From the new “The Darksaber of Mandalore” on S3.

31:25 - cut was weird, the hologram was there for less than a millisecond, so it kinda feels like Sabine’s mom just… entered the room, walked around, turned and left. I had to go back like three times to make sure there was a hologram closing. I don’t see a problem with us seeing that she is talking to Saxon, since we’ve just been told Saxon called her anyway, no? Maybe - if the intention is to leave the contents of their conversation more of a surprise till the next scene - at least leave the hologram opening or closing, or even them greeting each other, to flow a little better?

Other than that, it felt fantastic. Loved the new direction with the Sabine/Mandalorian arc! Guess having the Ahsoka series helps a lot on the long term.

Can you please send me the link?

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Would love a link to these, as well! Thanks!

justinbailey627 said:

Can you please send me the link?

THC1138 said:

Would love a link to these, as well! Thanks!

PM Sent 😃

Thanks for all that awesome feedback PsyGemini! I’ve saved it away for when I’ve got time to continue editing. Life’s been full on at the moment. I’m still working on S04E01 but I think it works a lot better then my V3 that’s for sure!

For the newest S3’s Zero Hour, I would honestly keep the scene with Thrawn and Bendu, for two reasons: (1) bendu’s hint at Thrawn’s defeat is beyond vague and somewhat of a poetic riddle, IMHO it doesn’t spoil anything whatsoever (or you could just rearrange it to Thrawn shooting him before he speaks about his impending doom); (2) the way it was left in, it looks like bendu was killed when shot at the storm, which is not the original intent (and we never see him again in this show, so it will make things quite confusing if/when he eventually returns to the franchise).

Or maybe you could have two versions of the episode, “Bendu lives” and “Bendu dies”?

Otherwise, great finale, can’t wait for v4 of the final season!

Any chance of a link? Sounds very impressive and I’ve always wanted to find an edit that is done a way I would enjoy the show the most

Hey! I would love to check this out, can you please send the link

Hi g00b, I watched Spark of the Rebellion and I really liked it, I already like the Rebels characters and plot but your edit really enchanced it with the intro, high quality recolor, cuts, etc. The only thing I didn’t like , and which IMO was a problem in TCWR also, are the transitions. The transition from the Inquisitor´s introduction to Ezra in the roof seemed to me kind of abrupt with the change in music, and the transition from Tarkintown to Lothal has a establishing shot of the city which seems too brief (although I don’t remember if the original had it like that). They are little details but the took me out a bit from the experience.

Perhaps in the first another establishing shot of Lothal could be added, to give more time for the music to transition more smoothly, and in the second case, simply slowing the shot would make the transition flawless, I think.

EDIT: I also wanted to say that now I watched until episode 5 and it has been a really good experience, I particularly enjoyed the Empire Day episode. I didn’t encounter any other super obvious edited transition yet.

I have a feedback for you:

Starting with Season 4 V4, you are going to revert the planned episodes back to original version, but you should only revamp the opening and ending, upscale and recolor the scenes. I know that you can edit this as quick as I can, but trimming the scenes aren’t going to remember what it will look like.

I am watching the Siege of Lothal episode with the Google Drive player and the voice of the Emperor sounds really strange. It’s the Ian McDiarmid one, but it sounds like it has interference (it fades away from moment to moment). The voice from Vader also sounds different to the rest of the sounds of the scenes (as if he was talking from a closed room) and it has some noise glitches, I think that might be because of the tone editing you did.

Hi everyone! Sorry it’s been a bit since my last update (it will be a while longer until the next). I’m saving all the feedback provided here for myself to review when I’ve got some spare time to keep editing (Something I have not had a lot of time of recently and for the next few months atleast). I’ve got my own wedding coming up aswell as parental and university commitments. But I’ll be right back at it once I’ve got more spare time ! 😄

Congratulations!

Hello! I would like a download for all the latest versions; this sounds really cool!!!

Broken_World said:

Any chance of a link? Sounds very impressive and I’ve always wanted to find an edit that is done a way I would enjoy the show the most

Would you be able to send the link to me too? Either of you?

