Star Wars OT & 1997 Special Edition - Various Projects Info (Released) — Page 18

Last release was to newsgroups, so I anticipate that will be the case this time as well.

Perhaps someone will be kind enough to repost to a free service like RS or MU with dark_jedi's permission?

ChainsawAsh said:

Woo-hoo!  I'm incredibly excited!

Any word on the possibility of releasing the uncompressed WAVs of the '80, '83, and '85 audio mixes?

I will figure out what I will do with the Theatrical and Remix PCM files after ALL 3 movies are done.

I just caught wind of this on the avs forum and would like to commend dark_jedi for the hard work. I was considering doing this myself after seeing the last Ep. 4 dvd issue containing the "theatrical version". I'd love to see them but feel presumptuous to ask, since this is my first post here.

Welcome to the forums benor, I am still putting together this set, waiting on a few things and then I will author it up, once finished I will post where and how to get them.

Thanks! Meanwhile, I'll play around with the non-anamorphic version and see if I can resample it fairly easily. I guess about 95% of the original movie is there in the "enhanced" version - it would be a matter of splicing in the original scenes where the offending ones are.

benor said:

it would be a matter of splicing in the original scenes where the offending ones are.

This project does not use anything with any "offending" scenes, it is strictly Theatrical, with all the optional audio mixes, and a bonus on the ESB DVD.

dark_jedi said:

Now I have all the Isolated Scores to all 3 films, thanks to ocp's classic editions, I actually tried to sync up ABC's Audiophile ESB but it is just way beyond me.

Hi,

I haven't followed the thread but working on many improvements on the ESB AE tracks and checking some of their film mixes counterparts on Adywan's ESB reconstruction I was playing around running some of my tracks were they started over the film and oh boy !... I know I can layer the whole soundtrack on the film. The film mix has a different editing but I can (and have already) spot them all as I now know every notes of it.

I won't annoy everyone with my computer issues, just know that I have almost nothing installed here so I won't play with many softwares and learn how to convert sound for DVD.

Just know that if anyone is ineterested in having a special kind of "concerto" version of the film with my mixes for the sountrack overlayed I would only need the stereo tracks from the film that contain the music in lossless. I would just re-edit it with Audacity and send it back. (And two of a stroke, it would make this complex isolated score accurately built once for all). Only a couple of tracks would need to be lifted from the session mixes rather than the AE but it's not a problem.

... Just an idea. Perhaps a couple of serious tries would be reasonable before rushing into it.

So what is it you need? if I am following you correctly you would need the PCM track for the entire film? if so which PCM would you like, the '80 Theatrical, '85 Stereo remix or the '93 Stereo mix? they are 1.33 GB's in size, just so you know.

PM with details and I would love to do this.

dark_jedi said:

So what is it you need? if I am following you correctly you would need the PCM track for the entire film?

I guess so. Is it one 2 hours track ? I thought it was divided by chapters.

The only experience I have with DVD sound is a downmix I've done once of a 6 track channel as you know. I wouldn't need more than one of those pair of tracks that has the music (and sfxs if I understood), and it would make it easier if I have to use the waveform for some help.

if so which PCM would you like, the '80 Theatrical, '85 Stereo remix or the '93 Stereo mix? they are 1.33 GB's in size, just so you know.

The best one (or the one for the best version). Keep in mind that I'm untutored about these things. Try to imagine someone that has a far memory of Star Wars and you almost get it... Almost.

Perhaps someone can suggest the one to be used for this.

PM with details and I would love to do this.

All my technical / historical knowlegde is contained in this post !...

Darth Mallwalker said:

 

I'll suggest using the same one dark_jedi used.
After all Belbucus is a pro

 

Which one am I using? I have sync'd the Theatrical and the remix to the GOUT audio for ESB(I use GOUT audio for all), so please tell me what I am doing.

satanika said:

A B C said:

Perhaps someone can suggest the one to be used for this.

 

I guess any of the soundtracks/mixes would do, but you could also use the surrounds from the upmix(es) as the speech is much attenuated in them.

