Star Wars: REBORN - The Complete Saga (* unfinished project *) — Page 18

The Neimoidian dubs are from Passion of the Christ, and yes, they were subbed, but it didn't make it into the clip, I guess.  Ian McDiarmid's narration was from the Musical Journey DVD.

The twin suns footage, which TJ did a great job creating using a shot from Dune, was to be part of Anakin's nightmare about his mother's death, which we never finished, so we added it to the prologue...  I like it both places.

As far as the virgin birth concept, I was never of the school that had any problem with it.  I liked the whole "Chosen One" thing.  In my opinion, the more steeped in mythology this series is, the better.  It makes Anakin kind of Biblical, or like one of the tragic Greek heroes.  I do wish it had been written so it actually had a point, but whatever...I've given up trying to rationalize George Lucas' careless storytelling.

Oh, and I thought the Vader construction / rise of the Empire thing was dropped from the prologue in the later versions so that it ended just on Palpatine's face at the funeral....I think we liked that better...the clip TJ released must've been from an earlier version.  I forget now...it's been a while since we worked on that portion.

InfoDroid said:

Oh, and I thought the Vader construction / rise of the Empire thing was dropped from the prologue in the later versions so that it ended just on Palpatine's face at the funeral....I think we liked that better...the clip TJ released must've been from an earlier version.  I forget now...it's been a while since we worked on that portion.

I don't believe I ever received that memo.

"Did ya get that memo?"  :)

We need to talk about your TPS reports...

Hahaha....Nice!

InfoDroid and TJdavis, I just checked out your prologue, and I must say it's amazing how you made Episode I not suck. It was actually quite moving.

I realize you are burned out on this (and Star Wars in general) right now. But a small part of me hopes that one day, perhaps years in the future, you will return to finish this project. There are simply too many great ideas.

Thanks, Erik. 

It looked better in our heads though.  It's like a painter imagining the perfect portrait, but instead of paint, he only has sand and rocks and acorns to work with.  He does the best he can to make the closest approximation, but it will never be the painting he sees in his head...and besides, no one wants to hang a collection of sand and rocks above their fireplace. 

That is our dilemma...  A tragedy of Shakespearean magnitude. 

LOL!  :P

--ID

i never thought of painting with acorns.  sounds fun!! :P

I just watched the prologue and thought it was great! If I continue it, I'd like to pull in Episode II into IV and the first half of III into V and the second half of III into VI.

Episode IV mentions the Clone Wars and Anakin, Episode II shows the Clone Wars and the Introduction of Anakin to the lars. Also the death of Shmi could tie into the death of the Lars.

Episode V talks about premonitions that Luke has about Han and Leia which could be tied into the premonitions Anakin has about Padme. Also when we find out Darth Vader is Luke's Father we see Anakin rise as Darth Vader.

Episode VI as the mask goes on the mask comes off in Episode III.

However, if I could get a list of the scenes that were predetermined and that have already been finished sent to me, that would be great!

I thought of something last night, based on some recent discussion: did the thought ever cross your minds (or the minds of any editors) to make a fully silent movie version of Star Wars? Then you could put in any crazy music you want without any worries of bleed, dialogue, sound effects, or any of that other jazz. And either vocal narration or classic onscreen writing could take care of any necessary story explanation.

I certainly think it could work!

I'll be posting sometime this week a full outline of how I plan on editing ANH

If music bleed were the only issue, we could always resort to dubbing. :p

Asteroid-Man said:

I just watched the prologue and thought it was great! If I continue it, I'd like to pull in Episode II into IV and the first half of III into V and the second half of III into VI.

Episode IV mentions the Clone Wars and Anakin, Episode II shows the Clone Wars and the Introduction of Anakin to the lars. Also the death of Shmi could tie into the death of the Lars.

Episode V talks about premonitions that Luke has about Han and Leia which could be tied into the premonitions Anakin has about Padme. Also when we find out Darth Vader is Luke's Father we see Anakin rise as Darth Vader.

Episode VI as the mask goes on the mask comes off in Episode III.

 

 

However, if I could get a list of the scenes that were predetermined and that have already been finished sent to me, that would be great!

Good thinking??

Did you read the synopsis ID wrote a few pages back?  You just described exactly what we were going to do.

The stuff that we finished I've uploaded.  That's really all there is. 

Oh ok I got it.

I think first thing's first though, to work a ANH timeline and build off of that. So let's see...

• Opening scrawl
  
• Tantive IV take over
• R2 meets Leia
• Rebels captured while Leia sends droids off of ship
• Leia meets Darth Vader
• Darth Vader sends troupes after escape pod
• Droids wonder for like twenty minutes and are caught by Jawas
  
• Troupes follow their trails
  
• Owen and Luke purchase droids
• Luke finds transmission
  
• Luke talks about Obi-Wan and Anakin with Owen and about staying on Tatooine too much, followed by the sunset watch
• Luke goes looking for R2D2
• Obi-Wan Saves Luke from Raiders
• Obi-Wan tells Luke about the Jed and finds out about the mission
• Round table of the Empire
• Luke finds broken down Jawa cruiser and death of Owen and Beru

So far that's about 40 minutes into the film. I say we change that to:

STAR WARS

Opening from AOTC where Senator Amidala is attacked

Opening scrawl

Tantive IV take over, Leia and R2 walk away from each other as the droids leave through the escape pod and Leia is captured. We can assume the other rebels are dead.

