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Star Wars Laser Disc Audio Archive (Released)

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Version 2.0 Now Available on the Spleen!

COMMENTS:

I am providing this Audio Archive for the purposes of saving and sharing the various audio mixes of the Star Wars Trilogy presented on LaserDisc over the years. Since many of the mixes were created to accompany the original, unaltered versions of the Star Wars Films, these mixes have been unavialable on DVD or Blu Ray up to this point.

My intention with all of the completed, synchronized files was to maintain, as much as possible, a bit accurate representation of the soundtracks as presented on LaserDiscs. So each is presented at its original bit depth and sampling rate, (16 bit / 44.1 kHz). While these files will not be suitable for direct use in a DVD or Blu Ray project, they will work perfectly within an mkv container, which is how I envision their use.

Should you prefer to use these mixes for a DVD or Blu Ray, they will require resampling to, at minimum, 16bit / 48 kHz. I recommend Izotope RX4 for resampling, as it currently provides the most transparent/best algorithm. I hope these files will be useful to the entire OT.com community and look forward to sharing it with everyone.

Regards,

-schorman

Laser Discs sets included:

I. Star Wars:

A. 1977 Dolby Stereo

1. Analog Versions

a. US CAV (1130-84)

b. Japan CLV (FY570-35MA)

2. Digital Version

a. Japan CLV (SF098-1103)

b. US Time Compressed CLV (5651-80)

B. 1985 Stereo Home Video Mix

1. Digital Versions

a. Japan Special Collection (SF148-1196)

b. Special Widescreen Edition (Technidisc Version) (1130-85)

C. 1993 Stereo Remix

1. Digital Versions

a. Definitive Collection (1994 Japanese Version) (PILF-175701)

b. US “Faces” (8763-85)

D. 1993 Commentary Track (Mono)

1. Analog Source

a. Definitive Collection (US First/Second Pressing) (0693-84-01)

E. 1997 Special Edition

1. US Version (410298501)

        a. Digital LPCM Stereo

b. 5.1 Dolby Digital  (Separate file for SE Trailer in Dolby 2.0)

2. Japanese Version (PILF-2468)

        a. Digital LPCM Stereo

b. 5.1 Dolby Digital  (SE Documentary is attached)

II. The Empire Strikes Back:

A. 1980 Dolby Stereo

1. Analog Versions

a. US CAV (1425-84)

b. Japan CLV (SF098-0013)

2. Digital Version

a. Japan CLV (SF098-1117)

b. US Time Compressed CLV (5652-80)

B. 1985 Stereo Home Video Mix *(Probably the Theatrical Mix, but I’ve included them for completeness)

1. Digital Versions

a. Japan Special Collection (SF148-1242)

b. Special Widescreen Edition (Technidisc Version) (1425-85)

C. 1993 Stereo Remix

1. Digital Versions

a. Definitive Collection (1994 Japanese Version) (PILF-175702)

b. US “Faces” (8764-85)

D. 1993 Commentary Track (Mono)

1. Analog Source

a. Definitive Collection (US First Pressing) (0693-84-02)

E. 1997 Special Edition

1. US Version (410298502)

        a. Digital LPCM Stereo

b. 5.1 Dolby Digital  (Separate file for SE Trailer in Dolby 2.0)

2. Japanese Version (PILF-2469)

        a. Digital LPCM Stereo

b. 5.1 Dolby Digital  (SE Documentary is attached)

III. Return of the Jedi

A. 1983 Dolby Stereo

1. Analog Version

a. US CLV (1478-80) (1986 First Issue) *(Included only for completeness)

2. Digital Versions

a. Japan CLV (SF098-1100)

b. US CLV (1478-80) (1986 First Issue)

c. US CLV (1478-80) (1992 Reissue)

B. 1985 Stereo Home Video Mix *(Probably the Theatrical Mix, but I’ve included them for completeness)

1. Digital Versions

a. Japan Special Collection (SF148-1343)

b. Special Widescreen Edition (Technidisc Version) (1478-85)

C. 1993 Stereo Remix

1. Digital Versions

a. Definitive Collection (1994 Japanese Version) (PILF-175703)

b. US “Faces” (8765-85)

D. 1993 Commentary Track (Mono)

1. Analog Source

a. Definitive Collection (US First/Second Pressing) (0693-84-03)

