I'm closer to Hollywood than San Jose. ;)
But I might have a chance to get up there early next year.
Where were you in '77?
TV's Frink said:
DuracellEnergizer said:
ray_afraid said:
joefavs said:
And also,
But let's not forget:
I don't care.
FTFY
ray_afraid said:
joefavs said:
And also,
:D Are you sure using ROTJ is a good idea? It always comes with the worst examples in the OT (bad special effects, pointless battle scenes, "muppets", bad or cartoon-like acting, plot holes, ...)
But, in any case, he says "Hee Ya", not "Whooo"! Guess what: western reference, and he's considered just like Solo in the movies, so it still makes sense. Also he's just survived the most dangerous mission in the galaxy and does not even look goofy like Poe does (that muppet on the other hand... :D)
The Original Trilogy’s Timeline Reconstruction: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Implied-starting-date-of-the-Empire-from-OT-dialogue/post/786201/#TopicPost786201
canofhumdingers said:
And never mind... I should've paid more attention tithe lists. Both the DC and Citywalk theaters are the laser projectors. NOT 70mm. :-/
There are two Air&Space museums in the DC area.
One is downtown in DC itself and still uses 15/70 projection.
The other one, the Udvar-Hazy center out in Chantilly VA near Dulles Airport, just recieved the laser upgrade earlier this year.
When slashfilm posted that list, they must've either neglected to include the downtown location in the list of 70mm theaters or it just hadn't been added yet as the list was "subject to change" (I'm guessing it was the latter). If you go to Imax's website you'll see it.
In any event, I didn't see it until it was too late to secure a ticket to the 7pm Thursday screening.
Sorry for the confusion.
John Doom said:
ROTJ... bad special effects
Really?
John Doom said:
he says "Hee Ya"
Nope.
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What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.
Ryan McAvoy said:
John Doom said:
ROTJ [...] bad special effects
Really?
Really:
https://youtu.be/taRp0pSUx5w?t=29 (hard to see here because of the resolution, but both on the bluray and the GOUT the composite is clearly shifted to green: looks fake)
https://youtu.be/taRp0pSUx5w?t=35 (can't find it GOUT, but Chewbacca's fur bleeds green because of the bad composite: looks fake)
http://geekleagueofamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/screenshot20110903at165.png (the blue-screen composite: looks fake)
And much of the original GOUT space battle. Just because they redid the composites better for the SE, doesn't mean they originally looked great. Compared to the earlier movies, they focused more on quantity than on quality. It doesn't necessarily look fake (especially because every image is "so dense"), but it's not up to the standards of the earlier movies.
Ryan McAvoy said:
John Doom said:
he says "Hee Ya"
Nope.
The Original Trilogy’s Timeline Reconstruction: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Implied-starting-date-of-the-Empire-from-OT-dialogue/post/786201/#TopicPost786201
Yeah, whatever other problems there are with ROTJ, Special Effects aren't one of them - I think ROTJ is the absolute pinacle of optical visual effects and may be the most realistic looking space battle of all time, including CG ones. And only a couple of shots have been re-comped for the SE - most of the space battle you see on the BD is the original compositing. And it looks 100% more real than any of the visual fx shown in the TFA trailers.
And those composites you pointed out actually look really good for the time, especially the Tatooine ones - I've seen much worse greenscreen compositing of people in modern blocbusters. The hangar matte is admittedly not great but that's definitely the exception.
Some of the effects are amazing :
but then you get the cut and paste repeat model shots, the obvious flip shots, and Wedge's X-wing is really badly integrated into the shot where he turns his ship to escape the reactor chamber.
The quality control on Jedi's effects was the poorest of the three.
Harmy said:
Yeah, whatever other problems there are with ROTJ, Special Effects aren't one of them - I think ROTJ is the absolute pinacle of optical visual effects and may be the most realistic looking space battle of all time, including CG ones.
Completely agree. Most of the model shots are damn convincing. Lots of depth and great lighting. There are modern blockbusters and TV shows with CG effects that aren't half as convincing as RoTJ.
There's always room for criticism. But if we're holding the OT to that standard, the composited ships in the battle of Hoth looks like the cardboard cutout pilot episode of South Park by comparison.
Harmy said:
And only a couple of shots have been re-comped for the SE - most of the space battle you see on the BD is the original compositing.
I meant with matte-lines removed, but you're right.
Harmy said:
And it looks 100% more real than any of the visual fx shown in the TFA trailers.
So true :D
Harmy said:
And those composites you pointed out actually look really good for the time, especially the Tatooine ones. The hangar matte is admittedly not great but that's definitely the exception.
I thought they could've at least tried to avoid using blue-screen for the first skiff's shots (the ones green-shifted) and try something else, but if you say it looked ok, touchè :)
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John Doom said:
Ryan McAvoy said:
John Doom said:
he says "Hee Ya"
Nope.
Exactly. I think you are confusing Lando with this guy...
https://youtu.be/PWgvGjAhvIw?t=1m41s
;-)
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It may be "Heeya" or whatever, but "Hee Ya" will never be "Hey Ya" :\
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Put "Hee Ya" into Google image search. Then put "Yee Ha" into Google image search. One will come up with pictures of cowboys and the other won't.