The Droids are shortly captured by Jawas and pursued by Troopers.

Droids are sold, after R2 reveals his message about Obi-Wan, Luke talks to Owen about Obi-Wan and Anakin as we see The council calling in Anakin and Obi-Wan to Protect Padme. 

Anakin and Obi-Wan save Padme and Obi-Wan jumps onto the droid.

You forgot to shamelessly steal the prologue and put it at the beginning!

I'm only 10% joking.

I don't mean to steal it man, I simply want to continue their work respectively.

I think you misunderstood my attempt at humor. I'm certainly not accusing you of stealing their ideas. I'm saying you should use the prologue (or re-create it). The prologue is awesome, and it would be a shame to not use it in some way.

If you take this over, I know it will have your own "stamp" on it. But I don't think it will be seen as stealing if you decide to use any clips that ID and TJ have already made. After all, they've offered the stuff up for anyone who wants to use it.

Good luck!

I know I'm hoping that if anyone completes the project that it will be a 100% rip-off of ID and TJ's vision, which was one of the best we've seen here. ;)

Here's a complete overview of what I would like to do:

Prologue

STAR WARS

Opening from AOTC where Senator Amidala is attacked

Opening crawl

Tantive IV take over, Leia and R2 walk away from each other as the droids leave through the escape pod and Leia is captured. We can assume the other rebels are dead.

The Droids are shortly captured by Jawas and pursued by Troopers.

Droids are sold, after R2 reveals his message about Obi-Wan, Luke talks to Owen about Obi-Wan and Anakin as we see the council calling in Anakin and Obi-Wan to Protect Padme. 

Anakin and Obi-Wan save Padme and Obi-Wan jumps onto the droid.

Luke finds out R2 is missing and goes looking for him. Luke looking through binoculars turns into Zam looking through hers. The AOTC chase pursues.

The chase ends as Luke finds R2 and the Raiders. As Luke is knocked out, we cut to Padme addressing the senate.

Luke goes with Obi-Wan, shows R2's message and as he explains the old republic we get flash backs of AOTC. (Example; Anakin and Obi-Wan on Genosis ending with the Senate deciding on the Clone Army.

Round table scene mentioning the end of the Old Republic.

Anakin has a dream about his mother and says he needs to return. Short silent scenes of Anakin finding out what happened to his mother then cut to Luke and Obi-Wan finding out the troupes have tracked the droids to the Jawas. Luke races to the speeder as Anakin frees his mother. CONTINUE WITH ALREADY EDITED SCENE

Now we get to the Mos Eisley introduction and how Obi-Wan mentions that there are Pilots in there. Obi-Wan and Anakin enter the club to find the hiding hitman, cut back to Luke’s argument as we see someone approaching and then a lightsaber ignites to defend Luke and capture the hitman. The hitman is taken outside with the “who hired you” bit before she’s killed.

Back to present, Obi-Wan brings Luke to Han for negotiations. Imperial troops enter. Then we see Vader about to interrogate Leia. Han and Greedo scene, Council gives Anakin and Obi-Wan their mission.

Vader and Tarkin decide for Alderaan as the next target. Han talks with Jabba. Palpatine and Anakin speak. Obi-Wan and Luke come to falcon. Obi-Wan says goodbye to Anakin at station. Train takes off, then Han and the others take off. Falcon is being persued then they jump to light speed.

Death Star Scene, Leia is brought to see Alderaan blow up. Inside Millenium falcon, Obi-Wan falls to ground, Luke continues practicing. Train arrives and the edited love scene is inserted here. Tarkin and Vader find out Leia lied as the Falcon enters the system. The Falcon is lured into the Death Star. Vader says he hasn’t sensed that feeling in a long time.

We find out Obi-Wan is captured and some senators decide Palpatine should receive emergency power for the Clone Army to attack. Obi-Wan and Tyranes talk. The rebels get out and take over a bunker. They find out where the tractor beam is and Obi-Wan leaves. The Senate votes on the clone army. Han and Luke find where Leia is and they set out to find her. Ship lands and Anakin and Padme are captured. Luke Han and Chewie secure the area as Luke finds Leia’s cell. “I’m here to rescue you, I’m here with Ben Kenobi” turns to Anakin and Padme in the arena with Obi-Wan “Good Job” At “let the executions begin”…

Cut back to Vader saying Obi-Wan is back. As the rebels begin their battle, the execution begins simultaneously and they’re all doing their fighting. Anakin, Padme and Obiwan are cornered by droids while the waste is being crushed, all of a sudden Threepio turns off the garbage and a Saber comes on as the Jedi have entered the arena.

All the Jedi fighting from AOTC up until the Han runs into an army of troops is going back and forth. Now the battle scenes continue up until the lightsaber battle. Flashes are made back to Obi-Wan and Anakin Vs Dooku.

Once in the ship, we cut back to ANH as they try to leave death star with Yoda’s battle from AOTC interlacing. As they land on Yavin, Dooku lands on Coruscant with the plans of the Death Star as we see the plans in ANH on Yavinn. Then final attack on the Death Star will be focused solely on the scene alone. And to finish we get the whole “Begun the clone war has” with clone troopers assembling scene.

Finally the wedding and ceremony.

Sorry for the double post.

Yeah this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eCg0rGfH-w

I see you want to use an "edited love scene"... as the REBORN love scene seems to be lost, will you be making a new one, and how are you planning to do it?

I posted the love scene a few days ago.  A full resolution version sits on my hard drive.