are these a DVD or a VCD. I would have thought that if the source was DVD, the video would have stayed in that format.
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I'd be great to have both a DVD and a VCD of the edit.

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.

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I'm only aware of dvds of the edits, which is how they were made.
The subtitle tracks on both were set to default on, so they should be on unless you shut them off.
I was just pointing out that if somebody converted them to put up online, to be sure to add the sub track, as it is separate.
BTW, if your settings are not displaying the subtitles for some reason just press the subtitle button and they should turn on. That is odd though. This is the first I've heard of that problem.

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Originally posted by: MagnoliaFan
I'm only aware of dvds of the edits, which is how they were made.
The subtitle tracks on both were set to default on, so they should be on unless you shut them off.
I was just pointing out that if somebody converted them to put up online, to be sure to add the sub track, as it is separate.
BTW, if your settings are not displaying the subtitles for some reason just press the subtitle button and they should turn on. That is odd though. This is the first I've heard of that problem.


Yeah, I thought I read someone was going to make an XVCD of the edit to be availible. I was alittle worried, like I said because you went to such lengths for digital edits from a digital source that taking a step back wouldn't be wise.

Thanks for the info.
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Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend
Originally posted by: MagnoliaFan
I'm only aware of dvds of the edits, which is how they were made.
The subtitle tracks on both were set to default on, so they should be on unless you shut them off.
I was just pointing out that if somebody converted them to put up online, to be sure to add the sub track, as it is separate.
BTW, if your settings are not displaying the subtitles for some reason just press the subtitle button and they should turn on. That is odd though. This is the first I've heard of that problem.


Yeah, I thought I read someone was going to make an XVCD of the edit to be availible. I was alittle worried, like I said because you went to such lengths for digital edits from a digital source that taking a step back wouldn't be wise.

Thanks for the info.


It's not a step back - since you don't have it

I'll be posting as XSVCD - SO you all can download it FAST!!!

I have broadband - not everyone does and not everyone can download a 4 GIG DVD file



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Plus not all of us have DVD burners.

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.

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Still no luck re the alien subtitles for Ep2 - The Clone War...

Rikter, does your dvdr have subtitles on for Jar Jar and others?

“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here?”

“Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?” - Oddball, of The Awkward Squad