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The ships look great. The people? Yikes. Also, the trailer has twice as more dislikes than likes? Wow, why?

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Personally I think it looks like a videogame from 10 years ago when cel shading was a big fad. But I don’t care for this type of show in general. As for the viewer reaction, it looks like a kids show. People don’t like the suggestion that SW is for general viewing, they want to feel like big adults. While watching a Disney channel show.

Yub Nub for life

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Looks like an average animated TV show for 5 year olds. I’ll pass.

Oh, come on. It’s at least for 7 year olds.

I am getting major Titan A.E. vibes, which isn’t good or bad.

I certainly don’t get that vibe, which is a shame 'cause I really like that movie. Speaking of which…

Oh, I agree! That looks pretty good! I found it ironic that Titan A.E. caught some flak for doing the same when anime has been blending the two since Lensman in 1984.

The CGI was not made to blend in. It was not cel-shaded or anything. It was like Time Jam’s CGI.

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It seems the Resistance trailer has not been recieved very well. The like/dislike ratio is 1:2 on youtube. Compare this to the 30:1 ratio for the upcoming Clone Wars season.

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DrDre said:

It seems the Resistance trailer has not been recieved very well. The like/dislike ratio is 1:2 on youtube. Compare this to the 30:1 ratio for the upcoming Clone Wars season.

I doubt if those clicking like and dislike on YouTube are actually the Target demographic. I wouldn’t worry about it.

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dahmage said:

DrDre said:

It seems the Resistance trailer has not been recieved very well. The like/dislike ratio is 1:2 on youtube. Compare this to the 30:1 ratio for the upcoming Clone Wars season.

I doubt if those clicking like and dislike on YouTube are actually the Target demographic. I wouldn’t worry about it.

Shouldn’t the target demographic be in bed at 10pm? The time it is being broadcast seems to suggest LFM is not aiming this solely at children, although the trailer doesn’t seem to have a broad appeal. So, it’s sending mixed signals in my view.

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DrDre said:

dahmage said:

DrDre said:

It seems the Resistance trailer has not been recieved very well. The like/dislike ratio is 1:2 on youtube. Compare this to the 30:1 ratio for the upcoming Clone Wars season.

I doubt if those clicking like and dislike on YouTube are actually the Target demographic. I wouldn’t worry about it.

Shouldn’t the target demographic be in bed at 10pm? The time it is being broadcast seems to suggest LFM is not aiming this solely at children, although the trailer certainly has somewhat of a childish tone.

No Star Wars show is just for kids. But premiering it at 10 doesn’t magically mean it’s not primarily for kids, which it obviously is.

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That was a pretty poor trailer. It felt more in tone with The Freemakers than Rebels.

Really, really dislike the character design. Cell shading always make things look cheap.

Regardless, I’m still hoping for the best.

Help finish ROTJ: Revisited!

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DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

dahmage said:

DrDre said:

It seems the Resistance trailer has not been recieved very well. The like/dislike ratio is 1:2 on youtube. Compare this to the 30:1 ratio for the upcoming Clone Wars season.

I doubt if those clicking like and dislike on YouTube are actually the Target demographic. I wouldn’t worry about it.

Shouldn’t the target demographic be in bed at 10pm? The time it is being broadcast seems to suggest LFM is not aiming this solely at children, although the trailer certainly has somewhat of a childish tone.

No Star Wars show is just for kids. But premiering it at 10 doesn’t magically mean it’s not primarily for kids, which it obviously is.

If it is not solely for kids then those liking or disliking it on youtube are part of the target demographic, and premiering it on a time where only grownups can watch it strongly suggests this is the case. If so, while the show may be primarily for kids, it should still have a broad appeal, and while it’s too early to judge the series on the basis of a trailer, the trailer thusfar seems to have failed to appeal to that broader audience. I’m sure kids will love it though.