E. 1997 Special Edition

1. US Version (410298503)

        a. Digital LPCM Stereo

b. 5.1 Dolby Digital  (Separate file for SE Trailer & SE Featurette in Dolby 2.0)

2. Japanese Version (PILF-2470)

        a. Digital LPCM Stereo

b. 5.1 Dolby Digital  (SE Documentary is attached)

IV. The Phantom Menace

A. 1999 Theatrical Mixes (Japan) (PILF-2830)

1. Digital Stereo

2.  5.1 Dolby Digital

V. Others

A. From Star Wars to Jedi (Digital Dual-Mono Track) (Japan) (PILF-207004)

B. The Making of Star Wars (Digital Dual-Mono Track) (Japan) (PILF-2079)

C. SP FX: The Empire Strikes Back (Digital Dual-Mono Track) (Japan) (PILF-2080)

D. Classic Creatures: Return of the Jedi  (Digital Dual-Mono Track) (Japan) (PILF-2081)

E. Episode II Featurette (From the 2000 Japanese SE Release) (PILF-286001)

1. Digital Stereo

2. Dolby Digital *(5.1 encoded, but only stereo channels have audio)
 

Thanks for checking this out and enjoy!
 

I do have other versions not presented here, so if anyone has a request for another disc / version not uploaded in version 2.0, let me know and I may have the disc.

-schorman
 

–Version 1.0

I am posting this to myspleen as we speak:

This set includes raw rips from a comprehensive set of Star Wars Laser Discs, representing all possible mixes available for the Star Wars films released on this format.

All audio taken from digital sources is confirmed bit accurate (44.1kHz/16bit).  Each disc was ripped three times to ensure accuracy.

Dolby Digital tracks have also been included, where possible.  Using a Sony E9000ES receiver to demodulate the AC-3 RF track,the Dolby Digital tracks were also ripped three times using a Creative Audigy 2 Platinum ZS sound card set to bit accurate recording.  These wav files were then converted to standard ac3 files using Besplit.exe and error-checked using delaycut.exe (logs are included).  Please note that these files are presented untouched.  They are not synced to any video source and no re-encoding has taken place.  These are bit perfect copies of what is on the discs.  Each laser disc side is its own file, however trailers and special features have been excised and presented as separate tracks as they are presented in 2.0 stereo rather than 5.1.

Those tracks taken from analog laser discs have been recorded at 96kHz/32bit(float) from a Pioneer CLD-D704 into an E-MU 1616m digital audio interface.

Additionally, Audio Commentary taken from the 1993 Definitive Collection was recorded at 96/32(float),cleaned up using DeNoise, synced to the GOUT DVDs, resampled, and dithered to 48kHz/24bit mono.

Please note that, with the exception of the commentary tracks, none of these audio tracks have been synced to the GOUT or other SW dvd versions.  This is meant to act as a digital library for these laserdisc sources.

Laser Discs sets included:

I. Star Wars:

A. 1977 Dolby Stereo

1. Analog Versions

a. US CAV (1130-80)

b. Japan CLV (FY570-35MA)

2. Digital Version

a. Japan CLV (SF098-1103)

B. 1985 Stereo Home Video Mix

1. Digital Versions

a. Japan Special Collection (SF148-1196)

b. Special Widescreen Edition (Technidisc Version) (1130-85)

C. 1993 Stereo Remix

1. Digital Versions

a. Definitive Collection (Japanese Version) (PILF-175701)

b. “Faces” (Japanese Collector’s Set) (PILF-207001)

D. 1993 Commentary Track (Mono)

1. Analog Source

a. Definitive Collection (US First Pressing) (0693-84-01)

E. 1997 Special Edition (US Version) (410298501)

1. Digital Stereo

2. 5.1 Dolby Digital  (Separate file for SE Trailer in Dolby 2.0)

F.  1977 Mono Mix (Belbucus’s restored Mono Mix) ***Bonus

II. The Empire Strikes Back:

A. 1980 Dolby Stereo

1. Analog Versions

a. US CAV (1425-84)

b. Japan CLV (SF098-0013)

2. Digital Version

a. Japan CLV (SF098-1117)

B. 1985 Stereo Home Video Mix *(Probably the Theatrical Mix, but I’ve included them for completeness)

1. Digital Versions

a. Japan Special Collection (SF148-1242)

b. Special Widescreen Edition (Technidisc Version) (1425-85)

