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Star Wars Prologue - Epic Prequel Edit (Released) — Page 2

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I may have to kidnap you.

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Maybe a Jar-Jar less TPM could be a side-project for you, seeing as how your'e so good at rotoscoping... *begs & pleads*

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Originally posted by: bkev
Maybe a Jar-Jar less TPM could be a side-project for you, seeing as how your'e so good at rotoscoping... *begs & pleads*


That is a great idea.

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That would save you the trouble of having to answer 1500 PM's from me, about how to Rotoscope Jar-Jar (mostly) out of TPM.

FE<3OT

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I have two thoughts about this.

1. I just get a feeling from the force that this is a project that will never be completed.

2. No matter how much hard work anyone puts into re-editing, re-mixing, re-grooming or re-rotoscoping Episode 1, it's STILL EPISODE 1!!!

Nothing is going to change THAT.

Short of a remake.
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short of you shutting your complaint hole maybe.

this 'Prologue isn't the PT but better, It's a telling of the story in a fresh way.

I wont cry if it can't be completed, I've been inspired by what I've seen already.
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Yeah and painting Jar-Jar out is one of the most ambitious things happening here I guess.
Even if the edit won't be completed, Anti-Matter could make the footage without Jar-Jar avaible on this board and it would be a great contribution to this community because it opens up more possibilities!

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"No matter how much hard work anyone puts into re-editing, re-mixing, re-grooming or re-rotoscoping Episode 1, it's STILL EPISODE 1!!!"

You might be confused. This project is NOT a re-edit of EP1.

Johnny Ringo gets it


For the frantic and nervous...

Since yesterday, I am officially in "pause" mode while I await some HD footage; but we're only talking a few days if the SEEDERS WILL SEED.

I have roughly 36 mins of solid footage produced; and much of this appeared in the early screener for Part 1. Since then I have revised some of the transitions and the overlay text that appears during the first time arc change--based on early comments and suggestions.

I am now well into Part 2. Please note that a 'part' change does not imply that I have finished one of the episodes; it signifies that I have started editing footage from a different DVD. For example, I first worked with the EP3 DVD to create the opening 22 mins of the new movie. Now I am working with the EP1 DVD, but I will later return to the EP3 DVD when the time arcs are completed.

I will prepare screeners of select footage when I am satisfied that there will be little or no further changes to the edits. The next clip will include the rotoscoping.

As I indicated before, this phase of the project is slower because Jarjar is tagging along with the principal characters. The project will slow down even more when I begin developing the Tatooine sequences, because then I will be dealing with Jarjar AND Anakinda-gets-on-my-nerves-Skywalker.
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Did Anakin make C3P0 in your version? If not, will you be removing/rotoscoping 3P0 out of the aotc homestead scenes? It always bothered me how Owen and Beru didn't recognize the talkative droid in epIV if they owned him before...
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I watched your 25 min upload

Im loving the stills you have withot jar jar. As for the preview I like the way it started. And I can feel the direction you are going with us having to find out HOW AND WHY we got to this point thru flashblback.

I didnt like the very sudden cuts though, Yoda talking about entering the temple and then 5 seconds later he is there fighting. Same with when he tells obi wan he isnt strong enough to take on sideous and straight after he is in front of sideous. Both these events need the illusion of the passage of time, in other words some other stuff being put inbetween.

Also you could lose the "younglins" line (i hate that word) and cut straight to obi wan just looking bewildered by seeing young dead people, yoda explains that they are padawans.

Im looking forward to seeing the rest. Have you considered finding some other way of showing its a flashback rather than the 13 years ago type font ? Hard i know...

Hope you dont take any of this as critiscsim cause i enjoyed it.
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"Both these events need the illusion of the passage of time"

I agree, which is precisely why the fades are there. In each case, I feel the type and length of the fade is adequate. Granted, it is possible that I have watched this footage too often and that I am missing the novelty of the edit--or maybe you were watching with some biases that impacted your initial perceptions. We'll see what happens when more people watch.

I am reasonable. If dozens of people have the same impression or interpretation that something isn't working, then I will re-visit the material and try to (a) appreciate the problem myself, and (b) devise a creative solution.

Regarding each instance...

In the first case, Yoda (and company) have already entered local airspace by the time the scene ends (even in the original footage), and so a blend fade is used to get from the ship to the surface. We need only account for the landing. It is not specified where the temple is located, but it seems that the congress hall and temple are situated in the same part of the city.