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DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

dahmage said:

DrDre said:

It seems the Resistance trailer has not been recieved very well. The like/dislike ratio is 1:2 on youtube. Compare this to the 30:1 ratio for the upcoming Clone Wars season.

I doubt if those clicking like and dislike on YouTube are actually the Target demographic. I wouldn’t worry about it.

Shouldn’t the target demographic be in bed at 10pm? The time it is being broadcast seems to suggest LFM is not aiming this solely at children, although the trailer certainly has somewhat of a childish tone.

No Star Wars show is just for kids. But premiering it at 10 doesn’t magically mean it’s not primarily for kids, which it obviously is.

If it is not solely for kids then those liking or disliking it on youtube are part of the target demographic, and premiering it on a time where only grownups can watch it strongly suggests this is the case. If so, while the show may be primarily for kids, it should still have a broad appeal, and while it’s too early to judge the series on the basis of a trailer, the trailer thusfar seems to have failed to appeal to that broader audience. I’m sure kids will love it though.

YouTube is not the “broader audience.” And nothing that’s on Disney channel or Disney XD isn’t primarily targeting kids, doesn’t matter what time it premieres.

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It looks very ugly. I’ll probably watch it, for completism. And Rebels had good moments, especially when Dave Filoni was showrunning it. I’ll give it a try anyway.

“I have to say that I felt George’s group of six films had more innovative visual imagination, and this film was more of a retrenchment to things you had seen before and characters you had seen before, and it took a few baby steps forward with new characters.” - James Cameron about Episode VII.

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DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

dahmage said:

DrDre said:

It seems the Resistance trailer has not been recieved very well. The like/dislike ratio is 1:2 on youtube. Compare this to the 30:1 ratio for the upcoming Clone Wars season.

I doubt if those clicking like and dislike on YouTube are actually the Target demographic. I wouldn’t worry about it.

Shouldn’t the target demographic be in bed at 10pm? The time it is being broadcast seems to suggest LFM is not aiming this solely at children, although the trailer certainly has somewhat of a childish tone.

No Star Wars show is just for kids. But premiering it at 10 doesn’t magically mean it’s not primarily for kids, which it obviously is.

If it is not solely for kids then those liking or disliking it on youtube are part of the target demographic, and premiering it on a time where only grownups can watch it strongly suggests this is the case. If so, while the show may be primarily for kids, it should still have a broad appeal, and while it’s too early to judge the series on the basis of a trailer, the trailer thusfar seems to have failed to appeal to that broader audience. I’m sure kids will love it though.

YouTube is not the “broader audience.” And nothing that’s on Disney channel or Disney XD isn’t primarily targeting kids, doesn’t matter what time it premieres.

Youtube is a subsection of the broader audience. Star Wars is and always has been targeting a broader audience. Anything Star Wars related is always also targeted towards the fans, who are the big spenders in this franchise.

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DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

dahmage said:

DrDre said:

It seems the Resistance trailer has not been recieved very well. The like/dislike ratio is 1:2 on youtube. Compare this to the 30:1 ratio for the upcoming Clone Wars season.

I doubt if those clicking like and dislike on YouTube are actually the Target demographic. I wouldn’t worry about it.

Shouldn’t the target demographic be in bed at 10pm? The time it is being broadcast seems to suggest LFM is not aiming this solely at children, although the trailer certainly has somewhat of a childish tone.

No Star Wars show is just for kids. But premiering it at 10 doesn’t magically mean it’s not primarily for kids, which it obviously is.

If it is not solely for kids then those liking or disliking it on youtube are part of the target demographic, and premiering it on a time where only grownups can watch it strongly suggests this is the case. If so, while the show may be primarily for kids, it should still have a broad appeal, and while it’s too early to judge the series on the basis of a trailer, the trailer thusfar seems to have failed to appeal to that broader audience. I’m sure kids will love it though.

YouTube is not the “broader audience.” And nothing that’s on Disney channel or Disney XD isn’t primarily targeting kids, doesn’t matter what time it premieres.