C. 1993 Stereo Remix

1. Digital Versions

a. Definitive Collection (Japanese Version) (PILF-175702)

b. “Faces” (Japanese Collector’s Set) (PILF-207002)

D. 1993 Commentary Track (Mono)

1. Analog Source

a. Definitive Collection (US First Pressing) (0693-84-02)

E. 1997 Special Edition (US Version) (410298502)

1. Digital Stereo

2. 5.1 Dolby Digital  (Separate file for SE Trailer in Dolby 2.0)

III. Return of the Jedi

A. 1983 Dolby Stereo

1. Analog Version

a. US CLV (1478-80)  *(Included only for completeness)

2. Digital Versions

a. Japan CLV (SF098-1100)

b. US CLV (1478-80)

B. 1985 Stereo Home Video Mix *(Probably the Theatrical Mix, but I’ve included them for completeness)

1. Digital Versions

a. Japan Special Collection (SF148-1343)

b. Special Widescreen Edition (Technidisc Version) (1478-85)

C. 1993 Stereo Remix

1. Digital Versions

a. Definitive Collection (Japanese Version) (PILF-175703)

b. “Faces” (Japanese Collector’s Set) (PILF-207003)

D. 1993 Commentary Track (Mono)

1. Analog Source

a. Definitive Collection (US First Pressing) (0693-84-03)

E. 1997 Special Edition (US Version) (410298503)

1. Digital Stereo

2. 5.1 Dolby Digital  (Separate file for SE Trailer & SE Featurette in Dolby 2.0)

IV. The Phantom Menace

A. 1999 Theatrical Mixes (Japan) (PILF-2830)

1. Digital Stereo

2.  5.1 Dolby Digital

V. Attack of the Clones

A. Dolby 2.0 Mix (Edit from UK R2 DVD & Spanish Track from the US DVD) *Bonus

VI. From Star Wars to Jedi

A. Digital Dual-Mono Track (Japan) (PILF-207004)

I hope you have hard drive space 😃  Enjoy!

-schorman

If I had some gum, I’d chew a hole into the sun…

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You sir, are a f***ing hero!! :) What an amazing body of work, I'm stunned.

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

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Wow.  And wow.  Not to ask for a cherry on top or anything, but did you have any plans to GOUT-sync any of the digital tracks for ESB and ROTJ like you did for SW?

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Yes, I'm still planning on doing that, but it may take me a couple of weeks to get them finalized.

I'm also planning on doing a 3.0 mix with the 1993 Commentary Track.  I was going to use the '93 stereo in the left and right channel and the commentary as the center.  I just figured out how to automatically "Duck" the audio in the L/R channels during commentary using Audacity.  I actually began this project by trying to do the "Ducking" manually in Audition, but this should go much quicker.

I was actually also thinking of taking some of the content from the DC bonus interviews and including that audio as well, since the original commentary is fairly sparse.

As a side note, I think the only thing missing from this list would be the original time-compressed versions of Star Wars and Empire.  I have them, but they just didn't really seem necessary.  I could upload those as well if there's interest.

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Wow, and then some.

"He certainly has courage."  And ambition, too!

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Impressive, most impressive!

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Where were you in '77?

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really really great man! That is some achievement!

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Brilliant, thanks.

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The list of discs alone is incredible but then multiply that by 3, 4 or 5 sides per release and multiply again by the three for the number of times each disc was ripped and you begin to see how mind-bogglingly huge this actually is.

Wow just isn't enough.......

 

Any further work done with GOUT syncing any of the list is the only thing that could top the work done so far.

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Thanks!

For the ROTJ mixes, will you be synching to the NTSC or PAL? I believe PAL is the preferred source for most preservations.

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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Syncing against time-adjusted PAL is weird, FWIW, because the dialogue doesn't appear to be timed exactly the same on NTSC and PAL (no clue why, the sound effects line up perfectly).

When making a track to sync to a PAL-based project, I actually prefer to sync to NTSC first, then insert two frames at the one spot and delete a frame at the later spot, and then patch over the transitions, resulting in something that syncs to PAL-based projects.  YMMV, and good luck.

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Erikstormtrooper said:

I believe PAL is the preferred source for most preservations.

In fact the opposite is the case.

All but one GOUT synced preservation that I know of is NTSC.........

Living in PAL land, I can no longer watch PAL releases of my favourite films as I find the 4% speedup annoying!!!!

