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Star Wars Episode IX (was) to be directed by Colin Trevorrow - DUEL OF THE FATES RIP — Page 14

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RoboCop 2 was pretty good, sue me. Book of Henry on the other hand… yikes

Use the Force, Joh Yowza.

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I haven’t seen either of them, but I’m inclined to judge things on their own merits, not by association. Some creative people can create both brilliant and terrible works (or, to put it in terms of general opinion, well- and poorly-received ones). Tom Hooper made both Les Misérables and Cats. Largely the same team made the first season of Game of Thrones as the last. For that matter, both George Lucas and J.J. Abrams made Star Wars movies that were generally loved and generally panned.

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RoccondilRinon said:

I haven’t seen either of them, but I’m inclined to judge things on their own merits, not by association. Some creative people can create both brilliant and terrible works (or, to put it in terms of general opinion, well- and poorly-received ones). Tom Hooper made both Les Misérables and Cats. Largely the same team made the first season of Game of Thrones as the last. For that matter, both George Lucas and J.J. Abrams made Star Wars movies that were generally loved and generally panned.

Exactly. I have enjoyed most movies by Alfonso Cuarón, but one particular movie of his did nothing for me, Children of Men. Does that mean I should invalidate his entire filmography because of that one movie I didn’t like? Hell, no.

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SparkySywer said:

Hey, man… the Book of Henry was awful, but DotF was still better than TRoS.

Let’s just say Treverrow said stuff that made me doubt his competence with the franchise.

From a Slashfilm interview in 2018:

“It’s a foundational myth. It’s a noble ghost story. Where a character lives on after death in order to guide a hero to find their strength and defeat ultimate evil. And structurally, I can’t…but you’re gonna print this, unfortunately. I’m saying this now. But the way that I look at movies, I do see Avatar and Titanic and Jurassic World [as] very similar movies. Henry was Obi-Wan Kenobi. And he died in the middle. And he left a set of instructions on how to take out the Death Star where Darth Vader was holding a Princess captive. And at the very end, when he had the target in his sights, he had to remember his training. Guided by this ghostly voice. And then Han Solo comes in with the Rube Goldberg machine and gives him the moment. And ultimately the Princess saves herself.”

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Sounds more like he’s a moron who’s bad at interviews and trying to sound profound than someone who has a catastrophic misunderstanding of Star Wars.

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I guess we will never know.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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BedeHistory731 said:

SparkySywer said:

Hey, man… the Book of Henry was awful, but DotF was still better than TRoS.

Let’s just say Treverrow said stuff that made me doubt his competence with the franchise.

From a Slashfilm interview in 2018:

“It’s a foundational myth. It’s a noble ghost story. Where a character lives on after death in order to guide a hero to find their strength and defeat ultimate evil. And structurally, I can’t…but you’re gonna print this, unfortunately. I’m saying this now. But the way that I look at movies, I do see Avatar and Titanic and Jurassic World [as] very similar movies. Henry was Obi-Wan Kenobi. And he died in the middle. And he left a set of instructions on how to take out the Death Star where Darth Vader was holding a Princess captive. And at the very end, when he had the target in his sights, he had to remember his training. Guided by this ghostly voice. And then Han Solo comes in with the Rube Goldberg machine and gives him the moment. And ultimately the Princess saves herself.”

Oh good lord. No wonder he got fired. On another note having read DOTF I think it’s pretty weak. Not a big fan of the force ghosts, especially Luke, having so much action. It’s very apparent Trevorrow wasn’t happy with Luke being killed off.

Use the Force, Joh Yowza.

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Yeah, I thought about it, but it just complicates the design for the Author flap. Derek Connely is still attributed in the interior itself.

I also based the specific green color off your trailer and included a QR code in the book to your trsiler! (I hope thats okay)

TPM ROTJ ESB TFA TLJ TROS ROTS ANH SOLO RO ATOC
TFA:S https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Force-Awakens-Starlight-Released/id/54912
TLJ:R https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Last-Jedi-Rekindled-Released-V3-UPDATE/id/61939
TROS:A https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Rise-of-Skywalker-Ascendant-WIP/id/71835/page/1

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I think the Resistance attacking the capitol would’ve aged poorly after the Capitol Riots on January 6th here in the US.

Nah, that would’ve been hilarious.

