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Well, thanks to hairy_hen and The Starkiller's Guide to the Star Wars Mono Sound Mix, I was able to cobble together a list of at least some of the differences between the different tracks for each film.  For the mono track, I went ahead and listed EVERY difference I came across, but I don't know if this level of detail is wanted/needed.

Everyone, please feel free to add/edit/correct anything as needed.

STAR WARS

1977 70mm Six-Track Reconstruction (Dolby Digital 5.1)

-       1993 audio mix (sourced from 1977 stereo and six-track mix)

-       Upmixed to five channels

-       LFE bass from 1993 mix and 2004 Special Edition

1977 Theatrical 2.0 Surround

 

 1977 Theatrical Mono

Notable features 

-       Different alarm in background aboard the Tantive IV Blockade Runner

-       Different voice for Aunt Beru

-       R2-D2 beeps upon the discovery of the slaughtered Jawas (also featured in the 2004 mix)

-       Sounds made by snake-like cantina patron (opposite Wolfman patron) are extended (also featured in the 2004 mix)

-       Chewbacca growls as stormtroopers pass him and Han in the cantina (also featured in the 2004 mix)

-       Different voice/lines used by stormtrooper while searching for C-3PO and R2-D2 in Mos Eisley

-       Different sound effects for 3D chess game

-       Chewbacca makes an extra growl while playing 3D chess (also featured in the 2004 mix)

-       3D chess monsters make different noises

-       Deceleration sound heard when Millennium Falcon exits hyperspace near the Death Star

-       Radio frequency sound effect heard after Han says, “Chewie, jam its transmissions”

-       Different sound effect of Millennium Falcon being caught in the Death Star’s tractor beam

-       Contains C-3PO’s explanation of the tractor beam

-       Different voice/lines when Governor Tarkin is informed of the detention block security alert

-       Different foley and ADR during trash compactor sequence

-       Different take of C-3PO saying, “What? Use the comlink? Oh my, I forgot, I turned it off”

-       Different cho effect in Death Star chasm

-       Contains the line “Close the blast doors”

-       Additional gun turret sound effects heard while Luke prepares for TIE fighter battle aboard the Millennium Falcon

-       Different take of Luke saying, “So, you got your reward and you’re just leaving then?”

-       Porkins does not scream

-       Different voice for Death Star countdown

-       Luke says “Blast it, Biggs,” not “Blast it, Wedge”

-       Battle of Yavin radio chatter is undistorted

1985 Home Video 2.0 Surround Remix

1993 Home Video 2.0 Surround Remix

Star Wars Isolated Stereo Score

 

THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK

 

Alternate Dolby Digital 5.1 "version 1" Remix

-       1993 audio mix

-       LFE bass from 2004 Special Edition

Alternate Dolby Digital 5.1 "version 2" Remix

-       1993 audio mix

-       LFE bass from 2004 Special Edition

Notable features

-       Snowspeeder crash sound from 1980 mix

-       Boba Fett’s departure from Bespin uses Williams’ unedited score from 1997 mix

 

Alternate Dolby Digital 5.1 "PURIST" Remix

-       1993 audio mix

-       LFE bass from 2004 Special Edition

Notable features

-       Snowspeeder crash sound from 1980 mix

 

1980 Theatrical 2.0 Surround

Notable features

-       Snowspeeder makes a sound when it crashes

 

1993 Home Video 2.0 Surround Remix

Notable features

-       No snowspeeder crash sound

 

Empire Strikes Back Isolated Stereo Score

 

RETURN OF THE JEDI

Alternate Dolby Digital 5.1 "version 1" Remix

-       1993 audio mix

-       LFE bass from 2004 Special Edition

Notable features

 

Alternate Dolby Digital 5.1 "version 2" Remix

-       1993 audio mix

-       LFE bass from 2004 Special Edition

Notable features

-       Obi-Wan’s appearance on Dagobah uses Williams’ previously unused music

-       Vader’s defeat uses music from 1977 35mm stereo mix

Alternate Dolby Digital 5.1 "PURIST" Remix

-       1993 audio mix

-       LFE bass from 2004 Special Edition

Notable features

-       Vader’s defeat uses music from 1977 35mm stereo mix

1983 Theatrical 2.0 Surround

1993 Home Video 2.0 Surround Remix

Return of the Jedi Isolated Stereo Score

 

Quick question: I mentioned in an earlier post that I grew up watching a taped broadcast of Star Wars.  The broadcast in question was taped from First Choice Super Channel (now TMN) in 1982.  Would the sound mix from that broadcast be the 1977 theatrical stereo one?

Most likely the 35mm Dolby Stereo mix.

hairy_hen said:

I've been considering typing up a comprehensive list of all differences between the various audio tracks.  Just have to get around to actually doing it.

This would be more appreciated than you could possibly imagine! I love the idea of having all these audio options, but without knowing all the differences it's hard to decide which one I'd prefer or which one to go to for what options. I'm sure it would be quite a bit of work to list all the differences, but it really would be invaluable. The audio info to each film would also make for a good insert to each DVD package.

DJ, I don't know if you posted this earlier, but which mpeg encoder are you using?

dark_jedi said:

schorman13 said:

JD, I don't know if you posted this earlier, but which mpeg encoder are you using?

Is this directed to me? if not, who be JD?

Yes, sorry, it was a long day.

This may be very thing you wanted to avoid, but:

I've used IFOedit to set the 16:9 flags on the menu after the fact. That way, the playback device stretches it to fill the screen, and all the button overlays and everything stays in place. Of course, the image appears stretched, and the hardware stretching is uneven and artifacty (in my experience).

Guide here: http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=59409

Maybe add black bars in photoshop to each image to fill in the added space to make the correct aspect ratio?

Then at least the menu wouldn't appear all stretched out on screen...I think...

Or add some stylish starwarsy bars, instead of the black bars. The question is, as these are static menus, do you need to scale as video or just as picture?

dark_jedi said:

It is a menu image from a very old set I did with a former member here, I say former because I have not seen or heard from him in a long time, and now that it is re done I want to use the same images that he made up, but just resizing it makes it look terrible, so I am assuming there is some doctoring up that needs to be done.

Are you re-authoring or do you just want to re-jig the existing DVD files?

If you're re-authoring, grabbing the menu image(s) should be doable from the existing DVD. Repurposing that image into something that would be pleasing in 16:9 without stretching it would require some photoshop extensions or trickery or merely cropping top/bottom. The low resolution of the source image would require some legerdemain to avoid the image looking f-ed up, as you say.

I'd be happy to take a stab at it for you.

Or this might do the trick:

http://saulo.alvesnet.net/dvd/Editing%20a%20MENU%20in%20a%20already%20authored%20DVD.pdf