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Holy smokes! 59.68 gigs. going to take a while to download. Great preservation and at the best possible quality. Thanks schorman13 for putting this together.

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Both Harmy and DJ/U2 use PAL video for ROTJ, slowed down to the appropriate rate.  This causes NTSC audio to be annoyingly ever-so-slightly out of sync for most of the film.

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Nicely done schorman13.....it will be nice to add the cinema DTS stuff to this list once they are ready......

:)

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Awesome archive!  I'm sure it will come in VERY handy!

(Disregard my previous comments about missing files.  My uTorrent was just acting weird :/ )

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I've already been working on resyncing most of these mixes, and I'm probably about 70% done in total.  I was basically planning to do a theatrical mix, a 1985 mix, a 1993 mix, and an SE Mix for each film, plus the commentary track.  Most of these are completed, but need some small tweaks to make them presentable.  I haven't tried anything with the 5.1 mixes, but I'm going to try to create them by trimming and concatenating the ac3 files themselves rather than by re-encoding.  This will take time and experimentation.  

Since I work mainly in Adobe Audition, I was thinking of creating project files for each mix that could use the wav files present in this torrent.  That way, if you had this torrent, you could download a small project file, and output your own GOUT-synced track(s), without having to download a 2GB file.  This would also allow others people to easily make adjustments they might feel are necessary.  That's just a thought though, and some of the synced files I've already finished would have to be redone as project files.

CatBus, I think that sync issue in Jedi is due to the fact that there are two frames missing from Jedi right before the Rebel debriefing scene on the NTSC version.  It's not due to the source of the video being PAL.  I do plan on syncing the Jedi tracks to the complete version, with all possible missing frames restored (NTSC is missing two frames from PAL, and PAL is missing a single frame from NTSC).

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schorman13 said:



CatBus, I think that sync issue in Jedi is due to the fact that there are two frames missing from Jedi right before the Rebel debriefing scene on the NTSC version.  It's not due to the source of the video being PAL.  I do plan on syncing the Jedi tracks to the complete version, with all possible missing frames restored (NTSC is missing two frames from PAL, and PAL is missing a single frame from NTSC).


Yes, this is exactly why the NTSC audio goes out of sync when we cut from Degobah to the rebels gathering to talk about attacking the second death star and suddenly gets back into sync more or less a reel later. This plagues all GOUT based projects that use the PAL as video and audio projects synced to the NTSC version.

What do you mean by complete version? Is there really a "complete" version to sync it to?

BTW, this is an awesome project and totally out of left field! Thank you for doing this!

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Oh, and how are the commentary tracks? Are they interesting? I don't think I've ever heard them...

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Thanks schorman13, you and I are talking about the same thing.  Yes, the sync problem has nothing to do with PAL per se, it's just due to the frame differences in PAL vs NTSC GOUT.

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CatBus, I think that sync issue in Jedi is due to the fact that there are two frames missing from Jedi right before the Rebel debriefing scene on the NTSC version.  It's not due to the source of the video being PAL.  I do plan on syncing the Jedi tracks to the complete version, with all possible missing frames restored (NTSC is missing two frames from PAL, and PAL is missing a single frame from NTSC).


Yes, this is exactly why the NTSC audio goes out of sync when we cut from Degobah to the rebels gathering to talk about attacking the second death star and suddenly gets back into sync more or less a reel later. This plagues all GOUT based projects that use the PAL as video and audio projects synced to the NTSC version.

What do you mean by complete version? Is there really a "complete" version to sync it to?

BTW, this is an awesome project and totally out of left field! Thank you for doing this!

 

By complete, I mean all of the frames.  At one point, I checked DJ's V3 version and I remember being surprised that it had that one frame that was missing from the PAL disc.  I would have to double check that though.  Anyway, I plan to sync them to that version. 

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Huh, interesting.

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This is great work, schorman13 -- thanks!

I'm most interested in:

  1. Star Wars 1977 Dolby Stereo (digital): Japan CLV (SF098-1103)
  2. The Empire Strikes Back 1980 Dolby Stereo (digital): Japan CLV (SF098-1117)
  3. Return of the Jedi 1983 Dolby Stereo (digital): Japan CLV (SF098-1100), US CLV (1478-80)


Has anyone here made any progress toward GOUT-sync'ing these tracks? If so, please share and thanks!

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