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Just imagine the possibilities:

 

SW OT & 97SE by Team Blu and Ady's ESB:Revisisted out by Christmas... I think I will be a on a Star Wars high if this happens, or at least experiencing a nerdgasm of some extreme form... *giggity*

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Could I ask if there's any plan (or volunteers!) to add the new Team Blu versions to myspleen in the future..? They sound awesome, but I missed the window for blanks by quite a margin!

Maybe...but not today.

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jzilli said:

This is what's known as a "slippery slope".  If Team Blu and Harmy are restoring the original versions of the film and they decide to change anything, then that opens the door for other changes or fixes.

I understand what you're saying and I see where you're coming from, but for the sake of argument I could just as easily say that what you're saying is known as a "false dichotomy"; in other words, claiming that we either have to allow no change from what was theatrically shown in 1977 OR ELSE any change all the way up to the current blu-ray release would have to be allowed on the table of discussion. This is also a relativist point of view that treats the words "Episode IV A New Hope" as though they are in the same category as every change made since 1997, so if we listen to the guy who wants those words in the crawl then we supposedly also have to listen to the guy who wants Luke to reunite with Biggs before the attack on the Death Star.

Don't get me wrong, I can understand and appreciate this perspective. My intention here is not to be antagonistic. But with all friendly intentions I must say I strongly disagree with this viewpoint. We all essentially want the same thing here: the original movie preserved the way it was before Lucas started noticeably changing it from the movie we grew up with. I can like the New Hope word crawl and still be part of this club, instead of the club that allows infinite fan edits and versions.

Please forgive my tendency to be long winded. You can actually ignore all of the above but please consider this last thing: if anyone who knows how to work on these preservations wouldn't mind making a version with the exact picture and sound quality of Team Blu's or Harmy's except with the New Hope crawl, I would appreciate having that available as an alternative preservation. Obviously it would have to be a convincing approximation of existing versions of the word crawl and not a new version that looks nothing like what's come before; it's not like just anything that says "New Hope" would be acceptable. I'm just throwing this out there as a humble request, not trying to irritate anyone, I'm just hoping someone who knows how to do a good job with my request won't mind indulging me.

I have chosen to put this request on dark_jedi's and Harmy's threads since I essentially just want their versions with this one change, so I figured asking for a whole new fan project in a brand new thread would be overkill. I can't thank you guys enough for what you do, and I appreciate your time.

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deepanddark20: I'm willing to help, as I think there's value in having a nicely-preserved copy of the 1981 crawl. Please start a new thread for this and we can continue the discussion there.

The best quality version of the 1981 crawl is on the 1993 DC LD. In addition to the crawl, we'd have to take the 1981 flyover as well.

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

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Williarob said:

Would a nice 1080p version of the 1981 crawl, from a 35mm print help anyone out at this point?

Download it now.

Password: A New Hope 81

[Thanks to Team Negative 1 for providing this clip.]

Wow, thanks!!!

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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Williarob said:

Would a nice 1080p version of the 1981 crawl, from a 35mm print help anyone out at this point?

[Thanks to Team Negative 1 for providing this clip.]

You should post that in the team negative1 thread.

We won't make any alternate versions, we'll simply make the best we can of the GOUT as it is. For our project this isn't useful while it's nice to see some high res scans as always.

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deepanddark20 said:

jzilli said:

This is what's known as a "slippery slope".  If Team Blu and Harmy are restoring the original versions of the film and they decide to change anything, then that opens the door for other changes or fixes.

I have chosen to put this request on dark_jedi's and Harmy's threads since I essentially just want their versions with this one change, so I figured asking for a whole new fan project in a brand new thread would be overkill. I can't thank you guys enough for what you do, and I appreciate your time.

I  can understand the viewpoint: I remember going into my seventh-grade maths class, where the teacher was inexplicably showing the videotape on the day before a holiday, and feeling superior enough to know that it was good that the "Episode IV" was present since that was how it was *supposed* to be. (Sadly there was no one to be superior TO. If only someone had questioned the change....)

Little did we know of the horrors to follow in 1997.

But as something that just reflects Lucas' own plans with the imminent release of Empire, I can appreciate this idea.

If the project were not so far along -- almost finished! -- I'd inquire about the feasibility of a branching for the crawl only. (Not suggest, merely inquire, but now it's obviously too late even for that.)

But, for all its faults, we can at least look forward to the episode number in the preservation of the original (if I may use that word) SEs.

“Before the Dark Times. Before the Prequels.”

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Williarob said:

Would a nice 1080p version of the 1981 crawl, from a 35mm print help anyone out at this point?

Download it now.

Password: A New Hope 81

[Thanks to Team Negative 1 for providing this clip.]