Youtube is a subsection of the broader audience. Star Wars is and always has been. Anything Star Wars related is always also targeted towards the fans, who are the big spenders in this franchise.

The hardcore fans will watch it whether they dislike the trailer or not. But they are ultimately a minority.

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DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

dahmage said:

DrDre said:

It seems the Resistance trailer has not been recieved very well. The like/dislike ratio is 1:2 on youtube. Compare this to the 30:1 ratio for the upcoming Clone Wars season.

I doubt if those clicking like and dislike on YouTube are actually the Target demographic. I wouldn’t worry about it.

Shouldn’t the target demographic be in bed at 10pm? The time it is being broadcast seems to suggest LFM is not aiming this solely at children, although the trailer certainly has somewhat of a childish tone.

No Star Wars show is just for kids. But premiering it at 10 doesn’t magically mean it’s not primarily for kids, which it obviously is.

If it is not solely for kids then those liking or disliking it on youtube are part of the target demographic, and premiering it on a time where only grownups can watch it strongly suggests this is the case. If so, while the show may be primarily for kids, it should still have a broad appeal, and while it’s too early to judge the series on the basis of a trailer, the trailer thusfar seems to have failed to appeal to that broader audience. I’m sure kids will love it though.

YouTube is not the “broader audience.” And nothing that’s on Disney channel or Disney XD isn’t primarily targeting kids, doesn’t matter what time it premieres.

Youtube is a subsection of the broader audience. Star Wars is and always has been. Anything Star Wars related is always also targeted towards the fans, who are the big spenders in this franchise.

The hardcore fans will watch it whether they dislike the trailer or not. But they are ultimately a minority.

The hardcore fans are an exponent of the general audience, and they are expected to like Star Wars related material more, not less. So, the fact that a majority appears to be less than enthousiastic about this series is telling. They will watch it, and complain of course, but I’m also convinced at least part of the problem here is, that the ST has less appeal than the OT and PT eras to many fans. There doesn’t seem to be much interest, or buzz surrounding the series. I guess time will tell, if this series and the upcoming live action series will be able to generate more interest for the post-ROTJ period. I believe this series and the live action series are supposed to increase anticipation for episode IX, so a less than enthousiastic reception from the fans would not be a good thing. However, it’s early days. It may turn out great.

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More likely ST haters trying desperately to prove such.

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DominicCobb said:

More likely ST haters trying desperately to prove such.

There’s no doubt TLJ was a divisive movie, and that enthousiasm for the ST era has dropped considerably in parts of the fanbase because of it. So, there’s no need to prove anything. If there’s less appeal in the ST era, it’s because the powers that be failed to generate it. That’s not the fans’ fault.

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If it airs at 10 pm, that is a bit odd. Maybe that is sorta normal for unproven shows? Something has to go in that slot.

I assume there will be reruns aired in different time slots? I don’t pay much attention to how networks organize themselves, so just conjecture on my part.

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DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

More likely ST haters trying desperately to prove such.

There’s no doubt TLJ was a divisive movie, and that enthousiasm for the ST era has dropped considerably in parts of the fanbase because of it. So, there’s no need to prove anything. If there’s less appeal in the ST era, it’s because the powers that be failed to generate it. That’s not the fans’ fault.

It’s not a matter of enthusiasm. If fans were just unenthusiastic they would just not watch the trailer and not bother to press dislike. The dislike ratio is just indicative of petty and pathetic fans trying to prove that “new Star Wars bad, Clone Wars good” as if anyone cares.

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dahmage said:

If it airs at 10 pm, that is a bit odd. Maybe that is sorta normal for unproven shows? Something has to go in that slot.

I assume there will be reruns aired in different time slots? I don’t pay much attention to how networks organize themselves, so just conjecture on my part.