SophieScholl said:

Hello! I would like a download for all the latest versions; this sounds really cool!!!

PM sent 😃

RELEASED S04E01 - The New Mandalore V4

Downloads

• 1080p version: available
• 1080p recolor: available
• 4K recolor: available
• Subtitles: available

Changes from V3

• For all downloads 5.1 Surround sound added
• Slight improvement to visual quality
• Smaller file size
• Updated intro helmet sequence
• Updated look to introduction text
  • Centred Text
  • Decreased size of Text
• Rewrote introduction text
• Replaced old intro with new one
• Added episode title card
• recut everything in this episode from scratch again to avoid any previous audio mistakes. (I believe I’ve missed some changes but I’ve recorded as much as I could!)
• cut Ezra and Sabine’s exposition dialogue to talk about if her father is inside as this is covered in the intro text.
• also cut the dialogue establishing some enemies for flow purposes.
• cut expositions lines between Sabine and Rau that explain they’re about to free her father, as this is covered in the intro text. I kept the shots however as they’re good visual story telling.
• cut some shots of Sabine getting in position for flow purposes.
• cut Sabine asking what was up with Ezra
• cut Ezra saying he wanted more practice with the jet pack
• cut Sabine saying he’ll pick it up because he’s a Jedi
• cut Chopper’s “on the fly” joke and Ezra’s response.
• cut Chopper sulking in the trench
• cut title card
• cut second shot of Sabine flying and dodging on the Jetpack for flow AND to cut Ezra being incompetent with the jetpack.
  • I’ve got a few reasons to cut Ezra being bad with the jetpack.
  1. He was shown to be relatively competent with thrusters in outer space in the S4 finale (literally the last episode), I would think these skills are somewhat comparable.
  2. It kind of diminishes the Season 3 finale where Kanan says he’s taught Ezra everything he needs.
  3. Comedic relief at the start of a season is not needed, in fact it’s quite jarring here.
• cut the whole Ezra struggling to fly and taking out two stormtroopers sequence.
• cut “well this just got more and more -” “interesting, the word you’re looking for is interesting” exchange between Ezra and Sabine.
• cut continuation of this joke.
• replaced fade to black with a wipe transition to help signify the passage of time.
• cut Sabine asking Rau to contact her mother when she was just told she was on her way and transmissions are blocked. Now Rau just leaves with them.
• cut a bunch of scenes about planning the strike to free Sabine’s father. The scenes themselves are fine but it’s odd they’re only planning now that the enemy is in view AND that Sabine’s mother has already diverted the forces. It feels like there is already a plan in motion.
  • I’ve cut from Rau identifying the convoy to when we have an establishing shot of them before the action gets going.
• cut Chopper taking out a stormtrooper during the action.
  • I don’t object to Chopper getting some take downs, but this trooper was already down and ALREADY getting back up. Makes the rest of the team feel incompetent so it’s gone.
• cut “Are you with Sabine?” and Ezra’s awkward reaction, Sabine’s dad asks him if Ezra is a Jedi immediately after and the barrage of questions feels odd, he can have just one.
• cut fade to black
• cut establishing shot as its no longer needed without the fade to black.
• cut Ezra’s commentary on Sabine’s father and family
  • It always felt weird to me that he comments on them. I guess its was for children watching so they can understand the dynamics a bit easier but this cut removes these sorts of things so its gone.
• cut Bo Katan’s exposition about “The Duchess”
• trimmed Sabine’s response to Ezra (cut “you heard my father”)
• cut title card
• cut all scenes of and Ursa and Triston Surviving “The Duchess” attack.
  • I’ve cut from Sabine crying about her parents to Rau identifying the Empire
