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Star Wars Sequel Duology: The First Order = Imperial Remanent, Resistance = New Republic, New Jedi Order still intact

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The sequels have been trashed on enough, so I’m going to try not to talk about that too much in this post. I’ve always been very annoyed at how much potential the characters in the sequels had. I find the characters of Rey, Finn, and Kylo to have really amazing concepts but for me, it was ruined by completely undoing the OT and having a lack of a plan for the trilogy. So this is my attempt at trying to keep them more in line with a legend’s story taking place much earlier in the timeline.

The Basis of these edits is the amazing Heir of the Force and Fate of the Jedi. I have changed it into a duology, as even though I like some aspects of TROS, I believe it to be unharvestable as it was completely unearned.

The main differences from those above edits:

First of all, Heres how the timeline works

Right after Return of the Jedi, Han and Leia have their first child, Ben Solo, who then goes to train with Luke in his new growing Jedi Order. The location of the Jedi Order is made secret due to the Imperial Remanents’ existence. Ben is manipulated by Snoke, (as seen in the comics) and leaves with another group of students (the Jedi order is not destroyed.) Luke is destroyed by this, and using the map to the first jedi temple found in BF2, he goes to the temple to find answers on how to help Ben. A Map to Skywalker, is put together and is hunted down by the Empire with the goal of finding Luke, and destroying the Jedi once and for all. This all takes place when the Solo twins are born, but very young. Han does not leave the New Republic and return back to smuggling, but the fall of Ben to the dark side has split Han and Leia up temporarily.

TFA:

No Crawl, but blue text setting up the context, as in my opinion the crawl should only belong to the main 1-6 saga movies

Using Elevenlabs AI, all mentions of Resistance and First Order are changed to New Republic and Empire

the biggest one is that Han lives. This is made to slot into legends so Han has to survive. I like Hans’s death and what it means, but the only possible way it can stay like that is if I move this all the way down the timeline to after the YUzhon Von wafr and completely remove Chewbacca from the movie. If you don’t care about legends, there is a version of this movie with and without it.

Next is Starkiller Base. Starkiller Base’s weapon function is completely removed, as it was a stupid trope even in ROtJ.

I’ve always been bothered by the fact that there are little to no mentions of anything prequel related in TFA and TLJ, so prequel sounds, and a vision of Anakin in the Jedi temple from Kenobi, is added in Rey’s vision

Deleted scenes are also added back in.

TLJ:

No Crawl, but blue text setting up the context, as in my opinion the crawl shpilg only belong to the main 1-6 saga movies

First of all, even though I like the meaning of the title (as a movie NOT as a sequel) the title has to be changed.

Some shots of Han are going to have to be added since he survived (there will be a version with and without)

Using Elevenlabs AI, all mentions of Resistance and First Order are changed to New Republic and Empire

Vader vs Kylo fan film is added in, as it fits basically perfectly. It adds to Kylos very abrupt change from Vader and is also just great fan service

I’m not sure about this yet, but there is a fan film about Kylo Ren that expands on Luke’s failure (and also has Anakin in it) so I think it would be a great addition to the movie during the flashback section. it is animated, so it may take you out of the movie, but I think it’s worth it.

Deleted Scenes added

The resistance fleet is NOT the last of the resistance, and the stakes of the movie are from them being cut off from communications , + the fact that all of Reys friends are all on that fleet

I think I’m going to change Luke’s lightsaber back to being blue, as it visualizes Lukes’s arc throughout the movie, because he uses the lightsaber he refused from the beginning of the movie. The only problem with this though is that it makes Ben look like an idiot as he just saw the lightsaber being destroyed.

Lukes dialog about being the last jedi and about the war just beginning is changed

(not sure about this yet) some of the ending of TROS, including an appearance of Lando, would be the scene where all OT actors are reunited and the war is finally over after the signing of the treaty (sadly has to be off-screen)

These will take time, especially since I am also working on my main SW saga edits, but these should be released before those since they are fairly simple.

