Star Wars 1997 DTS CD-ROMs (Released) — Page 5

Thanks :-) I would greatly appreciate it if someone could sync the ANH SE audio to the Reivax version, I was going to burn it but it only has French in it so it would be cool to add the DTS audio to it and burn to DVD9.

I thought the Reivex had both French and English Dolby 2.0 on it.......

Well, the version I have doesn't.

All,

Sorry for not chiming in earlier.

I do have the DTS audio for the 97SE of ANH, but honestly, have not had the time to work on it.  Work has gotten extraordinarily busy and I may not get a chance for at least a week.  I'll do my best to get cracking on ripping it.

I also had to do a fresh install of my OS, and I'm still piecing my apps back together.  

Stay tuned...

Harmy said:

Well, the version I have doesn't.

So what version is it that you have? Russ is correct about it having an alternate english audio track.

I actually have both ANH and Empire SE with the aspect ratio corrected, converted to NTSC sitting on my HD waiting to get a good audio track synced up to them - a combination of all broadcast sources out there was done in order to get rid of all encoding errors and to restore all the missing frames between versions. If there's interest and someone is willing to help me out with getting the theatrical mixes to sync up with my work I can upload these if there's interest, I have unfortunately not the time to work on this myself at the moment as I'm very busy with other things. Let me know if you're able to help out with this.

I don't know which version it is. I downloaded the Reivax version, which by all appearances picture-wise is the Reivax version but it only has French audio.

I'd definitely be very interested in those DVDs msycamore, especially then if they were 23.976 as opposed to 29.976 fps and if they had the DTS audio synced to them. Which releases did you use for the main bulk of the video?

Harmy said:

I don't know which version it is. I downloaded the Reivax version, which by all appearances picture-wise is the Reivax version but it only has French audio.

Weird...

Harmy said:

I'd definitely be very interested in those DVDs msycamore, especially then if they were 23.976 as opposed to 29.976 fps and if they had the DTS audio synced to them. Which releases did you use for the main bulk of the video?

The main bulk is the "TB-broadcasts", I actually did the ANH way back by using the "Reivax" but later found out that the TB has a slight edge on it. Both are missing frames at different points but it was fixed by using Gkar and Flunk, the same goes for ESB. 

Many prefer "Flunk" for its sharpness, slightly better detail and more open image, but it was unfortunately messed with, a contrast boost was done on it in an attempt to make it look better. As many of you know, the first half of the '97 video transfer is a disaster in terms of gamma/contrast and pink/blue hues, but around the time in or when we leave Mos Eisley that problem was essentially gone, (the blue reappears sometimes in the Death Star scenes though) so the contrast boost of the Flunk transfer makes damage to the later half of the film. The color conversion error also makes it a lesser choice IMO.

I would like to get these out there as I'm sure some people would appreciate them, it's just that I'm not an audio guy and I have my hands full of other things at the moment. :( Hopefully someone will be able to help out with the audio, I also have the '97 LD trailers and extras if there is desire for such things. I didn't do Jedi though as I'm not a big fan of it. Maybe someone else have.

What is needed is a ¨standard¨ for the SE in the same way that we now see the GOUT as a standard for the OT. That way ALL future projects could sync to that standards video and audio or AviSynth scripts could be written to convert existing transfers to that standard in the way that Darth Mallwalker has done with some earlier OT releases.

This could be LD, VHS or HD broadcasts but I believe that the only ¨true" theatrical SE source we have are these DTS tracks which would be perfect as an SE standard.

It would be interesting to see/hear how close to synchronisation the DTS are with the work done by msycamore earlier in the thread.

Of course, anything like setting an SE standard would need a new thread of which these DTS tracks should play a massive part. Imagine being able to have different languages or subtitles synced together or the audio for the hard of hearing tracks all mixed to the same source......

Due to the combination of sources, ANH is complete but ESB is 1 frame short. Don't know about Jedi or how the LD's compare. Maybe I should upload the avi files and someone can take a shot at the audio syncing.

That sounds like the start of a plan to me....

I too would like to see a definitive, hi-def edition of the 1997 movies.  They did get a theatrical release, but they too have pretty much disappeared...

I have just come home from a week sailing up and down fjords and I really expected this thread to have progressed somewhat.

In short, is there a use/need/desire/interest/point in taking the issue of forming a 97 SE "standard" to a thread of it's own/PM's/email??

I think there is but I am only an "ideas" person without the equipment, skills, time, talent, patience to make it a reality.

As flawed as it is, we already have an OT "standard" (GOUT) We also have two different SE "standards" with the 2004 DVD's (George's 04 Special Edition Trilogy) and the 2011 Blu-Rays (George's 11 Special Edition Trilogy).

My "idea" for the 97SE "standard" that all future SE video and audio could sync to - following current naming protocols - is named the G97SET or GSET  (George's 97 Special Edition Trilogy or George's Special Edition Trilogy).

Any future discussions on this should be outside this thread although, as I have stated previously, these DTS CD-ROMs should play an important part in any discussions that may take place.

Moving along........

msycamore said:

Due to the combination of sources, ANH is complete but ESB is 1 frame short. Don't know about Jedi or how the LD's compare. Maybe I should upload the avi files and someone can take a shot at the audio syncing.

we could give it a shot..

anyways, myscamore clear out some pm's and let

me know.... something to tell you.

later

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The lossless avi files are around 20GB each and I don't think I'm capable uploading such huge files at the moment. I could of course encode them to DVD ready m2v-files taking the audio bitrate into account. As I mentioned, ANH is complete, and is perfectly synced up frame wise to the NTSC 2004 DVD version, maybe upload it with that horrible re-mix? at least then there's an video source to sync to...

Why not encode a simple low bitrate avi or mp4, which could serve as a timing reference. DVD streams are problematic and this is all that would be needed to set a timing standard.

Harmy said:

Why not encode a simple low bitrate avi or mp4, which could serve as a timing reference. DVD streams are problematic and this is all that would be needed to set a timing standard.

Sure, I can do that. But, I often see the lament over not having a decent looking version of the '97SE, so I figured I could as well upload the finished encode when I'm at it, so that people can remux it with whatever they want. The timing reference is the NTSC 2004 transfer, so whatever is synced to that will match my file as well.

Sorry for being off topic, I can start another thread if there's need for it.