• cut a shot of the Supercommandos firing at the Wrens.
• trimmed a shot of Ursa falling back with Sabines dad to remove them.
• cut Kanan saying to get Sabines “Mother and” “father out of here” so now he just stays father
• cut the shot directly after to avoid more VFX work.
• cut wide shot of the missile moving towards the speeder
• cut shot of speeder getting blown up
• cut “are you alright?” “better then the bike” exchange between Ursa and Ezra.
• trimmed the start of the next shot with Kanan so it flows better
• cut “they’ve cut us off” shot as it shows Ursa
• trimmed the shot when a Mando ship lands and Bo hurries everyone onboard to not show Ursa.
• cut audio of Ezra beginning the weird joke explained below. (I kept the video of Bo-Katan jumping out the ship)
• cut all shots with weird joke with Ezra thinking he’s being called a Mandalorian by Bo-Katan
• cut the slapstick Ezra getting hit by the TIE fighter sequences
• cuts scenes with Tristan and Ursa onboard the Mando ship.
• cut reaction shot of Ezra seeing Bo Katan pin Sabine to the wall as it has Ursa in it.
• cut a shot of Bo Katan looking at Sabine for pacing.
• cut Ezra asking why the Mando’s don’t just use a different metal for their armour followed by getting a Mando history lesson. Found the whole sections to be clunky
• cut shot of Ezra and Sabine getting ready to fight (doesn’t flow well thanks to the next cut)
• cut shot of Sabine’s family sticking up for her to the other Mandalorians.
• cut the scene planning the attack to remove Ursa and Triston
  • Used a wipe to connect these two scenes
• cut shot of Ezra and Triston looking at each other mid flight.
• cut Bo Katan overexplaining who the Duchess was
• cut Sabine saying “it was a series of bad decisions okay”
• cut the shot after the last for flow
• cut fade to black
• cut Ezra pulling up his visor to look into a battle and say “whoa”
• cut Ezra pulling his visor down as it was now never opened.
• cut Triston’s line when Ezra reconvenes after his mission
• repurposed shot of Ezra talking to Triston to make it to Rau.
• cut Rau asking Triston and Ezra to knock it off, took Ezra’s audio asking where Sabine is and placed it on the previous shot.
  • Used the remainder of this shot as normal.
• cut “What’s happening?” “The weapon’s been turned against the empire” … yes we know that Rau thanks.
• cut “Well… that looks bad.” line from Ezra… yes Ezra, that does look bad, we can see that! Kept the shot just removed the line.
• cut scene with Ezra running off for flow purposes.
• cut scene of Sabine, Bo and Ursa entering through a door to remove Ursa.
• cut some dialogue between Sabine and Bo so they get straight to business. It was just about the Empire coming after Bo Katan and has no real baring on the story Rebels is telling.
• trimmed shot of Sabine, Bo and Ursa opening the ship door to make the removal of Ursa easier
  • Removed Ursa from the shot
• cut shot of Bo Katarn, Sabine and Ursa walking down the ramp of Bo’s ship (wasn’t needed and it makes my CGI work easier).
• Added a generic Mando helmet over the shot that shows Tristan
  • Just took the Helmet from the Mando next to him, cleaned it up a bit and recolored it then resized and added motion.
• cut “Clan Wren is with you” from Ursa
• cut shot of Sabine first handing Bo Katan the Darksaber to avoid having to CGI Ursa out of the background, instead I’ve kept “Now I understand why this saber came to me” from Sabine and put it over the next few shots.
• cut the shot of Bo Katan Igniting the Darksaber as I was having trouble convincingly removing Ursa.
• Updated the look of the end credit ‘concept art’
  • Added a cracked paint effect to all concept art
  • Added a canvas texture to all concept art
• Created subtitles
• Added chapters, subtitles and both title card art options to the video file metadata.
• created new and old style title card artwork for the renamed episode.