VIZ TOP TIPS! - PARENTS. Impress your children by showing them a floppy disk and telling them it’s a 3D model of a save icon.
Touchè: rather than learn English, I should spend more time on Urban Dictionary :D
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Fang Zei said:
canofhumdingers said:
And never mind... I should've paid more attention tithe lists. Both the DC and Citywalk theaters are the laser projectors. NOT 70mm. :-/
There are two Air&Space museums in the DC area.
One is downtown in DC itself and still uses 15/70 projection.
The other one, the Udvar-Hazy center out in Chantilly VA near Dulles Airport, just recieved the laser upgrade earlier this year.
When slashfilm posted that list, they must've either neglected to include the downtown location in the list of 70mm theaters or it just hadn't been added yet as the list was "subject to change" (I'm guessing it was the latter). If you go to Imax's website you'll see it.
In any event, I didn't see it until it was too late to secure a ticket to the 7pm Thursday screening.
Sorry for the confusion.
Bingowings said:
Some of the effects are amazing :
but then you get the cut and paste repeat model shots, the obvious flip shots, and Wedge's X-wing is really badly integrated into the shot where he turns his ship to escape the reactor chamber.
The quality control on Jedi's effects was the poorest of the three.
That Gif is a classic. :) Bingowings, are you aware that Fett's air-swim looks even worse in the 1983 original.
Jedi definitely contain a few of the most technically impressive optical effects in the classic trilogy but at the same time some of the worst. As a film I believe The Force Awakens will beat the crap out of the poor third entry, fake looking CGI or not. The only problem is that it's a sequel to Jedi.
We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions.
Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com
Yeah, I guess you guys got me there - it does indeed have some of the best but also some of the worst fx in the trilogy.
canofhumdingers said:
Fang Zei said:
canofhumdingers said:
And never mind... I should've paid more attention tithe lists. Both the DC and Citywalk theaters are the laser projectors. NOT 70mm. :-/
There are two Air&Space museums in the DC area.
One is downtown in DC itself and still uses 15/70 projection.
The other one, the Udvar-Hazy center out in Chantilly VA near Dulles Airport, just recieved the laser upgrade earlier this year.
When slashfilm posted that list, they must've either neglected to include the downtown location in the list of 70mm theaters or it just hadn't been added yet as the list was "subject to change" (I'm guessing it was the latter). If you go to Imax's website you'll see it.
In any event, I didn't see it until it was too late to secure a ticket to the 7pm Thursday screening.
Sorry for the confusion.
No kidding. I knew there were two museum locations, but didn't realize the one on the mall ALSO had an IMAX theater AND that it was still 70mm! It's been several years since I've been there... Awesome! I've already started plotting logistics of where to go and how to get there and this just gave me another option!
That's something else I should point out.
There are at least several dozen 15/70 theaters in the US. Interstellar played at more than 30 of them. Disney is probably just being careful about where they show TFA in that format because like I said it's so expensive to make the prints. Conveniently, several theaters already have the new laser system and I can only assume the movie will be playing at all of those locations because it costs next to nothing to make a dcp. Unfortunately, those laser locations will only be showing it in 3D as of right now.
Oh, and here in the DC area we actually have three full-sized Imax theaters. Yup, we're spoiled like that. The one at Air&Space DC opened in '76. I remember my Mom taking me there to see Blue Planet and To Fly in the early 90's when I was just a kid. The Museum of Natural History, directly across the mall, also got an Imax theater in the late 90's. Both theaters have been 3D-capable for years now. Udvar-Hazy opened in 2003 and was always 2D-only for some reason until the laser upgrade this year. The Smithsonian owns and operates all three theaters. Dark Knight Rises was the only time a movie opened at all three locations if I'm not mistaken.
...do we want to just schedule a trip to the Air & Space? All DC-area OTers?
not opening night, but a little later?
I'd be down for that. It would be cool to actually meet some of you people in person after all these years. The tickets are selling out fast (just sayin') but someone send me a PM if you want to organize something.
DuracellEnergizer said:
TV's Frink said:
DuracellEnergizer said:
ray_afraid said:
joefavs said:
And also,
But let's not forget:
I care.
WRONG PICTURE
FTFY
Criticizing Poe Dameron's "whoooo!" is one of the silliest things I've read. Why, because he's not a "cowboy" character? How do you know that, out of context? Don't you think that including that clip is the trailer's way of telling us that he is a "cowboy" character?
Oscar Isaac can certainly pull it off. His inevitably great performance is one of the many things I'm looking forward to.
I wish I could see this on 2D 15/70. There's actually a couple within range of me but neither is playing TFA in that format. I'll probably still make the trip to IMAX but it's a shame it'll be digital. I guess Interstellar was the last film I'll ever see projected 15/70.
Bingowings said:
Some of the effects are amazing :
Many if not all movies that has action have issues like that though I can't think of too many that are that blatant
The worst part is the way it repeats. It's like there was no editor on the show.
