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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan — Page 4

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pittrek said:

If I had any "hardware" for transfering 35mm film I would buy it immediately :-(

Buy it, send it to team negative1 for scanning, and then sell it again.

I would do that right away if I had enough money.

And emanswfan: Your color correction of Ep 2 is much needed. The blu-ray looks horrible.

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dvdmike said:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/35mm-Print-STAR-WARS-THE-PHANTOM-MENACE-LIAM-NEESON-/181122903796?pt=US_Film&hash=item2a2bc42ef4

 

I will just leave this here

That's exactly how I remember it looking when I saw it back in 1999. I can't believe how more Star Wars looking it was then than it is now in blu-ray. I love the grain and the warmer colours. Sigh, and to think, the sterile looking blu-ray is going to be the version people will remember from now on.

 

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rockin said:

Sigh, and to think, the sterile looking blu-ray is going to be the version people will remember from now on.

Not once somebody will make a blu-ray from a print like that. I think it's just a matter of time.

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rockin said:

dvdmike said:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/35mm-Print-STAR-WARS-THE-PHANTOM-MENACE-LIAM-NEESON-/181122903796?pt=US_Film&hash=item2a2bc42ef4

 

I will just leave this here

That's exactly how I remember it looking when I saw it back in 1999. I can't believe how more Star Wars looking it was then than it is now in blu-ray. I love the grain and the warmer colours. Sigh, and to think, the sterile looking blu-ray is going to be the version people will remember from now on.

 

Not much time left on the auction. Somebody should buy it before it's too late. 

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The reds on the lava look a lot better to me, and there's more detail in the highlights. Unfortunately, the entire image is darkened and contrasted too much, resulting in a loss of detail in the shadows, at least on my screen. It's a step up, in any case. I like the green shifted colors in particular.

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bttfbrasilfan said:

I have made some little tests using this new plug-in for Adobe Premiere called FilmConvert. The results are here:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/19700 

Faces:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/19704
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/19705

Lava:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/19706
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/19707 

I actually quite like those especially in how well done the grain is.  It's much closer to what I'm trying to acheive.

The color correction is more filmic and that is one other thing that isn't shown here in this thread yet.  The color correction stills are first passes, which will go through stock emulation work.  I'll have to check it out.

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NeverarGreat said:

theevildriller said:

Not much time left on the auction. Somebody should buy it before it's too late. 

Is that...leeegal?

I will make it legal! ;) Hmm, on second thought, perhaps you are right.

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emanswfan said:

I actually quite like those especially in how well done the grain is.  It's much closer to what I'm trying to acheive.

It's subtle, I think it looks great!

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emanswfan said:

Speeder Chase on Coruscant:

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Coruscant Meeting:

I like the more subtle recoloring better. I think the top image is too drastic an overall shift in color. The bottom one looks the same at first but only if you look at some of the flesh tones, and then the colors in the background are much more naturally saturated.

But I'd rather not see a drastic retinting of an entire frame like in a basic color editing software.

The grain added in the Naboo palace is just amazing. It looks so much more lifelike and yet the overall color tint isn't really changed much.

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rockin said:

dvdmike said:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/35mm-Print-STAR-WARS-THE-PHANTOM-MENACE-LIAM-NEESON-/181122903796?pt=US_Film&hash=item2a2bc42ef4

 

I will just leave this here

That's exactly how I remember it looking when I saw it back in 1999. I can't believe how more Star Wars looking it was then than it is now in blu-ray. I love the grain and the warmer colours. Sigh, and to think, the sterile looking blu-ray is going to be the version people will remember from now on.

 

 

I watched TPM in 1999 in an old Eastern European communist era cinema that probably had 70-80's technology. And it looked fantastic, one of the best movies I've seen on the big screen even today.

No idea how LucasFilm managed to borch the BluRay so bad...

I'd love to see TPM from a 35mm reel transfer.

 

emanswfan, any trailer yet ? ;)

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Ya know, I've offered my TPM film trailer up numerous times for someone to scan and absolutely no-one showed the slightest interest in doing it so it's going back in storage until I can maybe get it done myself.  

The prequels are fine as a stand alone trilogy of their own but my guess is only 35mm scans are going to do them the justice they deserve.

:)

 

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Jetrell Fo said:

Ya know, I've offered my TPM film trailer up numerous times for someone to scan and absolutely no-one showed the slightest interest in doing it so it's going back in storage until I can maybe get it done myself...

