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Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Finished!) — Page 40

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RogueLeader said:

The only idea I can think of to help support the ‘mask’ approach would be to change his appearance anytime Palpatine is disguised as Darth Sidious before the transformation. So when we see him with Maul on Coruscant in TPM, or with Dooku in AOTC, you could either desaturate his skin to be similar to his deformed look, or use deepfake technology to replace his regular face with the deformed face. It would be harder to implement this with hologram appearance (like his conversation with Grievous in ROTS or with Nute Gunray in TPM. Maybe you could obscure his entire face in darkness, or do something similar to what Ady did for ESB:R), but this idea could help make it clearer that Palpatine has always looked like that, but has just hid his true form with his ‘unlimited power’. But for LOE, I think it works fine and is still better than the theatrical, like Dom said. Might be something to consider in future edits though.

Yeah that would be a good solution, if feasible (unlikely, unfortunately).

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I’d agree, but only for the hologram in Ep3, because of AOTC’s implication that he’s starting to deteriorate. It must have been somewhere between 2 and 3 that he started masking himself. At least if you go by that.

PM me for links to my edits; apparently, some feel shy about this.

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Hal 9000 said:

I’d agree, but only for the hologram in Ep3, because of AOTC’s implication that he’s starting to deteriorate. It must have been somewhere between 2 and 3 that he started masking himself. At least if you go by that.

I don’t think AOTC’s implication that he’s starting to deteriorate is that strong or obvious. He just looks like a normal old man for the most part. Maybe a little more palid than he does in Episode 3 but not significantly so.

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The “mask” concept is not unprecedented in terms of canon material. I’m not sure about NEU’s stance on the topic, but the Revenge of the Sith novel features the following after Anakin disposes of Windu.

“And so the mask becomes the man,” he sighed with a hint of philosophical melancholy. “I shall miss the face of Palpatine, I think; but for our purpose, the face of Sidious will serve. Yes, it will serve.”

However, in the novelization, this goes hand in hand with the concept of being deformed by his own lightning reflected back at him.

And the circuit completed itself: the lightning reflected back to its source. Palpatine staggered, snarling, but the blistering energy that poured from his hands only intensified. He fed the power with his pain.

The yellow glare from Palpatine’s eyes spread outward through his flesh. His skin flowed like oil, as though the muscle beneath was burning away, as though even the bones of his skull were softening, were bending and bulging, deforming from the heat and pressure of his electric hatred.

In text, it does not come off as too “out there” (in my opinion) but in the film, it is not conveyed as well. This just supports HAL’s point that it all could have been portrayed better had the film actually set out to do so, rather than leaving it to supplementary material to go back in and patch up. With the available material in terms of footage, not much can be done.

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Well in the old EU, the Darth Plagueis novel basically laid out Palpatine’s whole life story, which didn’t leave much room for ambiguity. When they were originally designing the make up for the Emperor in ROTJ, the goal was to make him look not old, but “ancient.” I always liked the idea that we weren’t ever really sure where Palpatine came from or how long he’s been around. The “mask” concept allows for that ambiguity to remain.

It is a somewhat intellectual explanation, granted, but also I tend to think if you watched the saga in release order that the sudden reveal, rather than the deformation, would make more sense. At least I remember when I was a kid I always thought that what we saw in ROTJ was his real face, and when he showed up in the prequels he was just hiding it.