No idea honestly, but it’s premiering on Disney channel and then switching to XD where it will have its regular airings. So I imagine that’s part of it.

Or maybe they’re trying to tell us this show is supposed to be for adults, I guess that makes total sense too.

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DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

More likely ST haters trying desperately to prove such.

There’s no doubt TLJ was a divisive movie, and that enthousiasm for the ST era has dropped considerably in parts of the fanbase because of it. So, there’s no need to prove anything. If there’s less appeal in the ST era, it’s because the powers that be failed to generate it. That’s not the fans’ fault.

It’s not a matter of enthusiasm. If fans were just unenthusiastic they would just not watch the trailer and not bother to press dislike. The dislike ratio is just indicative of petty and pathetic fans trying to prove that “new Star Wars bad, Clone Wars good” as if anyone cares.

Why is it pathetic to express dislike in the direction taken by your favourite franchise? Not being enthousiastic about the future of a property is not considered a good thing by fans of that property in general, and people tend to respond to that sort of thing. If you’re a fan, being indifferent to a new series is considered to be the anti-thesis, of what being a fan is all about, and so in the eyes of those fans it is an extremely negative thing. Your reaction is akin to telling people to just not care, be indifferent, and stop being a fan.

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DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

More likely ST haters trying desperately to prove such.

There’s no doubt TLJ was a divisive movie, and that enthousiasm for the ST era has dropped considerably in parts of the fanbase because of it. So, there’s no need to prove anything. If there’s less appeal in the ST era, it’s because the powers that be failed to generate it. That’s not the fans’ fault.

It’s not a matter of enthusiasm. If fans were just unenthusiastic they would just not watch the trailer and not bother to press dislike. The dislike ratio is just indicative of petty and pathetic fans trying to prove that “new Star Wars bad, Clone Wars good” as if anyone cares.

Why is it pathetic to express dislike in the direction taken by your favourite franchise? Not being enthousiastic about the future of a property is not considered a good thing by fans of that property in general, and people tend to respond to that sort of thing, just like they did in the PT era. If you’re a fan, being indifferent to a new series is considered to be the anti-thesis of what being a fan is all about, and so in the eyes of those fans it is an extremely negative thing. Your reaction is akin to telling people to just not care, and stop being a fan.

It’s pathetic because their “dislike” isn’t necessarily indicative of their actual feelings for the trailer, but to try to prove a tangential point of some sort.

As for the rest, that’s silly. Star Wars puts out plenty of stuff. Being a fan doesn’t mean you have to have a strong reaction to anything. In fact that mindset is part of the problem these days. You don’t have to have a strong reaction to everything, especially not a 1 minute trailer for a show that’s not necessarily even for them to begin with. Take Forces or Destiny for example. Fans lost their shit over that. They feel entitled. It’s pathetic.

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DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

More likely ST haters trying desperately to prove such.

There’s no doubt TLJ was a divisive movie, and that enthousiasm for the ST era has dropped considerably in parts of the fanbase because of it. So, there’s no need to prove anything. If there’s less appeal in the ST era, it’s because the powers that be failed to generate it. That’s not the fans’ fault.

It’s not a matter of enthusiasm. If fans were just unenthusiastic they would just not watch the trailer and not bother to press dislike. The dislike ratio is just indicative of petty and pathetic fans trying to prove that “new Star Wars bad, Clone Wars good” as if anyone cares.

Why is it pathetic to express dislike in the direction taken by your favourite franchise? Not being enthousiastic about the future of a property is not considered a good thing by fans of that property in general, and people tend to respond to that sort of thing, just like they did in the PT era. If you’re a fan, being indifferent to a new series is considered to be the anti-thesis of what being a fan is all about, and so in the eyes of those fans it is an extremely negative thing. Your reaction is akin to telling people to just not care, and stop being a fan.

It’s pathetic because their “dislike” isn’t necessarily indicative of their actual feelings for the trailer, but to try to prove a tangential point of some sort.

