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Star Wars Deleted Scenes - Reincorporated? — Page 10

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Here is another test scene with Darth Vader, there was a huge sequence with 4-5 frames of dirt covering 1/3 frame, and it seems to skip around the 26 second mark, along with some ghosting on the right hand side:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k3uLh013FnJ9mTbG9WR

Again, we don't have a timetable, or release schedule for any of these clips, they are just tests.

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This scene is worth a watch just for the cornucopia of droids glimpsed in the last few seconds. An R2 with a transparent dome, what appear to be mouse droids shackled together like train carriages, and a gonk droid that bravely blocks Darth Vader's way.

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There are a lot of interesting things in the deleted scenes. But you have to watch all the way through, and pay attention to the lesser details, and not just the main characters.

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I don't know where else to put this but I feel it is relevant.

Over at iCollector, there is an original ADR session for "Rat Face," "Han Solo," and "Luke Skywalker" for sale. It is $500 and it ends tomorrow, but seeing as how Rat Face is hardly seen much less heard, it would be interesting to hear what is on this tape. 

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Thanks team_negative1 for your hard work.

What I would love to see would be a seamless branching blu-ray(s) of Harmy's Despecialized/team_negative1 Gout with some creative liberties taken to add the missing score, extend the Flew with your father scene, and restore the original Jabba the Hutt Scene, even if it is not cannon. Watching a proper extended cut of the original Star Wars is a fanboys daydream.

My 2 cents

Thanks again

My fan edit ideas
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Return-of-the-Sith-Revenge-of-the-Jedi-by-marduk666/id/17356

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Hooterdear said:

I don't know where else to put this but I feel it is relevant.

Over at iCollector, there is an original ADR session for "Rat Face," "Han Solo," and "Luke Skywalker" for sale. It is $500 and it ends tomorrow, but seeing as how Rat Face is hardly seen much less heard, it would be interesting to hear what is on this tape. 

 This is a very substantial find and should not go neglected!  This could be extremely useful for fan editors especially!

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Hooterdear said:

I don't know where else to put this but I feel it is relevant.

Over at iCollector, there is an original ADR session for "Rat Face," "Han Solo," and "Luke Skywalker" for sale. It is $500 and it ends tomorrow, but seeing as how Rat Face is hardly seen much less heard, it would be interesting to hear what is on this tape. 

 I'll ask the question - because google yields nothing - who or what is Rat Face?

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There is no demand for an official release, because the Bluray was the official release. If you mean a cleaned up official release, we would argue, again, there is no demand for them, because what difference would it really make. They are deleted scenes.

Yes, we hope someday, someone will incorporate them back into the movie.

That being said, the tests continue. Here is part 3 of the Luke and Biggs scene, there is still more work to be done on these, as the right hand sides still has a lot of lines:

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I am curious about yours or your teams stance on the matter and whilst I totally accept deleted scenes are just that not part of the film in most or many cases are cut for very good reasons and I would go as far to say in most cases should remain cut.

Can I ask which of or what ones that are available including trailer footage and including alternative footage do you consider actually being of serious worth to the OT films?

I can only personally think of very small amount of the footage that is available being of serious worth for making proper "Good" extended editions...and it probably does not even reach double figures for those real good shots So it's a very short extension to each film kind of. There is a lot with very little substance that would not really improve the film in any great way or difficult to incorporate.

But I guess if it's available and people can get creative with new material that is good but I am talking more about what is the best and most important footage for actually using as an enhancement to what is already there without altering (unless it is FX) that deleted footage and incorporating it back in. And I think that is what is in reality a small number of shots of real worth or even snippets.


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Will these scenes be available individually once cleaned up, or only as part of a fan edit of the movies?

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So is this dead? I would love to use the finished Luke and Treadwell scene for my edit of rogue one I am planning

“You can’t polish a turd. But you can shape it to look like candy.”

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What I really want restored is the scene of Luke and Biggs at the Tosche Station.

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The fact that this never caught on as a project here has got to be one of the more disappointing things about this site in the last 5 or so years. The fact that we have so many people tripping over themselves to restore the same three films over and over again is what makes this site great, but couldn’t we divert even a little bit of that man power towards restoring the deleted scenes?

It’s a shame because it seemed like there was a solution

althor1138 said:

3PO Speeder

Blue Milk

Tosche

Luke Biggs

Luke Leia Hoth

PW=OT

Here’s the changes to the script that I made.  I’m only posting the parameter variables as the rest of the script shouldn’t be messed with except to trim the clip to whatever frames you want to process. Obviously if you want a different resolution for the end product you’ll have to change it from 720x576 to whatever you want.

film restoration script by videoFred.

version with frame interpolation

modified 30 august 2010

added removedirtMC() as suggested by John Meyer

cleaning, degraining, resizing, stabilizing, sharpening, auto-levels and auto-white balance.