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I like the intent behind this project. However, I think there are some problems with this idea:

  1. If these edits are supposed to fit within the Legends timeline, then where the Thrawn Trilogy is supposed to take place? I mean, your edits take place after Return of the Jedi, and you even said that Jacen and Jaina are already born in them. So, where the Thrawn Trilogy is placed in this new timeline? It can’t happen before your Duology, because Jacen and Jaina are born precisely in the Thrawn Trilogy. If Ben Solo is the first son of Han and Leia and was born before Jacen and Jaina, then he should have been born before the Thrawn Trilogy. But there’s no mention of him in the trilogy, therefore he can’t be born before Jacen and Jaina. Also, the Thrawn Trilogy can’t happen after your Duology either, because Luke, Leia, and Han look way older in your edits than in the Thrawn Trilogy. So the Thrawn Trilogy can’t happen neither before or after your Sequel Duology. If it happens before, then everything doesn’t line up as far as Ben, Jacen and Jaina’s births are concerned. And if it happens after, then the appearance of the characters doesn’t align with what’s described in the Thrawn Trilogy itself.
    Maybe you could reply by saying: “Well, I could just say that the Thrawn Trilogy simply never happened, and is entirely replaced by my edits.” But unfortunately you can’t do this either, for the following reasons: 1) the events of the Thrawn Trilogy are often mentioned in the New Jedi Order series, so it must have happened at some point; 2) if you rule it out you don’t have anything depicting Jacen and Jaina’s birth, and if their existence isn’t even mentioned in your Duology, then everything would become very convoluted and wouldn’t make much sense.
  2. The Dark Empire Trilogy has the same problems as the Thrawn Trilogy in regards to your edits. Anakin Solo is one of the main characters in the New Jedi Order series, therefore if you want to leave the series intact, you must include Anakin Solo’s backstory. But he was born precisely in the Dark Empire Trilogy, so if you rule it out you don’t have anything depicting his birth, and it wouldn’t make sense to leave it out considering that the events of the Dark Empire Trilogy are often mentioned in subsequent works, especially when Anakin Solo is involved as the main character of a certain story. Besides, just like the Thrawn Trilogy, you can’t place Dark Empire neither after or before your Duology. If you place it before, then again, Ben, Jacen and Jaina’s births would become messy. And if you place it after, the appearance of the characters wouldn’t make any sense, as they look way much younger in the comics than in your Duology.
  3. Mara Jade and Luke were already married when the Yuuzhan Vong invasion started. If your edits are supposed to happen before the Vong invasion, where’s Mara Jade then? Why she allowed Luke to leave her and go around the Galaxy alone after Ben’s rebellion? It wouldn’t make sense if they are together already, because she would have never left Luke alone.
  4. Since Ben doesn’t appear in the NJO, he should die before the Vong invasion. However, you didn’t seem to have planned any death for him in your edits. How do you want to solve this problem?

If you have solutions for these problems, then I’d like to hear them, and see how you want to solve them within the context of your edits.

“Sometimes we must let go of our pride, and do what is requested to us.”
– Anakin Skywalker

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Hey, I’ve been working on a sequel duology too! In some areas, our ideas are quite different, but in others, they are surprisingly similar.

My edit is a merging of Legends and Canon in which Ben and Jaina (Rey) are the Solo twins. Jaina is stolen from Coruscant as a small child by bounty hunters who intend to sell her to the Empire, but then for reasons unknown, abandon her on Jakku. The trauma of her abduction causes Jaina’s memory of her origins to be suppressed.

Palpatine does not appear. Snoke is the villain throughout (even on Exegol!).
Here is an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozgt7T98sVg

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Palpatine does not appear. Snoke is the villain throughout (even on Exegol!).
Here is an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozgt7T98sVg

That’s insane! The lighting of snoke looks identical and it fits perfect. I actually really enjoy the “I’m all the Jedi moment” but don’t have a place for it to fit into my edits so I’m excited to see what else you got coming.

As to the concept of what you’re doing, I more prefer them to be separate characters, as I really like all of them and don’t want to use one over the other.

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As to the concept of what you’re doing, I more prefer them to be separate characters, as I really like all of them and don’t want to use one over the other.

I totally get where you’re coming from. In my project, the ideas behind Legends and Canon are blended to put a new spin on the story. Admittedly, this approach will not be for everyone, but I saw it as a fun challenge to try to merge the new canon into the old Expanded Universe (which I love).

Anyway, I like your ideas, and I can’t wait to check out your edit!

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Palpatine does not appear. Snoke is the villain throughout (even on Exegol!).
Here is an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozgt7T98sVg

As Dev Dog already said, that’s insane! I can’t wait to see your edits to be completed! Though, I suggest you to open a separate thread for them.

“Sometimes we must let go of our pride, and do what is requested to us.”
– Anakin Skywalker

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Spartacus01 said:

Palpatine does not appear. Snoke is the villain throughout (even on Exegol!).
Here is an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozgt7T98sVg

As Dev Dog already said, that’s insane! I can’t wait to see your edits to be completed! Though, I suggest you to open a separate thread for them.

Agreed. I don’t want to take any attention away from DevDog. He’s got a cool project going here that people should be following.