I think only a handful of people on the board have the equipment to do something like that.  I have an ep 3 trailer that I've thought about scanning frame by frame on my flatbed to see what kind of quality I can achieve (it does 4800dpi resolution) but it would be a huge and long project, I just haven't been motivated to take it on.

 

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Brooks said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Ya know, I've offered my TPM film trailer up numerous times for someone to scan and absolutely no-one showed the slightest interest in doing it so it's going back in storage until I can maybe get it done myself...

I think only a handful of people on the board have the equipment to do something like that.  I have an ep 3 trailer that I've thought about scanning frame by frame on my flatbed to see what kind of quality I can achieve (it does 4800dpi resolution) but it would be a huge and long project, I just haven't been motivated to take it on.

 

We have good people working on big projects at the moment.  I'm totally cool with that.  It's just hard when you offer stuff up that could help and it just goes un-noticed due to the bigger projects going on.  I'm still sad my cinema DTS audio project effort has all but stalled half-way through.  I've gotten support from a small group and that is far better than none but I'd really like to get the audio put together completely for everyone to use and I'm not able to do that due to my limited knowledge of multichannel audio editing & synching to video.

I'm glad people are obviously making use of what's been provided by other members for the bigger projects, maybe when those projects are finished I can get some tutorial advice so I can go on alone.  The main thing is, the small groups do help the larger cause and it's good for all of us.

:) 

P.S.

Sorry for the rant and sorry to emanswfan.  I hope everyone understands it's not personal towards anyone, just venting, thanks for letting me blow some steam.

 

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Back with a new screenshot.  The colours I haven't touched too much yet, I think I made the image too warm in parts, but I think I may have gotten further to nailing down a filmic texture.  I'm trying out another method of applying grain and I still have to work on the contrast, the contrast might still be too much in the shadows.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/24851

I'll finish up some other previews over the next couple of days.  I have some pics that look like the film was truly shot 35mm.  I even have gotten the jedi council to look identical to the TPM look, aside from its odd tints.

I'm also looking foward to the new version of Adobe Speedgrade coming out within the next month; it looks like it has some features that could add some help beyond my current AE/Speedgrade/Magic Bullet workflow.

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It looks good, however I think I can see something that looks like chroma noise where the grain has been added. That might be the wrong word for it actually, but I can see where you've added grain it is having the side-effect of causing some tiny coloured dots to appear in places.

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rockin said:

It looks good, however I think I can see something that looks like chroma noise where the grain has been added. That might be the wrong word for it actually, but I can see where you've added grain it is having the side-effect of causing some tiny coloured dots to appear in places.

Actually there's chroma noise in the original shot, though the grain I've been adding is multicoloured grain, I could add grayscale grain instead if preferred.

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emanswfan said:

Back with a new screenshot.  The colours I haven't touched too much yet, I think I made the image too warm in parts, but I think I may have gotten further to nailing down a filmic texture.  I'm trying out another method of applying grain and I still have to work on the contrast, the contrast might still be too much in the shadows.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/24851

I'll finish up some other previews over the next couple of days.  I have some pics that look like the film was truly shot 35mm.  I even have gotten the jedi council to look identical to the TPM look, aside from its odd tints.


This is looking great! It's almost exactly like TPM. More comparisons please.

Also, I recommend you to try this plug-in:
http://www.filmconvert.com/ 

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bttfbrasilfan said:


This is looking great! It's almost exactly like TPM. More comparisons please.

Also, I recommend you to try this plug-in:
http://www.filmconvert.com/ 

Thanks, and I'll be sure to be posting plenty more comparisons soon, I'll porbably put up 10 or 20 ar once in a day or so.  And if I have some more time this next week, maybe some for ROTS.

I did look into that plugin.  I remember looking into it a long time ago, but I saw it was mac only and I currently run a pc.  (EDIT:Although I just found out I'm apparently getting a new Macbook Pro within the next 2 months.) However, I did look into the grain and grading techniques the software uses (built-in Log-Linear conversion, prebuilt LUT's for Kodak and Fuji films, and high quality grain emulation) and have taken them in the new comparison(s) along with my other control.

On another note, I'm slowly figuring out also how to tweak some lighting (not in the the most recent comparison) to make elements seem more OT-like and 80's like.