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I think Ady said the opening is upconverted on the German .TS,that is why I use the English version up until the first scene change,I have only messed with ANH and ESB so far.

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DVD-BOY said:

Still working out the best approach to make on these releases - I don't have the skill, or patience to colour correct these releases like Adywan.

 

I've been casually (no Blu-Ray playback capabilities here) following this thread. I have worked up an avisynth script that gets rid of the blue and green push on the SE ANH DVD. If the colors are the same on the HD version, it may be of some benefit to this project.

Just though I'd throw it out there. Adywan did a nice job of color correcting the SE, but I thought some of the skin tones were a little off in some shots. Just reducing the blue and green push gets pretty close to what I remember Adywan's looking like but does a better job on the skin tones IMHO. But since the same reduction in color push is applied to the whole film, it may not be quite as good as Adywan's for some scenes.

Let me know if you're interested.

-G

 

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PM sent and you know me g-force,I am always open for testing,as I said in the PM to you,I am sitting here right now trying to figure out a way to take out some of the blue color on ESB right now.

But keep in mind we are working with lossless avi files.

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dark_jedi said:

But keep in mind we are working with lossless avi files.

 

Oh, they won't be lossless when I get my hands on them. ;)

Anyway, what is the colorspace you are using? There may have to be some conversion in between, and I know I had to convert to RGB to get enough control over the color channels. I'll PM you the script tonight and if it's something that looks promising, I'll tell you how to tweak it for your purposes.

-G

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dark_jedi said:

I think Ady said the opening is upconverted on the German .TS,that is why I use the English version up until the first scene change,I have only messed with ANH and ESB so far.

Upscaling is one thing, but re-timing and re-framing of shots - that's something else!!

Funnily enough my After Effects doesn't seem to like the Lagarith Files I created - If I double-click on the items in my asset bin they preview fine, but I just get black frames in my composition window.  At present just using uncompressed AVIs for the edit parts.

Looking forward to seeing any results of G-force's scripts - the GOUT results have been very impressive and I have 3 films to get through before I hit the original trilogy!

Anyway, what is the colorspace you are using? There may have to be some conversion in between, and I know I had to convert to RGB to get enough control over the color channels. I'll PM you the script tonight and if it's something that looks promising, I'll tell you how to tweak it for your purposes.

I think it's either YUY2 or YV12 - x264 requests YV12 whereas Cinevision seems to work better with YUY2.

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OK here are some "rough" samples of some simple\basic color correcting for ESB,what do you think?

I am sure you can tell which is the source LOL

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vaderios said:

I think it looks too magenta.


-Angel

 

Agreed. DJ, I sent you the wrong numbers (from memory).

So you talked me into sending you the script from memory for "just for playin around", and then go and post the results. Oh well. ;)

Here is the actual script that seemed to work well for ANH:

Levels(0,1.5,255,0,255)
yv12 = last
ConvertToRGB32
r=ShowRed.  Levels(0,.75,255,10,255)
g=ShowGreen.Levels(0,.80,255,10,200)
b=ShowBlue. Levels(0,.75,255,10,190)
MergeRGB(r,g,b)
ConvertToYV12
MergeChroma(yv12,last)

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g-force said:
vaderios said:

I think it looks too magenta.


-Angel

 

Agreed. DJ, I sent you the wrong numbers (from memory).

So you talked me into sending you the script from memory for "just for playin around", and then go and post the results. Oh well. ;)

Here is the actual script that seemed to work well for ANH:

Levels(0,1.5,255,0,255)
yv12 = last
ConvertToRGB32
r=ShowRed.  Levels(0,.75,255,10,255)
g=ShowGreen.Levels(0,.80,255,10,200)
b=ShowBlue. Levels(0,.75,255,10,190)
MergeRGB(r,g,b)
ConvertToYV12
MergeChroma(yv12,last)

 

It's all in fun man,I surely are not serious yet,but even with the magenta look it still looks way better than the source,and if you read closer you will see I put "rough" in there,just havin some fun man,just havin some fun.

 

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This is starting to frustrate the friggin shit out of me now,every single time I make a sample to check on my PS3 and BDP-S350 they stutter on the S350,I tried making AVCHD's and Blu-ray using TSmuxer and MultiAVCHD,and burning to a DVD-RW,could using an RW be the problem? also does not matter which encoder I use to,whether it be MeGUI using the free x264,or Sonics CineVision,same shit,but plays smoothly on the PC,and from the PS3,just won't boot and play from the PS3,I have to locate the file then play it.

So does anyone have any idea's here so I can get something friggin finished already LOL,this is really trying my patience,and I have none already to try.

