After viewing tales of the Empire, I feel I could incorporate some of this content into Tales of the Rebels. I feel it’s appropriate. The morgon content aswell as potentially the Barris content.
On another note, it’ll be a little while until I release another episode. Im in the middle of assessment time for my studies and am conducting some house renovations that are taking my time away from editing.
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A big thanks to the feedback PsyGemini gave me on my maul episode back in January. I should be releasing that soon.
I’ve now finished the rough cut and have address all of their feedback. The episode works MUCH better now.
I’ve also decided to rename the episode from Maul to The Shadow. When editing this time around calling it Maul was too much of a spoiler for the early part of the episode. It also didn’t look right on the episode name card. The Shadow conveys the same information as Maul but is more open to suggestion. I feel it is a more appropriate title to the episode.
After finally looking at a reference image for Kessel from Solo (Thanks to TheDimitrios and his Rebels edit), I’ve decided I need to update my visual work on Kessel in Episode one. Here’s a before and after.
Before: (What’s in V4.7)
After: (What I’m currently working on)
Let me know what you think 😃
I think I need to up my game! xD
Looks great!
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Episode is essential viewing as it sets up major story events across the last 2 seasons and resolves the Maul plotline.
This look superb! Could I please have a link? 😃
I’ve been working on how to improve Thrawn’s appearances through season 3.
In the original, Thrawn appears, gets a major victory against the Rebels then allows them to escape as it’s not the larger rebellion.
His next appearance is on Ryloth where he accidentally runs into Hera. Uses this an an opportunity to study his opponent and let’s the ghost crew escape for some reason.
He then assigns Konstatine to deal with the rebels, who fails, in Iron Squadron. This one is odd, as at the beginning of that episode he appears confident Konstantine can handle the job.
He correctly identifies an inside helper for the rebellion in An Inside Job.
He then begins to make progress identifying where the Rebel base is in Warhead.
Thrawn then scores another win, identifying Agent Kallus as Fulcrum.
He then fails again in Secret Cargo.
And finally we hit the season finale where he ALMOST takes out the Rebels.
This character ark feels a bit all over the place. He’s portrayed as a brilliant military tactician but is constantly racking up loses compared to victories.
In the V4s, his character ark will progress like this:
S03E01 - Thrawn gets could get the win but holds off on eliminating the rebels as it’s not the greater force he knows they have.
S03E02 - He makes no appearance.
S03E03 - He is closing in on the Rebels home base
S03E04 - He draws Hera out to Cham to give him the opportunity to study his opponent. He still let’s the Ghost crew escape but as we know he’s looking for their base and wants ALL the rebels. I feel it makes much more sense now.
S03E05 - He makes no appearance
S03E06 - He correctly identifies Kallus as Fulcrum and uses that to his advantage.
S03E07 - He nearly takes out the Rebels.
I think this structure makes him a far more competent and threatening villain. He only loses once, at the end of the season. And only by something he couldn’t have accounted for, the Bendu. If anyone has any more suggestions on how to improve this, I’d love to hear it!
g00b, it is much appreciated that someone is trying to improve Thrawn’s uneven depiction in the show.
I am not sure if it is feasible, but is it at all possible to avoid or minimize anybody associated with the empire dealing with force users, particularly non-human. One of my biggest issues with the show was the amount of force use by Jedi, animals, and Bendu. In the OT, basically everyone thinks the force is mysterious, but in the show we have constant exposure - including by imperials who appear to have no awareness a short time later.
I think you should remove as much of Bendu’s dialogue as possible while he is functioning as a storm. I think you can also remove Thrawn confronting Bendu afterwards. His disappearing act is excessive and he spoils Thrawn’s later defeat as well.
I want to make this defeat appear from the empire’s vantage point like it came from a random storm as opposed to a force using being.
These are all very interesting (and very good) ideas! Thank you for sharing them. I’ll definitely keep this in mind when I’m reediting Zero Hour.
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Episode could potentially be skipped but it serves as a good look into Thrawn’s character AND sets up a plot thread followed up in season 4.
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That’s all of the audio in season 1 fixed! Along with added metadata and uploaded to multiple locations to provide choice in how to download/stream the edit. My next release should be another episode from Season 3, after I release the previous S3 episode 4K upscale haha.
Pending any feedback or things that need to be fixed. I’m considering season 1 complete at this stage 😃
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Episode further develops the Mandalorian plot line that concludes in season 4. If you like the Mando stuff this is essential.
I found editing this last episode really interesting knowing Sabine’s character ark in Ahsoka. I used to dislike the decision that Sabine was a Jedi but in this episode I think it’s actually foreshadowed very well. I’ll make my points just to see if anyone else wants to discuss this.
We open learning of Tarre Vizla, the first Mandalorian Jedi. I think this is really important to setup Sabine as force sensitive. It’s for the first time told the audience directly that Mandalorian can become force sensitive enough to become Jedi. Keeping in mind we open with this story in a Sabine centric ark.
In the original episode ONLY Hera says that Sabine “can’t use the force” and the idea is quickly shut down by Kanan saying that she is blocked to the force due to her emotional instability instead. This is later mirrored and further developed in Ahsoka.
While having her emotional moment before returning to camp with Ezra. Sabine catches the attention of the Bendu. A character up until this point who has only interacted with Jedi (He hid himself away from Maul specifically). Not to mention his first appearance was to aide in Kanan’s emotional instability after Malachor. The fact the Bendu notices Sabine’s instability to me was very interesting and felt quite intentional.
Kanan says that Sabine begins to connect with the Darksaber, which allows her to use it. Isn’t this precisely what Jedi do with their weapons?
Finally the last thing I noticed while editing the episode, at the very end of this ark, Sabine talks about how the Mandalorian way is not her way and underneath this speech and surrounding this line you can hear the force theme. I think this one is pretty self explanatory.
Anyway, I hope you enjoyed my observations!
Toning down the discussion and use of the force with Sabine (and others) is the correct decision. I also agree it helps set her up in the Ahsoka show better, but her force powers in that show need to be toned down as well, which is obviously outside the scope of this edit.
Having this show better connected to rest of the Star Wars universe is a great goal. When I first watched your edit, I was really watching the show for the first time. When I get the chance (no idea when exactly), I will watch again specifically to see how things can connect better with the broader Star Wars universe.
Thanks for the hard work.
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I can’t find the 1080p recolor at the usual place.
I can’t find the 1080p recolor at the usual place.
Whoops! Missed a spot to upload it to hahaha. I’m uploading it now, in the meantime I’ve sent you a DM with the link to the spreadsheet. All the links there should be working 😃 If you’d rather wait, it’ll be uploaded to Terabox in about 10 minutes or so.
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Episode is critical for character development, showing off Thrawn’s skill and threat and for setup into the finale of this season.
I’ve managed to polish up the AI lines I’ve used for the Sith Holocron to a standard that I’m VERY happy with, rather then a standard I’ll accept (what’s currently in the episode). I’ll be updating these lines when I revisit Twilight of the Apprentice and then I’ll fix up the lines in S03E01.
On the subject of AI lines, I’ve got a question to ask those out there who check on this forum. Rebels tends to use the film cast when extended universe characters appear (i.e., The Emperor, Vader, Yoda, Lando) but uses the Clone Wars cast for some (The clones, Obi-Wan, Anakin). I have the means to create convincing Temuera Morrison dialogue for the clones, and a Hayden Christensen Anakin. I’m currently looking into Ewan McGregor style Obi-Wan.
If I’m successful in my experiments with Obi-Wan, should I redo all these lines so Rebels is cohesively the movie cast to voice characters?