#=============================================================================================

film=“PATH TO FILM” # source clip, please specify the full path here

#PARAMETERS
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result=“results4” # specify the wanted output here

trim_begin=0  play_speed=24  #trim frames and play speed (PAL: 16.6666 or 18.75)

numerator= 24  #numerator for the interpolator (final frame rate)
denumerator= 1 #denumerator  example: 60000/1001= 59.94fps

#COLOR AND LEVELS PARAMATERS
#----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
saturation=1.2   #for all outputs

gamma= 1.1 # for all outputs

blue= -0  red= -0  #manual color adjustment, when returning result3 or result4. Values can be positive or negative

black_level=0  white_level=255 output_black=0  output_white=255 # manual levels, when returning result4

#SIZE, CROP AND BORDERS PARAMETERS
#----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CLeft=0  CTop=0  CRight=0  CBottom=0  #crop values after Depan and before final resizing

W=720  H=576  #final size after cropping

bord_left=0  bord_top=0  bord_right=0  bord_bot=0  #720p= borders 150

#STABILISING PARAMETERS
#----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
maxstabH=0
maxstabV=0 #maximum values for the stabiliser (in pixels) 20 is a good start value

est_left=40   est_top=40  est_right=40  est_bottom=40  est_cont=1.4  #crop and contast values for special Estimate clip

#CLEANING PARAMETERS
#--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

dirt_blur= 0.1 # some blur before cleaning to avoid pixel artifacts
dirt_strength=80 # set this lower for clean films.

#DENOISING PARAMETERS
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denoising_strength= 2000  #denoising level of second denoiser: MVDegrainMulti()
denoising_frames= 3  #number of frames for averaging (forwards and backwards) 3 is a good start value
block_size= 16  #block size of MVDegrainMulti()
block_size_v= 16
block_over= 8  #block overlapping of MVDegrainMulti()

FOUR STEP SHARPENING PARAMETERS

#--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

USM_sharp_ness1= 60   USM_radi_us1= 3  #first sharpening (UnsharpMask) after cleaning with removedirtMC()

USM_sharp_ness2= 30    USM_radi_us2=2   #second harpening (UnsharpMask) after cleaning with removedirtMC()

USM_sharp_ness3= 20    USM_radi_us3=1   #third sharpening (UnsharpMask) after degraining with MVDegrainMulti()

last_sharp= 0.4 #final sharpening step after interpolation

last_blur= 0.2 #this smooths out the heavy sharpening effects

#AUTO LEVELS PARAMETER
#--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
X=2   # X is a special parameter for reducing the autolevels effect on the whites
X2=2  # X2 is a special parameter for reducing the autolevels effect on the blacks

END VARIABLES, BEGIN SCRIPT

#=================================================================================================================================

But then nothing came of it.

As with everything if you want something done right you have to do it yourself. So I’d love to be able to just do it myself and not have to worry about others, but the only solution I see is avisynth based and I don’t have a PC. So, if there’s a way to clean up the scenes with a Mac, let me know, please. If not, GET ON IT GUYS I know you can do it!

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I don’t understand that either. You’d think by now the OT deleted scenes would have been cleaned up; some minor work was even done to some incomplete PT deleted scenes by ADM years ago. I realise the PT footage is easier to work with but it’s still quite baffling.

I’d love to just do it myself if not for life getting in the way.

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I would like to be a part of this team to clean up anything related to the deleted scenes. I would love to see these scenes reincorporated into the film. Yes, it slows down the pacing of the film, and most of them are unnecessary, but, in a way, they are part of that universe. Just look at Biggs with his cape. I seem to remember a certain Director wearing one in another Star Wars film recently released.

I had the privilege of meeting Garrick Hagon, I took a picture with him and got his autograph, he’s a really nice guy, and I asked him questions about those deleted scenes. He basically said the same things, like he did in that one documentary. I have a photo with him, if anyone doesn’t believe me. I also met Anthony Forrest, aka Fixer, he had some stories too. I got a picture with him as well.

I can’t wait to see what deleted scenes there are for Rogue One, of course, we won’t see all of them, that’s for sure.

I can do the voices of C-3PO, Old Ben Kenobi, the Emperor, and Yoda.

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There is still work going on in the deleted scenes, as mentioned above in the other projects.
The deleted scenes are just that, deleted, and not as important as the main films.

I’ve still got some access to the work on the deleted scenes, but haven’t bothered to post them,
since they’re not a priority.

The main point of this site is to restore the Original Trilogy, and since it hasn’t been done yet,
that’s the priority. As far as diverting people to it, good luck, as many people claim they want
to help, but how many actually end up doing it. The main work is being done by a few people, and
their priority right now is Star Wars 4k, and ESB.

The point is if you want these, you will have to work on them yourselves.
There are people at The Star Wars Trilogy Forums, that have set up a way
to get involved, tools, tutorials, and more, if people want to sign up.

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team_negative1 said:

Here is another test scene with Darth Vader, there was a huge sequence with 4-5 frames of dirt covering 1/3 frame, and it seems to skip around the 26 second mark, along with some ghosting on the right hand side:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k3uLh013FnJ9mTbG9WR

Again, we don’t have a timetable, or release schedule for any of these clips, they are just tests.

Team Negative1

A super clean version of this would be really cool to insert into a Rogue One edit. 😃

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ForceGhostRecon said:

A super clean version of this would be really cool to insert into a Rogue One edit. 😃

The source files still exist, but no further work was done on them.

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team_negative1 said:

Here is a continuation of the deleted scene with Luke and Biggs talking:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k4gCyqlBWCs1n1bhrmZ

Team Negative1

Hi there hope all is well. Is it Posssible to get hold of this Footage as Im also doing a clean up job only of the Deleted scense
My work can be found on this page…
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-Tosche-station-Restored/id/60368/page/1

The footage im using was from the Bluray and its not as sharp as iv seen here by yours…
I dont want to be wasting my time on footage if there is better quality out there like yours…
if you can share me this footage it would be awesome, im doing this totally for the fans thankyou…

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