Which is an assumption on your part. I’m sure there are those that do, but for myself I find myself feeling indifferent to the ST era in general in the wake of TLJ, and this trailer hasn’t changed that.

As for the rest, that’s silly. Star Wars puts out plenty of stuff. Being a fan doesn’t mean you have to have a strong reaction to anything. In fact that mindset is part of the problem these days. You don’t have to have a strong reaction to everything, especially not a 1 minute trailer for a show that’s not necessarily even for them to begin with. Take Forces or Destiny for example. Fans lost their shit over that. They feel entitled. It’s pathetic.

It’s kind of ironic that many of the same people that blew a fuse in the PT era, and spent their days complaining about it, are now telling others to lighten up. The problem these days is not the reaction to the property, it’s the reaction of fans towards other fans, creators, actors, and what not, and your reaction is indicative of that problem. There’s just so little respect, and empathy going around these days. That is what’s truly pathetic.

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I honestly enjoy seeing you always try to spin what I’m saying back around on me. It’s quite enjoyable really and happens without fail, even if you have to twist yourself into nonsensical contortions to do so.

Respect and empathy is something I value more than most honestly, but sometimes you just have to call it like you see it. A lot of the fans are entitled and honestly acting like children. I fully understand why they are, and I respect that they have a right to do so, but that doesn’t mean I can’t criticize them. Pathetic is the exact right word for it. Especially when most of these same people harass creators and others. At that point no respect is deserved and none will be given.

Also, if you’re implying I blew my fuse during the PT era, you couldn’t be further off base.

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DominicCobb said:

I honestly enjoy seeing you always try to spin what I’m saying back around on me. It’s quite enjoyable really and happens without fail, even if you have to twist yourself into nonsensical contortions to do so.

Respect and empathy is something I value more than most honestly, but sometimes you just have to call it like you see it. A lot of the fans are entitled and honestly acting like children. I fully understand why they are, and I respect that they have a right to do so, but that doesn’t mean I can’t criticize them. Pathetic is the exact right word for it. Especially when most of these same people harass creators and others. At that point no respect is deserved and none will be given.

Also, if you’re implying I blew my fuse during the PT, you couldn’t be further off base.

I’m not spinning anything. You are not just criticizing toxic elements in the fandom, you are conflating criticisms and negative reactions to a property with harrassment. You are generalizing when you state, that most of these same people harass creators and others. That is what is nonsensical, and disrespectful.

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DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

I honestly enjoy seeing you always try to spin what I’m saying back around on me. It’s quite enjoyable really and happens without fail, even if you have to twist yourself into nonsensical contortions to do so.

Respect and empathy is something I value more than most honestly, but sometimes you just have to call it like you see it. A lot of the fans are entitled and honestly acting like children. I fully understand why they are, and I respect that they have a right to do so, but that doesn’t mean I can’t criticize them. Pathetic is the exact right word for it. Especially when most of these same people harass creators and others. At that point no respect is deserved and none will be given.

Also, if you’re implying I blew my fuse during the PT, you couldn’t be further off base.

I’m not spinning anything. You are not just criticizing toxic elements in the fandom, you are conflating criticisms and negative reactions to a property with harrassment. You are generalizing when you state, that most of these same people harass creators and others. That is what is nonsensical, and disrespectful.

Well perhaps I could have said many not most, but to be clear I’m not talking about all people who criticize and I never was. I’m talking about people that go out of their way on comment sections to endlessly complain, who specifically dislike a video to try to prove a point - I’m talking about fans acting like children, and I think I actually made that pretty clear in my post. The thing is you’ll find many of these same people responding to Rian Johnson et al. saying that they ruined Star Wars and their childhood and all that.

So calm down and stop trying to look for a “gotcha” when there isn’t one and start actually paying attention to what I’m saying before you post. By acting like that, you are you’re participating in that same kind of combative and disrespectful fan discourse that you talk about.