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I’m working on fanedits for all the episodic films. Here’s a link to my idea list. Keep in mind that many of these are just ideas to consider, and I may not use them. In fact, some contradict each other. Those that are crossed out have already been fully implemented in my edits.

Main Goals:

  • Make edits close enough to the canon cuts to replace them. In other words, you should be able to watch these edits instead of the originals without getting lost when you discuss them with fans because they did something too different. This is why I will not be changing any of the titles. You should be able to watch the animated series afterwards without any contradictions. However, there are a few canon-altering that I will be making that I deem necessary sacrifices.

  • Cut out dumb plot points, canon be damned. I’m mainly talking about Leia being a Skywalker, Death Star II, and Death Star III, but there are numerous minor offenders as well.

  • Make the films more tonally consistent. I will be cutting out a lot of the out-of-place and/or over-the-top humor in the ST (though I think I’ll include those gags in post-credits). I’ll try to lighten the mood in the Prequels AotC (TPM is already pretty light, and the start of RotS is too, while the rest of it kinda has to be heavy). I will try to minimize all the talk scenes in the Prequels.

  • Make the films more stylistically consistent when necessary. I’m sorry JJ, but you just can’t end a SW saga film with a moving shot. It’s not even a good moving shot. Also, where’d the main theme go in the Prequels?

  • Make the color connotations more consistent. Good and the Light Side should be blue, while evil and the Dark Side should be red. Green is balance. For example, the blue things in the Emperor’s throne room will become red, and the Alderaan security troopers seen aboard the Tantive IV will fire blue blaster bolts. Not sure what I’m going to do with Mace’s purple lightsaber.

  • Refine each trilogy’s sense of narrative and visual identity. What I mean is that it should be easy to tell which trilogy a film is in by things like ships, villains, and whatnot without it feeling too different in each film of a trilogy. The PT lacks consistency, while the ST apes on the OT. I will be adding Dooku and the Seperatists to TPM to give the PT a unifying villain and opposing faction. I will attempt to minimize OT imagery in the ST. New planets will look more distinct from old ones. I will also try my best to rework the plot of TFA so as to be less derivative of ANH’s.

  • Adjust the ST so as to not undo all the accomplishments of the OT heroes. Han and Chewie will be generals of the Resistance searching for Poe, not just smugglers. The Republic won’t be destroyed by some miraculously built superweapon; it will be divided in a proxy war between senators funding the First Order and senators funding the Resistance. Not sure what I’m gonna do about Luke’s new Jedi Order.

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I’ve moved everything to this thread.

Here’s some in depth analysis of a couple of my ideas.

JEDIT: I’ve moved the following text from the first post to clear it up so it can focus more on the broad points.

I want to make Dooku the unifying villain of the Prequels, like Darth Vader is in the Originals. That means he should be in every film of the trilogy. We’d cast someone new as a younger Dooku and have them chroma keyed into an existing scene.

The obvious choice would be to have him as Jedi on Coruscant. He could talk to Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan. The only scene that would really work is the balcony scene, where Obi-Wan tells him that if he wasn’t so radical, he’d be on the council. At that point, Dooku could step in and take Qui-Gon’s side.

A post-credits scene of him ordering the Clone Army would be neat (in my edits, he is Syfo-Dyas (yes that contradicts TCW, but it’s just a single episode, so I can overlook it)), but wouldn’t make much sense, as it would spoil the mystery of the next movie, has no relevance to this movie’s plot, and SW doesn’t do post-credits scenes anyway.

An alternative would be having him already left the Jedi and replacing Sidious with him. I’d rather not due this for the simple reason that I don’t want to contradict TCW, which makes it clear that Maul was Sidious’s apprentice, not Tyrannus’s. I guess he could be neither a Sith nor a Jedi at that point, working as a middle man between Sidious and Maul, but it would be odd for a Sith master not to speak to his apprentice directly like that.