 

@g-force,do you have anything for ESB yet or just ANH?

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Could be DVD-RW issue - some players may check the media rather than the content and throw up an error.  Should be a bitrate issue, as it should follow the 3 x DVD-ROM rule so 30Mbps read speed.

Don't know if this forum topic over at doom9 is of any help:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=149104

 

Has anyone attempted a colour correction script for the Prequel films?  I know Adywan did all of his by hand in After Effects, individually masking items, but I'm wondering if anyone has done a general colour correction?

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I can make AVCHD Discs all day without a hitch(knocks on wood)so maybe it is a bitrate plus DVD-RW issue,because the clip was encoded at 25mb bitrate LOL,AVCHD discs are only what 7-9mb bitrate.

maybe I could try lowering it(bitrate)and see what happens,my BD SL & DL RE's won't be here until next week sometime,my drive should be here any moment now today.

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Well I tried dropping the bitrate down to 9mb and did a 5 1\2 min clip and it stuttered 6 times in 1 scene and then the rest played fine and looked great,so I am thinking it is a DVD-RW problem,soon as I get my BD-RE's they should play just fine,I hope.

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Sounds like it - btw, just a heads up, but I find DL-RE discs take a huge amount of time to burn - IMGBurn has an option whereby it re-writes the data automatically as it's burning if it doesn't burn it correctly the first time -  make sense?

I think my record was something like 4+ hours, perhaps longer at 0.8x speed.  In comparisson, a DL-R took about an hour, but obviously cost more $$$.

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Very cool looking project, DJ. Always happy to see your work.

FE<3OT

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Just wanted to let everyone know I am still working on this,been messing with the color again,will have some screen for you to look at soon,I need feedback,whether good or bad.

Thanks

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Here are some screens,and be ready for a screen shot blitz LOL,I wanted to grab screens from all over the entire film,so take a look and please give me some feedback,unless you guys think we should just leave it alone and encode the video untouched,well here goes.

also pretty certain you can tell which is source and which is not.

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Are you going shot-by-shot, scene-by-scene, or just doing one pass over the whole movie?  I'd recommend at least going scene-by-scene, though you'll get the best results by going shot-by-shot, obviously (though it's much more work).

The reason I ask is that the Dagobah shots look pretty awesome, but the rest are far too heavily red-shifted, so it seems to me that you're just averaging out the whole movie and applying the same CC to the whole thing.  I could easily be wrong, though.  But I think you're on the right track.

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You are right it is a 1 pass through deal,I have NO patience for a scene by scene fix,so I am looking for something that is at least "better" than the source,if not,then I will just do it for my own personal tastes for myself,or I will do an untouched version.

So if taking a little of the red out as you say fixes(or at least makes the other scenes look better) but the Dagobah scene hinders a bit,well I can live with most scenes looking a little better than a few,but as I said,just trying to make it overall better than the source.

1 more thing,my Pioneer BDR-203 is finally installed! now just need some Blu-ray rewritable discs to start doing some testing.

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I like some but others are way to redish.

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Are these screens any better? and if not which screen\screens are not and why.

Thanks again for looking

 

 

 

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The recent batch looks great!

I think the only things that look a little odd is the shot of Luke in the speeder looks a little more pale than your first render.  And the last shot of Leia, Lando and Chewie in the cockpit looks a bit overprocessed.  Maybe that is just me.

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Shot 1: Has a red tint in the high levels

Shot 2: looks very washed out. No colouring in the face and mouth and the contrast levels seem way off

Shot 3: Doesn't look too bad but the reds are washed out and there does look to be some issues with the levels

Shot 4: has a green tint to it

Shot 5: Again has a red/ pink tint in the high level areas and looks too desaturated

Shot 6: Looks ok, maybe boost the saturation levels very slightly

Shot 7: looks pretty good :)

Shot 8: Gamma levels way to high. Dark areas are just a wash with noise

Shot 9: Not too bad but a little too washed out again and contrast levels need tweaking

Shot 9: Again has a pink tint and the blues are a little too shifted towards cyan

Shot 10: Too much blue has been removed. It's too monochromatic with a slight green shift.

Shot 11: Looks almost sepia, but i know just how bad some of these cockpit shots are with the colouring to begin with

 

What method are you using for the colour correction?  One thing i found out about these movies is just how much the colour pallet changes from shot to shot. For instance just looks at the shot of 3PO in the command centre as it gets hit and the thing explodes behind him. The whole shot is green. Whoever did the colouring on the official transfers really must be colour blind. lol

 

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