For recolors only:

• Fixed colors for introduction sequence
• Fixed colors of end credit sequence

Viewing Notes

Episode is critical as it concludes a plot line for the series.

I didn’t expect to be able to release the next episode today but here it is! It’s probably one of the episodes I’ve substantially changed the most and although Sabine does not get a moment to talk to anyone about her brother and mother being killed, I think the change really works. Her rage against the Empire goes two fold after the incident, as they’ve used her weapon and killed her family. She gets to share a moment with her father (although it’s just a look) but what really sells this change for me is when she turns the duchess on the Empire. With this change I really believe she would have kept using it if it wasn’t for Bo-Katan.

I’m very interested in hearing feedback in regard to this episode, mostly because killing of a main characters parent and sibling is a more radical change, even if it doesn’t change the current canon too substantially.

I think my last post was buried at the end of the last page. Here it is, but condensed and edited:

honestabe said:

I think this will be my final feedback for the edit and will conclude with season 4, which are still V3 except episode 1. I have nothing for the epilogue nor the Tales of the Rebels.

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E1

3:48 trooper (Hark) says stand down Jedi, or she (Sabine) dies. Perhaps remove the word ‘Jedi.’

15:05 Saxon talks to Captain Hark who mentions renegades and their ‘Jedi allies.’ Yet again, we have too much widespread knowledge of living Jedi. Less is more.

If the Empire knows Jedi are coming to Mandalore with the trap they set up, wouldn’t they make sure to use massive amounts of force to take them out, such as Thrawn (Rukh) or more importantly, a task for Vader?

My impression of the episode was that preparations were made to fight other Mandalorians rather than Jedi. It makes the empire and Mandalorians look incompetent if the only thing they had was Sabine’s weapon and nothing more to combat the Jedi. If the Mandalorians were historic rivals of the Jedi, why not be better prepared?

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==> On a more important matter, I do agree with the deaths of Sabine’s brother and mother. However, there is a deafening silence the rest of the episode. It creates an awkward feeling when we do not see Sabine refer to them even one last time.

I wonder if there is a way to repurpose audio or even other [deleted] footage to have Sabine display some form of grief at the end of the episode. Even then, it may appear clunky. I think just a few seconds referring to them in some form (even indirectly) would provide closure to that change.

E2

24:35 Is there a better way for the troopers to become distracted than getting “attacked” by the small Lothal cats? Professional soldiers should be a bit more competent. Is there an editing trick that can make it appear as though the cats took something like a weapon to give the troopers a legitimate reason to chase them? Maybe audio from a trooper shouting that the cats took something.

27:18 The pilot, in a surprised manner, says, “a jedi, here?” Why does everybody seem to be familiar with the Jedi? The line could be cut straight to Thrawn’s dialogue.

30 The 2 troopers are shown still chasing the little cats. It really makes them look really stupid. This can just be cut completely. Does the Empire really have two doofuses who are easily distracted into chasing small cats instead of defending a top secret military program?

E3

34:29 2 troopers discuss Lothal bats. One of them says to ignore them because they are not as dangerous as the cats. Personally, the whole dangerous cats dialogue annoys me and I would remove that part.

Tiny cats are more dangerous than big flying bats?

E4

56:26 It sounds like Palpatine’s words are some sort of spell in the world between worlds. This comes across as more like magic from the Nightsisters versus a Sith lord using the force. I recommend removing his words. The Sith nor the Jedi never use magic words when they do anything with the force, including when they use lightning.

E5

In this episode, Mart Martin on several occasions stated Ezra entrusted him with a secret mission. I did not keep track of how many times it was said, but I personally think it was overkill for him to keep repeating himself. I do not believe the audience needs to be repeatedly reminded of the secret mission more than once. It minimizes the impact and surprise of bringing in the purrgil at the end.

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Thanks for that Honestabe!

To address the feedback for E1, I decided to keep in the moments of Hark talking about the Jedi. This was only because they are Mandalorian.

I do agree with your point for 15:05 that it does seem a bit too casual of a mention so I might change this if/when I review the episode at a later time 😃

Seeking feedback for this potential redub to address feedback from Honestabe “12:20 troopers discuss if they saw the Jedi master… The troopers look really stupid if they have no idea that they are guarding an empty prison cell. Their dialogue also functions as a strong hint or spoiler that this was a trap using a dead Jedi. Better left unstated and ambiguous. More secretive the better.”

I decided to keep the footage and attempt to redub the troopers. To that end I made it reference the conversations you can hear between stormtroopers in Jedi Outcast on the first level.

I’m not sure if I’ve made it a bit too silly or not, let me know what you all think.

https://youtu.be/7ftkev-u3gw

The redubbed lines work really well to humanize the troopers.

The last “We better get moving” should have the voice changed. To me, it sounds like a drunk guy getting strangled. I am sure you can play around with audio editing tools to get that quickly done.