The main problem with TPM IMO (aside from feeling redundant) is that the main character is Qui-Gon instead of Obi-Wan. It’s especially true on Tatooine. How can we remedy this? It’s not within our abilities to just add him to the Tatooine part, so we should try to give him something else to do. Unfortunately, all we have to work with is shots of him on the ship.

I was thinking maybe we could have him encounter one of Maul’s probes while hanging out on the ship. Instead of Maul finding Qui-Gon, he finds the ship. It gives them a reason to run without having to re-add that scene of Qui-Gon killing the drone. The problem would be making a scene of Obi-Wan taking out the drone. I doubt it’d be feasible. At most, we could have him spot the drone on the ship’s sensors and alert the crew. I suppose they could shoot the drone with ship, but at that point, we might as well just let the drone get away, as it wouldn’t be Obi-Wan personally dealing with it.

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Nice one and thank you 😃

 

 

Cadavra posted the following on 2-Oct-2017 9:08 PM…

'Interesting idea. I’m a proponent of incorporating Dooku into TPM as well. I’m no editor, but it seems to me the simplest way to do so (not to mention the way that would least contradict existing canon) would be to add a brief scene of him watching Qui-Gon’s funeral. You could either edit the back of his head into the foreground of an exterior shot of the temple, to have him back on Naboo but keeping his distance from the Jedi, or the AOTC footage (including one of the deleted scenes) of him sitting at the conference table could be repurposed into him watching a hologram of the funeral.

Throw in a line or two spiced together from Dooku and Saruman dialogue – vaguely talking about going to war, “the Republic cannot be fixed,” or something to that effect – and the result could be really cool.’

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No green Lightsabers until Return of the Jedi. All PT Jedi have blue lightsabers.

I’ve always loved this idea, but keep in mind how difficult it’s gonna be to get the color exact. I tried to do this in my fanedits but the former-greens never looked close enough.

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SparkySywer said:

No green Lightsabers until Return of the Jedi. All PT Jedi have blue lightsabers.

I’ve always loved this idea, but keep in mind how difficult it’s gonna be to get the color exact. I tried to do this in my fanedits but the former-greens never looked close enough.

There’s a simple fix for this.

Black and white Prequels!

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Not a bad idea if executed well.

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Cadavra posted the following on 2-Oct-2017 9:08 PM…

Throw in a line or two spiced together from Dooku and Saruman dialogue – vaguely talking about going to war, “the Republic cannot be fixed,” or something to that effect – and the result could be really cool.’

Keep in mind we also have all of TCW to work with. It may not be Christopher Lee (theatrical pilot aside), but it sounds exactly like him.

Good idea inserting Dooku in the funeral, but that’s by no means sufficient. I want him to actually have a role in the film, preferably a villainous one. Like I said, I want him to be to the PT what Vader was to the OT. Darth Maul, meanwhile, would be like Tarkin, or Boba Fett. I might replace Sidious with Dooku in some scenes. He could introduce Darth Maul as his associate, rather than apprentice.

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I’ve made a proof-of-concept preliminary version of one of the scenes that integrates Dooku in TPM. The idea for this scene comes from the edit Dawn of War.

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TV’s Frink said:

You can ignore _ender, we all should. At least until he stops the generalizations and starts naming names when he’s complaining about people. :p

With that said, why is this called Ender’s Cut anyway?

What a grouchy thing to say! 😛

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Like I’ve said before, I didn’t call myself Ender on this site to avoid confusion with a certain local Sith Lord. I then immediately regretted that decision. Even if I can’t manage to change my username (which I hope to), I will still refer to myself as Ender because that’s what I always go by on the Web (I don’t have the courage to introduce myself as such irl, but maybe some day). For all intents and purposes, it’s my name.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

Like I’ve said before, I didn’t call myself Ender on this site to avoid confusion with a certain local Sith Lord. I then immediately regretted that decision. Even if I can’t manage to change my username (which I hope to), I will still refer to myself as Ender because that’s what I always go by on the Web (I don’t have the courage to introduce myself as such irl, but maybe some day). For all intents and purposes, it’s my name.

One of you is going to have to change to Andrew or Speaker or something