This is so cool ... Thanks :-)

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A new thread will soon be started in the forum focused on creating a version of Star Wars exactly like yours and/or Harmy's, except with "A New Hope" crawl. Before starting the thread I just want to make sure I ask: does Team Blu grant permission for your preservation to be used in this project? It would be a lot easier if we could just attach the New Hope crawl to an existing preservation instead of starting from the ground up.

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deepanddark20 said:

A new thread will soon be started in the forum focused on creating a version of Star Wars exactly like yours and/or Harmy's, except with "A New Hope" crawl. Before starting the thread I just want to make sure I ask: does Team Blu grant permission for your preservation to be used in this project? It would be a lot easier if we could just attach the New Hope crawl to an existing preservation instead of starting from the ground up.

You should ask and see how they feel about it.  If you're doing it for personal use I don't see why you'd need to but if you're going to put it out there as "your project" you may just want to do your own.  To separate the two .... these are just ideas off the top of my head, so you know.

:)

 

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"Ask to see how they feel about it" is what I just did in that post. And of course there's no intention to take credit for the entire movie when all that's actually been changed is the crawl. It would essentially be a spinoff project which they would not need to be involved with, but credit for the movie portion would still be given where it's due.

I'm hoping that we can share and help each other out in this community, especially since these projects aren't done for profit. But I will abide by whatever Team Blu says

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deepanddark20 said:

"Ask to see how they feel about it" is what I just did in that post. And of course there's no intention to take credit for the entire movie when all that's actually been changed is the crawl. It would essentially be a spinoff project which they would not need to be involved with, but credit for the movie portion would still be given where it's due.

I'm hoping that we can share and help each other out in this community, especially since these projects aren't done for profit. But I will abide by whatever Team Blu says

People DO share and help each other out in this community, I was merely making suggestions.  My apology if you felt my intention was in some way devious or harmful.

PM DJ, I'm sure he'd discuss things with you and offer helpful suggestions as well.

:)

 

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I can't wait for that new OT set to be released. Here's hoping for an early Christmas this year ;)

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m_s0 said:

I can't wait for that new OT set to be released. Here's hoping for an early Christmas this year ;)

Well I can tell you now the "Set" will not be done, but Star Wars 77 and A New Hope 97 SE will be.

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It's still great news so thanks for the update! What's the ETA on the rest then?

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I am so looking forward to the 1997 SE preservation!

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Hey guys, I'm new here. DJ, I've been a die hard fan of your theatrical restorations since I first discovered the V3 set on MySpleen a couple of years ago. I just wanted to thank you and everyone else here for the invaluable work you do.

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DavidMerrick said:

I know you guys said you aren't accepting any more Blu Ray donations, but is there a chance you might make a second run for both versions of ANH?

I would like to but I have switched to a different set of blanks that I will be using from here on out after I use up the old ones and there is only an option for a 50 pack spindle only, so it is not worth it anymore for you guys now I am thinking, these are what I will be using for BD25's.

http://www.amazon.com/Verbatim-97339-DataLifePlus-Single-Layer-Recordable/dp/B004477BQQ/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3FNYQ0DFNN1CP&coliid=I3S6UPBFO7JPB7

Is there any chance that a group of us who missed out on donating could pitch in for one of the 50 disc spindles and have it sent to you? Even if only 5 or 6 of us were willing to do it, it would still only end up costing us around $10 each which sounds more than worth it to me!

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It's still great news so thanks for the update! What's the ETA on the rest then?

I'd love to know this too!

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@Hal 9000: The DTS-HD MA tracks are sourced from the theatrical DTS discs. The Dolby digital tracks are from the Laserdiscs.

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You_Too said:

@Hal 9000: The DTS-HD MA tracks are sourced from the theatrical DTS discs. The Dolby digital tracks are from the Laserdiscs.

Wow, these are going to have some truly spectacular audio.

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You_Too said:

@Hal 9000: The DTS-HD MA tracks are sourced from the theatrical DTS discs. The Dolby digital tracks are from the Laserdiscs.

I am glad to hear the cinema discs are being utilized.  Very exciting news for all of us.

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That's interesting, I thought hairy hen had used primarily the Definitive Collection laserdisk with some of the 1997 SE laserdisk for the latest version (version 2.0, I guess) of his Star Wars 70mm theatrical soundtrack reconstruction/restoration. Has he switched to an even better more accurate source for his restoration?

I assume when you say DTS-HD MA 5.1 soundtrack you are referring to the Star Wars 70mm reconstruction, since I think that's the only such soundtrack on the V1 Star Wars Blu-ray. But maybe there's more than one DTS-HD MA 5.1 soundtrack on the V2 Star Wars Blu-ray.

The Star Wars trilogy. There can be only one.