Mmmhh... Keep in mind that the music I would overlay would attenuate these again. The tries I made on Adywan's version were great: the music can be very "loud" in comparison of the film mix and you still can hear everything.

Wait, wait - what are we talking about here, making an isolated score (MUSIC ONLY) track, or using ABC's audiophile soundtrack to make the music more prominent in the mix?

The use of the words "attenuate" and "overlay" are what's confusing me, I think.

If you're talking about an isolated score, then hell yeah, go for it, that'd be awesome!

If you're talking about making the music more prominent in the mix ... why?

ChainsawAsh said:

If you're talking about making the music more prominent in the mix ... why?

That's what we were talking about, but I think you're right.

Added to this point I just made a more serious try and it appears (on "Attack Position") the pitch of the 1993 transfer from the sessions tapes have an infinitesimal pitch alteration I could spot with precision. This gives an awful kind of delay, and a lot of work to get that back on the many edited bits.

If you're talking about an isolated score, then hell yeah, go for it, that'd be awesome!

That's what we are talking about now. I can't see any problem to do that excepted a 3 or 4sec missing bit in "Ice Planet" - the begining of the famous SE insert - I may replace with harp.

... Choose you're version, guys ! ;)

PS: Do we post a new topic to advert this ?

I kind of liked the idea of having a nice music score only track sync'd to a black & white version of ESB myself, encode a very high bit rate ac3 or a PCM or both.

I think there'd be a lot of interest in you creating an isolated score track, ABC.  Your restorations of the soundtracks are unparalleled.

I'd say, if you're interested in creating isolated score tracks from your restored versions, start a new thread for it.  I'm sure many (including myself) would be quite interested!

And the eventual goal would be a single, 2-hour-plus track (not several individual tracks), synchronized to the GOUT, that can be muxed to the video by whoever wishes to use it.  Just be aware that there will (obviously) be several minutes of silence in the track, wherever there isn't any music playing in the film.

I'd sync to the 1980 theatrical stereo for purist's sake, but I don't see how there would be any issues whatsoever with using the 1985 or 1993 stereo remixes.

It might also be interesting to have two separate isolated scores - one with the music exactly as it is in the film, one with any and all unused tracks where they would have been in the movie (an "as originally intended by John Williams" isolated score, as it were).

The more and more audio sync'ing I am doing in Vegas has really opened my eyes, whoever did the '93 tracks they were not 100% accurate, there are some very minute discrepancies in there, so these will never be 100% perfect for everyone, but I cannot find anything at all glaring on my sync jobs, as a matter of fact, I am redoing them now because I think I can even do even better, also anyone who has the '93 PCM tracks might want to check their copy of ESB, there is an audio glitch(high pitch screetch) shortly after the part where Han says to turn the Falcon around on the Star Destroyer to make an "attack" run and the guy says shields up, hairy_hen spotted it and asked if I could send him a patch and sure as shit, it was on my copies as well, so I am going over the '93 PCM tracks.

so ChainsawAsh, just a soon as I get ALL PCM tracks sync'd perfectly(because even Belbucus' needed delay, these new versions will not) I will contact you if you are still interested in all the PCM tracks.

PCM tracks I will have,
Star Wars - '77 Mono, '77 Theatrical, '85 Stereo remix, '93 Stereo mix.
Empire - '80 Theatrical Stereo, '85 Stereo remix, '93 Stereo mix.
Jedi - '83 Theatrical Stereo, '85 Stereo remix, '93 Stereo mix.

dark_jedi said:

I kind of liked the idea of having a nice music score only track sync'd to a black & white version of ESB myself, encode a very high bit rate ac3 or a PCM or both.

Ah, good to hear you about this black & white version idea !

Now I must say that on such a version I'd be more for the complete score. I think it would be the best way to enjoy this black & white experience.

For what is about to make a 2nd version with the exact film score then, why not. That begins to make a bunch of work though...

I'll follow the debate and clear my mind about this before posting a new topic ;)