Star Wars 1997 DTS CD-ROMs (Released) — Page 2

SilverWook said:

The Laserdisc is pretty good, coming at nearly the end of the format. Why it was a Japan only release I have no idea. Not like that stopped LD retailers from importing it

I don't have one of those pesky demodulators for Dolby Digital, so have only ever heard the PCM stereo track.

For DTS:

On the consumer level, DTS is the oft-used shorthand for the DTS Coherent Acoustics codec, transportable through S/PDIF and used on DVDs and Laserdiscs. This system is the consumer version of the DTS standard, using a similar codec without needing separate DTS CD-ROM media. Both music and movie DVDs allow delivery of DTS audio tracks, but DTS was not part of the original DVD specification (1997), so early DVD players did not recognize DTS audio tracks at all. The DVD specification was revised to allow optional inclusion of DTS audio tracks. The DVD title must carry one or more primary audio tracks in AC-3 or LPCM format (in Europe, MPEG-1 Layer 2 is also an allowed primary track format). The DTS audio track, if present, can be selected by the user. Modern DVD players can now decode DTS natively with no problem, or pass it through to an external decoder. Nearly all standalone receivers and many integrated ("home theater in a box") DVD player/receivers manufactured today can decode DTS.

A small number of Laserdiscs carry DTS soundtracks. The NTSC Laserdisc format allows for either analog audio only or both analog and digital audio tracks. Laserdiscs encoded with DTS sound replace the LPCM digital audio track with the DTS soundtrack. This soundtrack is output via digital coaxial or optical audio outputs and requires an external decoder to process the bitstream. Consumers without a DTS decoder are only able to listen to the analog audio tracks on the disc.

For PC playback, many software players support the decoding of DTS. The VideoLAN project has created a decoding module for DTS called libdca (formerly libdts), which is the first open source implementation of DTS.^[1]

Sony's PlayStation 3 and Microsoft's Xbox 360 are capable of DTS decoding and output via TOSLINK or HDMI as LPCM. However, HDMI output on the Xbox 360 is only found on the "Elite" model and newer models available since mid-2007, with the release of the Falcon chipset. Also, the Xbox 360 cannot decode DTS from DTS Audio CDs. PlayStation 3 consoles can bitstream DTS over HDMI. The newer "slim" models are able to bitstream DTS-HD MA as well.

I've got the TPM laserdisc and in the right environment it is quite impressive for it's day.  Having the Cinema DTS tracks for an LD theatrical transfer would make it even better...I think.

:)

borisanddoris wrote: Heck, I'd even like to see a DE-Specialized prequel trilogy, especially the Episode I.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Phantom-Menace-Theatrical-Version-NTSC-DVD-ADYWAN-NOW-AVAILABLE/topic/10615/

captainsolo said:

They did all throughout the 90's/00's. Now you can't ever find out what a theater has, let alone what the movie features. Wish there was an easy way to do so nowadays.

No kidding, I used to frequent a theater in the 90s with all three (DD, DTS, SDDS) and the sound was mind blowing.  Every movie has the appropriate sound teaser at the front (sometimes 2) and the poster outside the door.

Seeing Heat in SDDS was the film that opened my ears to how amazing cinema could sound.  I also remember seeing Men in Black and The Fifth Element there, good times!

borisanddoris said:

Heck, I'd even like to see a DE-Specialized prequel trilogy, especially the Episode I.  Having three audio options could be fun for comparing too: AC3 LD, DTS theatrical, and DTS-MA 6.1 from the Blu-ray.

If it is a theatrical reconstruction, then yeah, this could be a good project plan.  I guess I'll have to re-read the specs on Harmy's work.....

SilverWook said:

The owner of those discs, (SW and ROTJ) does not want to risk loaning them out again. (They were returned scratched up the last time.)

They are easily copied, and arrangements are being made to do so.

I was just wondering about the status of this project....it's been a bit quiet.  Hopefully, things are still moving forward.

:)  :) 

^ If you're comfortable with sendspace then you can split the disc using RAR: http://www.rarlab.com/ then upload the two parts which are under the limit.

Other services have higher limits: http://uppit.com (500mb), http://www.yousendit.com/ (?), http://www.4shared.com/ (?), http://www.dropbox.com/ (?), http://www.mediafire.com/ (?)

SilverWook said:

Okay, I now have copies of the discs. I'm willing to try uploading them, but sendspace has a 300 meg limit it seems.

If you've got ISO's of the discs.....uppit is what I suggest.  I used it to share my ISO's with folks.

:)

borisanddoris said:

Wait, we have the entire OT?

Either way, giddieup!!!

I believe it's just the S.E. ANH & ROTJ sets.  We're missing the AOTC & ESB S.E. DTS sets at this point. 

With some patience & probably some shit luck they'll show up someday......LOL

Glad to have what we've got so far....

:)

I second the giddieup!!!!

:)

SilverWook said:

Uppit up and died in the last forty minutes of an eight hour upload, so I think snail mail would be easier on my sanity at this point.

You have a pm.........................  :)

Another ball can get rolling.................  :) 

Thanks SilverWook!!!!  You Rock!!!!

:)

SilverWook said:

No problem. It will be interesting to find out if they are different than the Blu Ray mixes.

Considering these are from the 1997 S.E. I would say that at least there aren't the audio changes that came with later versions.....including the .....NOOOooooooooooo...

;)