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Well, those people call themselves rebels but are exactly the kind of sad, reactionary edgelords that the First Order (and Kylo in particular) represent in episodes VII and VIII. The irony would have been delicious.

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I just wish Trevorrow incorporated the Sun Crusher into his script. Either that or the Galaxy Gun. 😉

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dgraham414 said:

I made a cover for a potential Duel of the Fates book

I might get it printed in the future. What do you think?

I updated my cover once I found the SFX art regarding DOTF and other unfinished Star Wars projects.

Which do you like better?

TPM ROTJ ESB TFA TLJ TROS ROTS ANH SOLO RO ATOC
TFA:S https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Force-Awakens-Starlight-Released/id/54912
TLJ:R https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Last-Jedi-Rekindled-Released-V3-UPDATE/id/61939
TROS:A https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Rise-of-Skywalker-Ascendant-WIP/id/71835/page/1

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I personally prefer the first design. Using a concept sketch seems more appropriate than a mock-up poster for a script book, and I’m not a huge fan of the rip-off of Luke’s ROTJ costume they put Rey in. Where did you find the poster though?

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dgraham414 said:

Which do you like better?

Tough one. I like them both. I think I may prefer the second, because the first requires you to see both sides of the cover to appreciate the art properly.

“Remember, the Force will be with you. Always.”

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Cracking poster and also both the choices for a book cover too, dgraham414.

My personal preference was for the top book cover image - though both are great 👍
 

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dgraham414 said:

I made a cover for a potential Duel of the Fates book

I might get it printed in the future. What do you think?

This is beautiful! It has the look and quality of an official release.

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Oh what could have been! It is only DOTF concept art, and nearly all of the concept art for Star Wars looks amazing, but these videos really highlight the art and possible DOTF story and potential:

Would Duel of the Fates have been better than The Rise of Skywalker? | Script & Concept Art Leak by Hello Greedo

Colin Trevorrow’s Duel of the Fates Concept Art | Full Breakdown by ATAT Chat

STAR WARS: DUEL OF THE FATES - More Awesome Leaked Concept Art to Pine Over by Star Wars Time. ‘Part 2’ of the concept art leaks?
 

The fan made DOTF comic by Andrew Winegarner also looks awesome:

http://awinegarner.squarespace.com/duel-of-the-fates

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Star Wars: Colin Trevorrow Reacts to Fan Reception of Scrapped Duel of the Fates Script at Comicbook.com
 

“Honestly, if any director tells you that they don’t care what the audience thinks, or even people who watch movies and write about them for a living, then I’m not sure if they’re being fully honest with themselves,” Trevorrow told The Hollywood Reporter. “I do make these movies for audiences, but I also make them for people who think about film all the time and watch movies the way that I do. So yeah, absolutely. Any time you do something that’s received well, it’s going to encourage you and hopefully assure you that not only was there a reason why you started doing this in the first place, but your imposter syndrome is only partially real and you’re not a complete fraud. (Laughs.) And I think we all have those moments.”
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“It was complicated. But, honestly, I mean, since we’re talking now in 2022, I can say honestly I’m very grateful to [Lucasfilm president] Kathy [Kennedy] for recognizing that she and I were never going to make a movie that we were both proud of together,” Trevorrow said. “And she’s been doing this for so long and she cares about me and I care about her and her family. And [producer] Frank [Marshall] and I are partners still. I’m a part of this group of incredible filmmakers, so it was a complicated moment, but now, having been able to do this and really feeling like this is what … I’m glad I did this. I’m deeply, deeply satisfied for having done this. I appreciate that she had the wisdom to see something that, honestly, I’m not sure I could’ve seen because I was so dialed in to the story I wanted to tell.”
 

Respect to the Colin Trevorrow for saying that “It was complicated. But, honestly, I mean, since we’re talking now in 2022, I can say honestly I’m very grateful to [Lucasfilm president] Kathy [Kennedy] for recognizing that she and I were never going to make a movie that we were both proud of together”.

It is disconcerting the amount of times there have been massive changes to Star Wars content over the past 7-8 years being planned or delivered by writer or director: Rogue One, Solo, TROS, Kenobi, Rangers Of The New Republic, the GOT guys canceled project, and Rogue Squadron being pushed back, are just the releases I can think of right now.

Though maybe this also happens in most other big franchises, like Trek, Aliens, Terminator, or MCU and so on?

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