In the second case, a fade to black is used because we do need to account for a longer passage of time. I am fairly confident that THIS particular transition works, partly because the second sequence is itself delayed (even after the fade is completed). Each time I watch this sequence, I have the sense of a chapter change--and that is exactly what I was going for.

Enjoy the rest of the material as it comes out.
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"It always bothered me how Owen and Beru didn't recognize the talkative droid in epIV if they owned him before..."

I think this qualifies as a stretch on your part. C3PO was in an entirely different state in EP2 (internally and externally). More importantly, in EP4 he is not only operating with a revised memory, but he does NOT reveal himself as "C3P0" to Uncle Owen. Owen has no particular reason to identify this particular protocol droid--especially after so many years.

In short, there is no contradiction or plot goof--unless you really work hard to make it so in your mind.

That said, I'm not yet certain if those scenes will even be used and/or needed in The Prologue. But please do alert me of any other inconsistencies that exist in--or between--the prequels, because this phase of production requires me to think at the 'story board' level. It is not until later that I will begin to micro-analyze the details in all of the footage that is needed to support the story.
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Removing a lot of Jar Jar is awesome! I'm downloading the screener now; can't wait to check it out.
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The Prologue now has an official teaser trailer, available from Rapidshare.com and as a torrent. All external links and key information associated with this project will be referenced at the top of the thread (post #1), for the benefit of current and future visitors.

The trailer is a bit long for early production work, but it IS intended and released as the official teaser trailer, meaning that it may contain sequences that will not appear in the final work. I included some of the early JarJar removal scenes for you. The scenes will appear again (more completely) in the next screener clip.

I hope you enjoy it; it was great fun on my end.

P.S.
If you download the torrent, kindly seed the file for 24 hours or until you give back 1:1. Please be considerate.
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i must confess that i've only seen bits and pieces of previous fan edits
ady's ANH:R seems to have inspired many to really push beyond what seemed reasonably possible

anti-matter: that jarjar removal is stunning!
i notice you said you were reducing him to an incidental character
i will be interested to see where and how you do use him
although given that you're making a 3in1 movie do we need any gunguns at all?

keep up the good work
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The teaser looked really good. It is a cool peek into what is to come.

Only complaint: the audio cut out about 2/3rd of the way through.
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Only complaint: the audio cut out about 2/3rd of the way through.


There is an intentionally abrupt audio change in that general position (classic SW music > prequel music); I'm wondering if that is what you are hearing. Try listening with headphones just to be sure.

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Oh, yup. My bad. I was listening at work and couldn't crank it up.

*back to work*
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i notice you said you were reducing him to an incidental character
i will be interested to see where and how you do use him

Here is one example; this shot does appear in the Prologue:

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2221/jarjarappearancetn0.jpg

So, he may appear in sequences that he does not immediately impact. I do not mind seeing JarJar as a background object, but I am committed to removing his dialogue and interaction with principal characters.

do we need any gunguns at all?

It seems, no; largely because I can get to the Naboo palace quite fine without traveling to the "planet core," and I dislike much of the final battle in EP1.
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Okay I watched the early screening you had posted and I have some feedback. These are of course just my opinions, please take them or leave them.

I like the overall concept of what you have going here, its interesting.

The wipes need to be less severe. The hard edges are VERY jarring. I would use more Lucasian wipes.
I also didnt like the music drowning out the Sound FX of Obi-Wan's Jedi starfighter and the music only portion of Yoda and Sidious' fight is blasphemy in my book. I would never cut out lightsaber duel sound effects.

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Yea, the wipes were all feathered to Lucas specs a few weeks ago (I think this update is mentioned on page 2 or the end of page 1). That early screener is quickly becoming out-dated.

"the music only portion of Yoda and Sidious' fight is blasphemy in my book"

Odd, because it is one of my favorite moments thus far in this edit.
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Hey Anti-Matter, nice to see people have been inspired by Adywan's edit, I'm liking what I have seen so far, it is a really interesting concept.

In my opinion EpI had a lot of good material but unfortunately it was shadowed by the crappy one, the biggest of all being Mr. Binks, nice to see you have been able to remove him. Are you plannng on keeping the whole midichlorian thing? What about the prophecy of the chosen one?

I like the idea of making all 3 films into one nice prologue. I will look forward to this one. Have you uploaded what you have so far to a.b.starwars or just torrent sites?
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